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Revs
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 Posted - 2009/11/26 : 16:36:40
It's like Darren Styles, his track sound all the same, Flashlight, Girlfriend, Come Running.. the vocals are the only exception/thing that is not bad.
But Squad-E did some epic stuff, like Ain't Seen Nothing Yet :)
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 16:54:58
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Trimms:
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Disc 1 - Squad-E - boom!!!!
Disc 2 - Styles & Breeze - these guys breathe the underground sound!
Disc 3 - Manian - omg ahh!!!
Disc 4 - Oli G & Lost Soul - doing an exclusive Raver Baby mix!
Damn boi it would be HOT!
sarcasm, please be sarcasm!!
Squad E is a terrible producer. The guy relies on presets for every tune he makes...
Holy shit how could you not realize that was sarcasm xD
Seriously, the last CD sealed the deal.
And who cares if he uses presets? He still has better mixdowns that all of us.
I think his tracks are boring but they're still well produced.
true,
but his tracks use different notes, and virtually the same sounds everytime... As a producer, I dont think he's very good..
He's a good producer but he's a boring writer. He's still a good engineer and I the fact that his tracks sound similar just means he's consistent in his engineering, not necessarily that he's using presets.
And that's a good thing? It's probably not hard for him to be consistent because. All he does is open the aame template he's used for every track he's ever written in his career as a producer, change a couple of notes and vocals around and bam! Another track pedaled out of the Squad-E studio. He probably doesn't even have to change a single level these days. I couldn't give a shit if the guy were the best, most consistent producer, engineer and masterer in Hardcore - writing comes first and he's about as literate as a neanderthal.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 18:43:08
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
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Originally posted by Trimms:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Trimms:
Disc 1 - Squad-E - boom!!!!
Disc 2 - Styles & Breeze - these guys breathe the underground sound!
Disc 3 - Manian - omg ahh!!!
Disc 4 - Oli G & Lost Soul - doing an exclusive Raver Baby mix!
Damn boi it would be HOT!
sarcasm, please be sarcasm!!
Squad E is a terrible producer. The guy relies on presets for every tune he makes...
Holy shit how could you not realize that was sarcasm xD
Seriously, the last CD sealed the deal.
And who cares if he uses presets? He still has better mixdowns that all of us.
I think his tracks are boring but they're still well produced.
true,
but his tracks use different notes, and virtually the same sounds everytime... As a producer, I dont think he's very good..
He's a good producer but he's a boring writer. He's still a good engineer and I the fact that his tracks sound similar just means he's consistent in his engineering, not necessarily that he's using presets.
And that's a good thing? It's probably not hard for him to be consistent because. All he does is open the aame template he's used for every track he's ever written in his career as a producer, change a couple of notes and vocals around and bam! Another track pedaled out of the Squad-E studio. He probably doesn't even have to change a single level these days. I couldn't give a shit if the guy were the best, most consistent producer, engineer and masterer in Hardcore - writing comes first and he's about as literate as a neanderthal.
allot of his tracks are also remixes... so not allot of musical talent is needed.
As my lecturer said today; "anyone can learn a program or methods used to do something, but only the various few have the creativity or innovation to create something truely special".
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 18:45:30
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
It's like Darren Styles, his track sound all the same, Flashlight, Girlfriend, Come Running.. the vocals are the only exception/thing that is not bad.
But Squad-E did some epic stuff, like Ain't Seen Nothing Yet :)
That was only a good track because of Whizzkids vocals tbh... The radio effects are overused, and the instrumental side well mastered but generally average.
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 18:59:46
Yeah that's what I said … only the vocals are the good thing in the track.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 19:01:40
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Yeah that's what I said … only the vocals are the good thing in the track.
you said:
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But Squad-E did some epic stuff, like Ain't Seen Nothing Yet :)
so I said: only thanks to whizzkidd...
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 19:25:19
Ill take a poorly engineered well-written/interesting track over a well engineered boring track anyday.
That wasn't my point. My point was that your criticism of squad-e as a PRODUCER is unfounded. He's a good producer but a boring writer in my books.
However, he's had plenty of hits and I like a few of his tracks so he's obviously doing something right sometimes. Every producer has their "sound" - I could say the same thing you say about squad-e about re-con. Lame.
And for whoever said "you can know a program really well but bla bla" (don't feel like quoting as I'm posting from my phone). Producing is about a lot more than knowing how to use a program. I know cubase pretty much inside and out now and my mixdowns still aren't anywhere near as good my mentor's. Producing is about so many things. Sound engineering (which takes years to master), music theory/composition (again, although some are gifted), etc.
