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Future_Shock Advanced Member
Australia
2,483 posts Joined: Apr, 2007
Posted - 2009/10/15 : 07:51:56
I had this debate with someone today. She does, i don't.
I used to be a romantic, believing in love and all that junk. I haven't necessarily had a bad experience, just as i get older, it's just getting harder to believe in.
Yeah, i believe people can be attracted to each other, but love? That "can't live without you" kind of love, i think is just a figment of our imaginations. I think people are just in love with the idea of falling in love. I just think people use it as a safety blanket - it gives people hope that there is some grand emotion you can have for someone... When in reality, it seems more like a hallmark buzz word than anything else. Something similar to valentines day... just something created in our minds to fulfill an urge we all have - to be needed.
I think you can be fond of people - like your family, your friends etc. I just don't think this "love" exists.
But i'm not here to prove anyone wrong or right, i just thought it was an interesting debate, as it's turned out to me, to be something like religion. Some people believe devoutly in it, some people don't.
Starstruck Advanced Member
Australia
1,152 posts Joined: Jul, 2008
Posted - 2009/10/15 : 08:22:56
With all that being said, i still believe there are people who do experience love in it's true beauty.
I don't believe anything is impossible when it comes to "true love". Whether it's TRUE existance is actual or factual, i personally think it is. Although i do think it's very rare.
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Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,638 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2009/10/15 : 08:33:49
fair enough, im guessing you dont have any children? :P
snerkler Senior Member
United Kingdom
461 posts Joined: Aug, 2008
Posted - 2009/10/15 : 10:18:35
When you find the right person you will be a believer.
I don't believe in religion, valentines and all that crap, but I believe in love. I used to be a sceptic like you until I met my wife, now I see what this 'love' thing really is, and it's great.
I do think that when people say that they can't live without someone is nonsense though, because you can. It's just that your life is never the same and never feels complete again, but you cope, somehow. My world revolves around my wife, and everything I do I consider her. I don't want to imagine life without her.
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Wilky Banned
United Kingdom
6,198 posts Joined: Mar, 2008
Posted - 2009/10/15 : 10:38:05
im with andy on this one. to me its just a wonans magazine load of bollox... it depends on what u love tho. i love my son and always will hardcore its been a part of my life since i was a teeny bopper (almost 28) so i guess thats passion more than love. it all depends on what u perceive mate how you look at things and what you have and what you're into
kathryn Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,520 posts Joined: Apr, 2005
Posted - 2009/10/15 : 10:51:48
quote:Originally posted by snerkler:
Maybe this is why the 'love' has gone from the Hardcore scene, too many sceptics/non-believers. Food for thought????
(preparing for a barage of abuse and how everyone still loves the music etc) ;-)
maybe the love has gone for recent hardcore releases cos it all sounds the same. Theres no fun in it anymore. Nothing that makes you say 'wow' i need to hear that part again. Its all start of the song then build up then finish song so repetitive and predictable.
redwingz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,483 posts Joined: Jan, 2005
Posted - 2009/10/15 : 11:11:23
I honestly dont know. I think love is what you make it. For Instance, a love that a parent has for a child I should imagine does exist, in the sense that, no matter what the child does the parent will always be there to say 'Im here for you', thats the only kind of unconditional love I can think of.
Love for a non-relative (partner) hmmmm, its a tough one. I think it does exist but I think its alot harder to find than people make out. People say they love eachother all the time, its like after a few months of dating they believe that its the right thing to say. I reckon 90% of the time the people are not actually in love, they just think/hope they are. People have strong feelings for someone and instantly call it love, it is possible just to like someone alot!
To me I have always believed that true love is when you break up with someone and you can still admit for the rest of your life 'yes i did love them and would have done anything for them' or when you are with someone all your life. I have had ex's who I have told I love them, Im sure everyone has, but I cant look back on any of them and say 'yeah that was really love' So to me.....Ive never been in love.
If you have never felt it, then I guess you cant judge. Id like to think love does exist, but I think it takes time, I think you have to build a relationship first and go through things together and realise that you are there for one another no matter what.
snerkler Senior Member
United Kingdom
461 posts Joined: Aug, 2008
Posted - 2009/10/15 : 11:23:18
quote:Originally posted by redwingz:
People say they love eachother all the time, its like after a few months of dating they believe that its the right thing to say. I reckon 90% of the time the people are not actually in love, they just think/hope they are. People have strong feelings for someone and instantly call it love, it is possible just to like someone alot!
Although I believe in love I do agree with this. A lot of people confuse lust with love, or simply strong feelings with love.
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Posted - 2009/10/15 : 14:12:07
i do believe in love, but i can't understand what it is, i guess nobody can.
maybe it's just a word we use to explain feelings we have for a person we think we love))
but different people have different feelings. love can be passion and lust, or it can be comfort and calm state of mind when you're with person you love, or it can be all together, and no one can prove love is smth else. it's so personal...
but what i will never believe in is eternal love. every kind of love has its beginning and the end.
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Ionosphere Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,750 posts Joined: Dec, 2004
Posted - 2009/10/15 : 18:15:40
quote:Originally posted by redwingz:
If you have never felt it, then I guess you cant judge.
This is the truth, not only with Love but with every other form of emotion or belief.
Yes, you're entitled to an opinion but without real experience your opinion is effectively invalid.
I'm with snerkler on this one.
The stuff that's constantly rammed down our throats is only so much crap to make money and shouldn't be confused with reality
but, imo, it seems that this is most people's idea of reality.... which is very sad.
So, to answer Andy's question, yes, I believe in love and so will you if you ever experience it.
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