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JustIncredible
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 Posted - 2009/10/26 : 23:03:59
Now that to me sounds stupid and ignorant.
If you can give me 100% proof that he existed then maybe it wouldn't.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 23:10:33
If you could give me 100% proof a god(s) didn't exist, I'd believe your view too.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 23:11:33
The point is it's up to belief.
You can't prove a god(s) do not exist, and you can't prove they do either.
It's why it's belief, and not "fact".
Even if some like to claim it is.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 23:33:38
I actually love you TheOneAndOnly. If for no other reason then so that i don't have to make the effort to type everything that you already have (you said everything i would have done).
People who claim that god dosn't exist as a fact (while genuinly beleiving that it is so and that they are right) make me laugh, for all the reasons you just pointed out. And no that comment is not directed you at JustInCredible.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/10/26 : 23:39:26
The belt clip of impossibly large ammo, funny expression, and bald head does it.
Indeed it does.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2009/10/27 : 00:15:00
It's 'done' it for me many times.
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2009/10/27 : 00:21:16
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I have never read anything in the King James Bible about same-sex marriage. Does the Bible talk on homosexuality...yes, but I think within only 3 verses throught the old and new testaments. You'll find many homosexuals who are Christians, they just have their own views about what it means to be a Christian. More faiths are now accepting homosexuals within their Church's membership.
doesnt mention same-sex marriage specifically, because it wasnt a problem. Same-sex relations WAS a problem, so it got mentioned. Re: homosexual christian thing, did you read what Triquatra wrote? Once you have sufficently changed a religion so that your satisfied with it even though you're in direct contradiction to the religion, that is hardly following the religion.
So from what he was saying, essentially either you are fundamentally christian or christian by namesakes only, and in all reality, not christian at all.
You have a very small mind spectrum.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/10/27 : 00:24:09
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It's 'done' it for me many times.
Apparently you're not so hard to get.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2009/10/27 : 00:30:33
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I have never read anything in the King James Bible about same-sex marriage. Does the Bible talk on homosexuality...yes, but I think within only 3 verses throught the old and new testaments. You'll find many homosexuals who are Christians, they just have their own views about what it means to be a Christian. More faiths are now accepting homosexuals within their Church's membership.
doesnt mention same-sex marriage specifically, because it wasnt a problem. Same-sex relations WAS a problem, so it got mentioned. Re: homosexual christian thing, did you read what Triquatra wrote? Once you have sufficently changed a religion so that your satisfied with it even though you're in direct contradiction to the religion, that is hardly following the religion.
So from what he was saying, essentially either you are fundamentally christian or christian by namesakes only, and in all reality, not christian at all.
You have a very small mind spectrum.
Well, he is right though, your not denying that right?
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2009/10/27 : 02:12:37
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I have never read anything in the King James Bible about same-sex marriage. Does the Bible talk on homosexuality...yes, but I think within only 3 verses throught the old and new testaments. You'll find many homosexuals who are Christians, they just have their own views about what it means to be a Christian. More faiths are now accepting homosexuals within their Church's membership.
doesnt mention same-sex marriage specifically, because it wasnt a problem. Same-sex relations WAS a problem, so it got mentioned. Re: homosexual christian thing, did you read what Triquatra wrote? Once you have sufficently changed a religion so that your satisfied with it even though you're in direct contradiction to the religion, that is hardly following the religion.
So from what he was saying, essentially either you are fundamentally christian or christian by namesakes only, and in all reality, not christian at all.
You have a very small mind spectrum.
Well, he is right though, your not denying that right?
The function of that statement is correct, I am not denying that.
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Lilley
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Posted - 2009/10/27 : 02:31:38
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You have a very small mind spectrum.
Maybe.
The other option is that I'm right and those with adverse opinions are proficient at self deception.
There are infinitely many wrong answers to questions and only very few correct ones. It goes without saying that people in the former category will belittle the people in the latter. If I upset your cute personal opinion of your own "christianity" than I make no apologies for that. If a person doesnt believe or follow the basic tenets of the bible, their gonna push shit uphill in order to justify themselves as christian.
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whispering
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Posted - 2009/10/27 : 08:43:01
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a) since about day one mate, according to the Bible it was not the intended order of relationships.
AFAIK God nor Jesus wrote the bible and that is my point. Also nobody takes bible to the word, they would get into prison in a heartbeat if they did ;)
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Lilley
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Posted - 2009/10/27 : 11:28:01
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a) since about day one mate, according to the Bible it was not the intended order of relationships.
AFAIK God nor Jesus wrote the bible and that is my point. Also nobody takes bible to the word, they would get into prison in a heartbeat if they did ;)
Ahh, but all scripture is God-breathed - cent remember the reference, but its in there somewhere - google is your friend. ie. he wrote it through his subjects. As for your second point - want to elaborate on that? I can think of many people who take the bible literally. They aren't in gaol.
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whispering
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Posted - 2009/10/27 : 11:48:07
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Ahh, but all scripture is God-breathed - cent remember the reference, but its in there somewhere - google is your friend. ie. he wrote it through his subjects. As for your second point - want to elaborate on that? I can think of many people who take the bible literally. They aren't in gaol.
Yes, but someone else said that. Not god. Will look later, but you should basicly stone people to death for stuff that are legal in todays world. Also that dude who wrote the book, where he tried to live one month exactly by the bible, and he couldnt do it. When he asked from the most fundamentalist church they even said that they dont live exactly by the book.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/10/27 : 18:53:54
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by Lilley:
a) since about day one mate, according to the Bible it was not the intended order of relationships.
AFAIK God nor Jesus wrote the bible and that is my point. Also nobody takes bible to the word, they would get into prison in a heartbeat if they did ;)
Ahh, but all scripture is God-breathed - cent remember the reference, but its in there somewhere - google is your friend. ie. he wrote it through his subjects. As for your second point - want to elaborate on that? I can think of many people who take the bible literally. They aren't in gaol.
Prove it's actually God's words, and not what the man interpreted them to be?
Could God All Mighty's words have not been said in puzzlement to word? Where we fought to understand what he meant, translating it into what they thought he could of meant?
You can't predict God's actions, or true meanings. Who is to say he hasn't evolved his state of mind as well? What if something they, his subjects, thought was the meaning, and not really the meaning at all. What if it was a test to see if man was truly ready to understand his ways?
There's to many questions, and not enough answers. That's why it's belief, and what you chose to believe; not something so set in stone that everyone on the planet vows to it.
Because, clearly, that's just not the case.
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