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Rayovac
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 Posted - 2009/10/01 : 01:23:59
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but, i totally agree with everything you said, religion has NO place in modern society.
Outdated, unproven, unnecesary shit is what i say
Couldn't have said it better.
Unfortunately... well, I think you know what I'm about to say. lol
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/10/01 : 05:33:25
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Originally posted by Rayovac:
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Originally posted by tru bass:
but, i totally agree with everything you said, religion has NO place in modern society.
Outdated, unproven, unnecesary shit is what i say
Couldn't have said it better.
Unfortunately... well, I think you know what I'm about to say. lol
i agree with this as well
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whispering
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Posted - 2009/10/01 : 05:39:33
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Originally posted by tru bass:
but, i totally agree with everything you said, religion has NO place in modern society.
Outdated, unproven, unnecesary shit is what i say
Totalitarianism has no place in any society, not now, not ever.
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Rayovac
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Posted - 2009/10/01 : 05:44:34
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by tru bass:
but, i totally agree with everything you said, religion has NO place in modern society.
Outdated, unproven, unnecesary shit is what i say
Totalitarianism has no place in any society, not now, not ever.
Maybe I should just start saying innit, it saves me time. 
...Only problem is that I always think of init when I see/hear that...
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snerkler
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Posted - 2009/10/01 : 15:24:36
Hmm, maybe this puzzle was more difficult before everyone jumped on the sudoku band wagon.
As for religion, each th their own. I just don't see how you can have such faith in something you can't prove is real?
I personally think it's a load of rubbish, we can't all agree on one god for starters, makes you laugh doesn't it?
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/10/01 : 16:12:13
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Hmm, maybe this puzzle was more difficult before everyone jumped on the sudoku band wagon.
i never tried sudoku so that's probably why it took me so long.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/10/01 : 19:53:40
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Hmm, maybe this puzzle was more difficult before everyone jumped on the sudoku band wagon.
As for religion, each th their own. I just don't see how you can have such faith in something you can't prove is real?
I personally think it's a load of rubbish, we can't all agree on one god for starters, makes you laugh doesn't it?
Can you prove everything we call science is fact?
You can't, it's all theory. Science, itself, is the basis that we can do something multiple times, and it'll always come out the same, meaning it has to be true. Right? So can you tell me, cold FACT that you can do something over 400 million times in a row, in the same exact conditions each time, that it would ALWAYS come out the same?
You can't. Because everything we THINK we know could be FALSE. We've thought MANY TIMES in the past something was just true, no doubts, then something happens. We see something, changing the way we see the world, the universe "reality". Changing all those "FACTS" into nothing but crazy talk!
No one on Earth, that isn't straight up ignorant, can tell me everything we perceive is real, cold hard fact. Life works out of the scope of our mind. As intelligent as we are, we see things LIMITED, just like other species. We see more then other species of animals, sure, but we're far from being all seeing, all knowing.
All we know as truth, could in fact just be lies. All we know as fact, could in fact be lies. Nothing we do is EXACT, nothing we've tried is PERFECT. We may be able to understand how to do something, but not understand at ALL how it actually works, or why. Take our brain for example.
Our brains are advanced, no, that is true. How could you deny that when we've come so far? Deny our mind is powerful, so powerful it's able to doubt ITSELF. It talks about ITSELF. Not knowing exactly how ITSELF works. It just knows it does, some how.
So everything you know, anything you could spit at me as true fact, is in "reality" not. It's just what was perceive as fact, and correct. When, it could all be nothing. It has happened countless times before, it WILL happen again.
Everything we "know" will be fundamentally rocked again, at one point or another. The fight to say we know something, cold hard fact, no doubts, is false. The only thing we know is what we see, touch, hear, taste, and feel. Which is basis for nothing but spewing we know something, when we really don't.
You can't prove the big bang happened, and that's how the planets formed. Maybe not YET, but not now, you can't. So you can't say a God(s), or higher being I should say, CAN'T exist. Because WE don't know that; you can say you do. But, you're being ignorant. You DON'T KNOW IF ONE, or more, EXISTS OR NOT! There is no cold hard fact for anything, we just know things happen. Why they happen? We can guess, and it can seem logical to us now, but will seem stupid in the future when we learn more. Knowledge is endless, it's impossible to say we know something for fact now, because we simply just don't know.
We just know it happens. We don't know how all of this stuff got around us, and there are more questions then answers to things. What is the Universe expanding in? How could something just be squeezed into a single atom, then explode? What made it explode? How can you know it even really happened? How do you know there isn't really a god?
