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95_was_the_time
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 Posted - 2009/09/27 : 18:11:52
yeah well, im 25 now so i know what im talking about. ive been pashonate about the scene from the begining so to be honest, why is everyone trying to take the rise out of me
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leham89
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Posted - 2009/09/27 : 18:16:54
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
yeah well, im 25 now so i know what im talking about. ive been pashonate about the scene from the begining so to be honest, why is everyone trying to take the rise out of me
we not trying to take the rise out of you...you just moan a little bit too much tbh.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/09/27 : 18:24:00
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
yeah well, im 25 now so i know what im talking about. ive been pashonate about the scene from the begining so to be honest, why is everyone trying to take the rise out of me
because that's all you do is bitch and moan about how much u hate the current scene. if you actually spent 1/2 as much time doing some sort of action to help the scene or bring bak the old skool instead of bitching about it on the forums here then you would probably be successful in making a difference. but you don't.
and this manifesto crap was not going to help because you will never find a person who 100% agrees with you or your tactics because you seem like a person who is unwilling to redefine the purpose of the mission in order to gain enough attention. that's why many ppl didn't take you serious on here. you show no empathy towards others, and genuinely you never will
and as for me i don't do anything to the scene because i enjoy the current hardcore that is out. yes it's not as great as some of the many anthems b4 1999, but nevertheless i still like it. and i guess i am fortunate that the US is not obsessed with the likes of darren styles, aatw and raverbaby because maybe i would turn to despise the scene just like you. but thankfully, i don't
EDIT: also to clarify, i'm not obsessed w/ DS raverbaby, or aatw. i definitely love the stuff by darwin, entity, joey riot, and basically all of the artists who have participated HU in making such a successful album. it may not be a great success in units sold compared to aatw crap, but the quality shits all over anything they've ever made. Hardcore Underground ftw!
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2009/09/27 : 23:38:34
I love discovering New Hardcore I never heard before. Most of it is from the 90s though. Hardcore isn't the same without hard kicks 
new tune in the works...
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/09/28 : 00:03:04
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Maybe d'n'b is the future.
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catjam
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Posted - 2009/09/28 : 00:13:11
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
I love discovering New Hardcore I never heard before. Most of it is from the 90s though. Hardcore isn't the same without hard kicks
new tune in the works...
Yeh its not the same for me either
i find it strange that there is basicly no hard kicks in uk hardcore trax
its not that i think all trax should have hard kicks because i don`t
but you would think there would be a good mixture of both
imo the uk always had the best variety of hardcore
but variety seems to have went the way of the dodo
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snerkler
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Posted - 2009/09/28 : 08:51:45
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
yeah well, im 25 now so i know what im talking about. ive been pashonate about the scene from the begining so to be honest, why is everyone trying to take the rise out of me
So you were listening to hardcore when you were 4 were you?
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Posted - 2009/09/28 : 09:35:50
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
yeah well, im 25 now so i know what im talking about. ive been pashonate about the scene from the begining so to be honest, why is everyone trying to take the rise out of me
So you were listening to hardcore when you were 4 were you?
haha good spot... my son ha been listenin to hardcore since he was born now 3 and goin strong...
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Lilley
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Posted - 2009/09/28 : 11:26:26
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any particular song that makes hardcore sound like electro?
from what i recall, quite a lot of joey riot and stormtooper from their HU1 mix. seemed to be a bit in HU3 as well.
Maybe not sounds like electro, but definately incorporates electro styles and riffs.
Getting away from that crap is why I listen to hardtrance, happy hardcore and the like, but they all seem to be taking on influence, particularly trance, which is a shame. I would say Hardstyle and gabber are really the only two styles comletely unaffected.
