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snerkler
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 Posted - 2009/09/11 : 10:27:00
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i hate it when people just go to raves to do drugs i always tell them ogh your a raver? and they say yeah i always pop extacy im like kmon man dont u just wanna go for the music. anyway thats what makes me mad so what do u guys think i mean drugs at a rave or music at a rave??
I can honestly say I was always stone cold sober when I went raving, even during the early to mid 90's at the height of the extacy saga.
To me music is my drug, I don't need anything else. I still was dancing at 7am, when al my mates were on a come down. I'm not against exstacy if people want to take it for the right reason, to enhance the music, but don't just go to raves so you can take it. Who wants those people in the scene, certainly not me. I would class those people as drugies, rather than party go-ers.
On saying that, at least people taking E are nice when they're on it, unlike coke heads who are just arrogant nobs that think they're the bees knees, when everyone else around them just thinks they're cocks and can't stand em.
And that's my rant ;-)
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 Posted - 2009/09/11 : 15:25:41
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Originally posted by ozmium:
so what do u guys think i mean drugs at a rave or music at a rave??
Music at a rave is a given as otherwise it wouldn't be a rave. Drugs at a rave are all good too. I would much rather rave it up with a load of people mashed off their faces than a load of high and mighty chin strokers who think they are "more rave" than the next person because they always go sober. Just go to the party and enjoy yourself in whatever way you see fit without being a c*nt to people, that's what a rave is all about.
It does make me laugh how people assume that anyone on drugs isn't into the music too. Jokes. Loads of the people who make the music you love are either doing drugs now or have done them at some point heh.
Hell ye! u dont see people on mdma goin around thinkin they are better or "more rave" then the people who is sober.
U people better watch ur own egos, ur not better than anyone else. I know people who drugs who are alot nicer to be around then people who only look down on others
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 15:43:27
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i challenge you to find one person who has had ecstasy (mdma not some dodgy adulterated pill) and found it to be a negative experience.
Err, ask the people who have died from it.
I'm not against E (mdma) although have never taken it myself, but I think it is VERY naive and ignorant of you to think that mdma is completely harmless. Yes it's perfectly safe for some, but for some it can cause overheating, psychological disorders, stroke and even death. And this is from mdma, and NOT dodgy pills.
I say each to their own, but at least be aware of the FACTS, NOT what you just believe. If you want to take the risk, then that's your choice, and there's nothing wrong with that, but be aware there IS a risk. I would like to point out that severe repercussions are very rare, but psychological ones are FAIRLY common. These are FACTS.
However, I think a lot of people are missing the point of the topic. I don't think the author once said they were against drugs at a rave full stop* (*period for you guys from the US). They just were having a rant at those that go to Raves for no other reason than to take drugs, and not because of the music. My reply earlier is referring to these people.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 16:15:00
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Originally posted by snerkler:
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Originally posted by simdog:
i challenge you to find one person who has had ecstasy (mdma not some dodgy adulterated pill) and found it to be a negative experience.
Err, ask the people who have died from it.
I'm not against E (mdma) although have never taken it myself, but I think it is VERY naive and ignorant of you to think that mdma is completely harmless. Yes it's perfectly safe for some, but for some it can cause overheating, psychological disorders, stroke and even death. And this is from mdma, and NOT dodgy pills.
I say each to their own, but at least be aware of the FACTS, NOT what you just believe. If you want to take the risk, then that's your choice, and there's nothing wrong with that, but be aware there IS a risk. I would like to point out that severe repercussions are very rare, but psychological ones are FAIRLY common. These are FACTS.
I do agree with this. Of course there are dangers with any drug and that includes alcohol etc. These should be weighed up by the individual who should be left to their own devices to make a decision as to whether or not they want to do them. It shouldn't be up to the government or snobby wee gets to tell people what they should be ingesting providing of course that their actions aren't harming anyone else.
What business of yours is it if someone wants to do a few pills and chew their face up at a rave? By all means have a giggle at their no doubt hilarious facial expressions but don't be so quick to judge people. If someone isn't causing you a problem why let it concern you?
I know a lot of people who do rugs and a lot who go to raves. I don’t know a single person who only goes to raves to do rugs and doesn’t enjoy the music though. That’s a load of pishwiggle if ever I’ve heard it.
I'm not talking to anyone specifically here by the way, just my turn for a rant. I do love a good rant. :)
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snerkler
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 16:21:23
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I don’t know a single person who only goes to raves to do rugs and doesn’t enjoy the music though. That’s a load of pishwiggle if ever I’ve heard it.
I'm not talking to anyone specifically here by the way, just my turn for a rant. I do love a good rant. :)
Unfortunately I've come across the odd individual who went to a rave purely to get off their face and not liked the music. Must admit, they are few and far between, but lets oust them anyway ;-)
And we all love a good rant ;-)
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 16:40:23
haha well that's pretty damn sad. I feel very sorry for them. :( Why not just stay home and get fecked. Odd.
That would be like me going to some RnB club to get badgered. I'd sooner shoot myself haha.