I think the episode of Futurama, where Fry and Leela are looking for Bender in space. Then bender meets "god". And the quote "If you do something right, they'll think you never did anything at all", or something in that very similar nature.
Sorry for this rant, but you can't say we know. When we don't; but hey. You can turn it around, and say how do you know we're wrong? You can't prove we're wrong, if you don't have proof.
The argument will continue onward like this, until we TRULY FULLY KNOW. Which, in my eyes, will never happen. It's just back and forth, and the reason it's all in BELIEF.
No one should say they're right, everyone else is wrong. It's YOUR belief for a reason, so don't try to act like you're the top one. You're always gonna be right, and everyone else that thinks otherwise is just wrong. Saying there is no god, because there's no proof can be turned into You can't prove there isn't a god, too.
It's back and forth, and non-sense. Believe what you want, don't act like what you believe in is right, when it could be wrong.
Agnosticism, confusing people is our hobby.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/10/02 : 00:13:41
seriously man u already said all that stuff before most ppl don't care.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/10/02 : 00:37:16
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
seriously man u already said all that stuff before most ppl don't care.
That's good for them.
And...I care why others don't care, why?
Why do you post anything on here if you think others won't care?
Because you don't care what others care?
Well, there you go.
I post because I want to. It was relevant to what he said, so I wrote that reply. Don't read it if you don't want to.
You won't hurt my feelings, promise!
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/10/02 : 03:07:38
actually his focus was on the topic of religion not everything else. your "doctrine" or whateverthefuk you wanna call it was ridiculously excessive for responding on his opinions. your post doesn't make you any more right or wrong than him, it just makes you look like you're wacked out of your head and high strung on things
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/10/02 : 03:10:12
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by tru bass:
but, i totally agree with everything you said, religion has NO place in modern society.
Outdated, unproven, unnecesary shit is what i say
Totalitarianism has no place in any society, not now, not ever.
hah i just noticed that you put the crazy town girl as your avatar!
i would like to put up a pedobear photo in celebration, but i'm afraid of causing the total chaos that happened last year because of pedobear!
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/10/02 : 10:56:48
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
actually his focus was on the topic of religion not everything else. your "doctrine" or whateverthefuk you wanna call it was ridiculously excessive for responding on his opinions. your post doesn't make you any more right or wrong than him, it just makes you look like you're wacked out of your head and high strung on things
So having an opposite opinion then someone else makes me whacked out of my head, and high?
Huh, I wonder how we ever debate things in this world then.
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Posted - 2009/10/02 : 11:28:10
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Originally posted by snerkler:
As for religion, each th their own. I just don't see how you can have such faith in something you can't prove is real?
Thats why its called faith. I never understood why people drag on the smallest details, belief isnt some technical object that you can reverse engineer and say why it couldn't work. Its not exact science. The most basics of religion is life after death and that people have souls. Every adult whether religious in the traditional sence or not has a theory, a belief that something happens or doesnt happen after death. Whatever that is, its a belief. Not fact, not science, but a belief.
...and i agree with most of the stuff TheOneNOnly just wrote.
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Citrick
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Posted - 2009/10/02 : 22:46:04
It might just be because I'm Irish and we're Catholic crazy here, or at least used to be, but I totally disagree with you all on this.
There's no need for proof, thats not the point of it. God isn't just some guy that wants to be worshiped or the King or whatever and the Bible isn't fact. Finding flaws in the Bible doesn't matter shit to anyone. It's about guidance and help. And my Faith has helped me through alot of things and given me great ease of mind at times and I'm very thankful for it.
Also anyone who has spent even a single day in Africa will know how it is anything but unnecessary and I find it almost offensive that you could say it has no place in society.
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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/10/03 : 00:30:40
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It might just be because I'm Irish and we're Catholic crazy here, or at least used to be, but I totally disagree with you all on this.
There's no need for proof, thats not the point of it. God isn't just some guy that wants to be worshiped or the King or whatever and the Bible isn't fact. Finding flaws in the Bible doesn't matter shit to anyone. It's about guidance and help. And my Faith has helped me through alot of things and given me great ease of mind at times and I'm very thankful for it.
Also anyone who has spent even a single day in Africa will know how it is anything but unnecessary and I find it almost offensive that you could say it has no place in society.
if you would like tog o back to what i said, 'no place in modern society' hinting towards MEDCs..
i completely understand that religion has a huge place in LEDCs and countries suffering from crisis etc. but could you not say that the wars and conflicts it has caused in these areas is very close to, if not equal with the wrongdoing that ould be caused by it's departure?
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