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EvoDave101
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Posted - 2009/09/28 : 11:46:52
you think you can personally change the whole hardcore scene across the world...? hahaha get a grip
no one is making you listen to darren styles...
maybe you should start listening to radio 4
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2009/09/28 : 15:49:27
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Originally posted by snerkler:
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
yeah well, im 25 now so i know what im talking about. ive been pashonate about the scene from the begining so to be honest, why is everyone trying to take the rise out of me
So you were listening to hardcore when you were 4 were you?
no probably 8 or 9, but i had caught up by the time i was 16. so **** you!
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/09/28 : 18:32:26
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
any particular song that makes hardcore sound like electro?
I would say Hardstyle and gabber are really the only two styles comletely unaffected.
i'm not sure where exactly hardstyle originated from, but there is an extremely close resemblance from US Hard House from the 90s, and now some ppl call it newstyle, since ppl in Spain produce it as well. in fact sometimes it becomes difficult for me to separate both of them
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snerkler
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Posted - 2009/09/29 : 10:45:04
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
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Originally posted by snerkler:
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
yeah well, im 25 now so i know what im talking about. ive been pashonate about the scene from the begining so to be honest, why is everyone trying to take the rise out of me
So you were listening to hardcore when you were 4 were you?
no probably 8 or 9, but i had caught up by the time i was 16. so **** you!
Ahh, what a lovely guy. I can't see why my post offended you and I don't think anyone was trying to get a rise from you, just expressing a difference of opinion. If you think that everytime someone opposes your view they are trying to get a rise from you you aren't going to get anywhere matey. No-one will ever take you seriously and they will start trying to get a rise from you just to undermime you even more. Rise above it. That's what I did in this post, I was going to bite back but thought better of it and thought I'd share some advice instead, much more constructive
By the way, I have genuinely been around the scene since day one so I do know what I am talking about.
P.S. As you like correcting peoples' spelling, it's "passionate" not "pashonate"
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Posted - 2009/09/30 : 00:32:57
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
I love discovering New Hardcore I never heard before. Most of it is from the 90s though. Hardcore isn't the same without hard kicks
new tune in the works...
Yeh its not the same for me either
i find it strange that there is basicly no hard kicks in uk hardcore trax
its not that i think all trax should have hard kicks because i don`t
but you would think there would be a good mixture of both
imo the uk always had the best variety of hardcore
but variety seems to have went the way of the dodo
agree with that! and would love to see a load more key changes in tracks like the good old days!
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Smoogie
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 Posted - 2009/09/30 : 10:54:57
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Originally posted by catjam:
Yeh its not the same for me either
i find it strange that there is basicly no hard kicks in uk hardcore trax
its not that i think all trax should have hard kicks because i don`t
but you would think there would be a good mixture of both
imo the uk always had the best variety of hardcore
but variety seems to have went the way of the dodo
A couple of years ago some artists did have Uk Hardcore tunes with hard kickds. One tune Brisk & Vagabond - Night & Dayz and Eclypse - Be happy (Vaggabond Remix) both had hard kicks & where popular but they where second best against the Clubland sound that remixed old club & pop tunes. If you look around you will find tunes with hard kicks but these never made the compilations and where harly played out 
Good tunes won't get heard unless they get played. If an artist like's a tune, it goes on their mix in the latest compilation. Listeners like these tunes so request them at the events and some tunes become popular. If a tune never gets played out much or on the CDs, ravers won't hear it so it becomes ignored.
Artists like Robbie Long, Stormtrooper, Devestate, Sharkey, Marc Smith, Brisk, Vaggabond and a small number of others where keen to put tunes with hard kicks out. Some of it resembles the Dutch Hardcore of the 90s but with a newer Freeform feel to it (infact alot of Dutch Hardcore resembles today's Freeform) Crush on Hardcore CD 4 I think it is has tunes like that. Sadly, it has been uable to compete with the Raverbaby, Clubland style which has forced itself apon ravers with remixes of club tunes or pop tunes (im yet to hear a Poker Face remix) and this has a comercial apeal, all of a sudden people think that is what raver's want when really it is not. The Clubland sound is now dated & I expect big labels to dioe out in the next couple of years.
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