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 16:49:00
short for time but must post so didnt read every reply so sorry if i repete.
drugs at a rave=perfectly fine
going to rave to do drugs as the first reason=the problem with any rave scene, and really any scene at all.
yes a big part of raves is dress how you want, do what you want, worry about yourself mentality. but the people at raves affect you weather you give a shit or not. if a majority of people are there just to do drugs than the ammount of people who WILL misuse them, rises to a level that makes me personally uncomfortable. if you are there for drugs first it is no longer about the music and that is simply wrong imo. if you cant go to a rave sober than you really dont like our music, and you dont belong. plenty of other scenes can give you the sense of belonging and friendship. it MUST be music FIRST SECOND AND THIRD or STAY AT HOME DO DRUGS AND BLAST 'TECHNO'.
again to be clear drugs are fine, drugs at a rave are fine, in fact i believe at some point should be experienced if your already thinking about it. but to go to a party to get ****ed FIRST music or community second, than i have an issue with you because its a dangerous mentality. most people on drugs are fine, and safe. some are not. if 200 people are rollin, my guess is not all will be safe. thats an issue personally, and as a promoter, and as an advocate of the raving scene.
please stop comming out to get ****ed only. get trashed or high to ENHANCE your experience, not create it....that is all i got right now :)
*edit k i had more time than i thought. all else i gotta say is i dont get how some people are so hard on the point about **** everyone else worry about yourself kinda thing. imo thats the OPOSITE of what a rave is. a rave has a sense of COMUNITY around it that a lot of things dont. we are there to SUPPORT others in what they choose to do, not just let them do it. part of the reason that i think if you are going to do drugs a rave is a good place, is because everyone there is open abut it and there to help. Therefore if everyone is ****ed up, and too ****ed as some will (as i already stated) than we have to SUPPORT people and educate them that this is not healthy for you, for us, and for the scene in general.
im not on a moral pedistal. in fact i think its the ones who disregard the down sides to drugs for the upsides that are on the pedistal, not only an arrogant one, but an ignorant one as well
...and i love british slang! makes me laugh. i always try an pick up some when i can lol.
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snerkler
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 17:19:24
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Originally posted by Jester MC:
if 200 people are rollin
Haha, I just love some of the American/Canadian lingo, sometimes our British terminology sound so crap in comparison.
When I hear this teminology it always reminds me of Picture me Rollin' by 2Pac :-)
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 19:15:14
lol they always have these sayings for mixing different drugs some crap like jedi flipping hippie flipping lol
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 19:41:47
well, im still gonna get jimmied at raves.
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 20:30:43
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Originally posted by snerkler:
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Originally posted by simdog:
i challenge you to find one person who has had ecstasy (mdma not some dodgy adulterated pill) and found it to be a negative experience.
Err, ask the people who have died from it.
I'm not against E (mdma) although have never taken it myself, but I think it is VERY naive and ignorant of you to think that mdma is completely harmless. Yes it's perfectly safe for some, but for some it can cause overheating, psychological disorders, stroke and even death. And this is from mdma, and NOT dodgy pills.
I say each to their own, but at least be aware of the FACTS, NOT what you just believe. If you want to take the risk, then that's your choice, and there's nothing wrong with that, but be aware there IS a risk. I would like to point out that severe repercussions are very rare, but psychological ones are FAIRLY common. These are FACTS.
However, I think a lot of people are missing the point of the topic. I don't think the author once said they were against drugs at a rave full stop* (*period for you guys from the US). They just were having a rant at those that go to Raves for no other reason than to take drugs, and not because of the music. My reply earlier is referring to these people.
e and mdma arent the same thing...mdma is just the main ingredient in some e tabs..mightnt even be present in some...e tabs are a load of chemicals bunged into a tablet with a miniscule amount of mdma to save money..pure mdma is a different story...ive never heard of anybody who died from mdma
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 20:39:22
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well, im still gonna get jimmied at raves.
Each to their own.
haha class..i wish we had raves here
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Posted - 2009/09/11 : 21:02:43
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Originally posted by snerkler:
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Originally posted by ozmium:
prepare for a rant :
i hate it when people just go to raves to do drugs i always tell them ogh your a raver? and they say yeah i always pop extacy im like kmon man dont u just wanna go for the music. anyway thats what makes me mad so what do u guys think i mean drugs at a rave or music at a rave??
I can honestly say I was always stone cold sober when I went raving, even during the early to mid 90's at the height of the extacy saga.
To me music is my drug, I don't need anything else. I still was dancing at 7am, when al my mates were on a come down. I'm not against exstacy if people want to take it for the right reason, to enhance the music, but don't just go to raves so you can take it. Who wants those people in the scene, certainly not me. I would class those people as drugies, rather than party go-ers.
On saying that, at least people taking E are nice when they're on it, unlike coke heads who are just arrogant nobs that think they're the bees knees, when everyone else around them just thinks they're cocks and can't stand em.
And that's my rant ;-)
I'm eye to eye with you.
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Posted - 2009/09/12 : 12:49:42
i was at a rave last week and i had a super time with no drugs,but i was drinking and i do enjoy a good drink 
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Posted - 2009/09/12 : 16:48:38
not red the fred but, you can't rave without drugs, sorry! just doesn't happen im affraid.
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