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 19:47:22
"Never become a prisoner to your own style"
A good friend of mine who is a producer told me that once.
I believe that is whats wrong with Squad-E, not that he is a bad producer/writer.
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 20:32:10
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Yeah that's what I said … only the vocals are the good thing in the track.
you said:
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But Squad-E did some epic stuff, like Ain't Seen Nothing Yet :)
so I said: only thanks to whizzkidd...
Oh okay, no I was referring to Darren Styles :
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… the vocals are the only exception/thing that is not bad.
Whizzkid also did the vocals in Girlfriend, that's why ;)
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 20:46:52
i liked the squad-e remixes on bonkers 15 alot...havent really liked anything else he's done...(or should i say remixed) since then
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 21:07:53
Squad-E has done a good job with his disc on the last HTID. I really liked most of the tracks he actually wrote like Hypasonic - Go (Squad-E Remix), Squad-E & Whizzkid - Bring It On, Hypasonic - Your Love (Squad-E Remix) and Squad-E & Enemy - The Twista Anthem.
It seems writing-wise, he is much more active on his dance alias Hypasonic. Fair enough, I find most of his Hardcore remixes are banging, although he does stick to his formula. Then again, so does a lot of artists in Hardcore, including Gammer, Scott Brown, Orbit1, Brisk, etc. When these guys are on it, you can totally tell by the synth lead, the bass the kicks, etc. They are true to their signature sound and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
You wouldn't expect a band to change their whole instrument set-up every time they write a new song, so why would you expect that from electronic music artists?
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DeezeNuts
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 22:38:26
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
Squad-E has done a good job with his disc on the last HTID. I really liked most of the tracks he actually wrote like Hypasonic - Go (Squad-E Remix), Squad-E & Whizzkid - Bring It On, Hypasonic - Your Love (Squad-E Remix) and Squad-E & Enemy - The Twista Anthem.
It seems writing-wise, he is much more active on his dance alias Hypasonic. Fair enough, I find most of his Hardcore remixes are banging, although he does stick to his formula. Then again, so does a lot of artists in Hardcore, including Gammer, Scott Brown, Orbit1, Brisk, etc. When these guys are on it, you can totally tell by the synth lead, the bass the kicks, etc. They are true to their signature sound and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
You wouldn't expect a band to change their whole instrument set-up every time they write a new song, so why would you expect that from electronic music artists?
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I don't know WHY people are picking out Squad-E for this when (most noticably) Brisk & Scott Brown have been doing this for years.
I thought this topic was about HU5.
To me the most solid choices would be Darwin & Entity and Fracus & Brisk
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/11/26 : 23:36:21
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
Squad-E has done a good job with his disc on the last HTID. I really liked most of the tracks he actually wrote like Hypasonic - Go (Squad-E Remix), Squad-E & Whizzkid - Bring It On, Hypasonic - Your Love (Squad-E Remix) and Squad-E & Enemy - The Twista Anthem.
It seems writing-wise, he is much more active on his dance alias Hypasonic. Fair enough, I find most of his Hardcore remixes are banging, although he does stick to his formula. Then again, so does a lot of artists in Hardcore, including Gammer, Scott Brown, Orbit1, Brisk, etc. When these guys are on it, you can totally tell by the synth lead, the bass the kicks, etc. They are true to their signature sound and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
You wouldn't expect a band to change their whole instrument set-up every time they write a new song, so why would you expect that from electronic music artists?
See what your saying, but the last sentence is a very poor comparison. There are hundreds of styles and infinate sounds available, though he uses the same selection..
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Posted - 2009/11/27 : 00:41:31
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
Squad-E has done a good job with his disc on the last HTID. I really liked most of the tracks he actually wrote like Hypasonic - Go (Squad-E Remix), Squad-E & Whizzkid - Bring It On, Hypasonic - Your Love (Squad-E Remix) and Squad-E & Enemy - The Twista Anthem.
It seems writing-wise, he is much more active on his dance alias Hypasonic. Fair enough, I find most of his Hardcore remixes are banging, although he does stick to his formula. Then again, so does a lot of artists in Hardcore, including Gammer, Scott Brown, Orbit1, Brisk, etc. When these guys are on it, you can totally tell by the synth lead, the bass the kicks, etc. They are true to their signature sound and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
You wouldn't expect a band to change their whole instrument set-up every time they write a new song, so why would you expect that from electronic music artists?
See what your saying, but the last sentence is a very poor comparison. There are hundreds of styles and infinate sounds available, though he uses the same selection..
@ Matricks: The possiblities within band music are pretty limited, though a good band (Arctic Monkeys for example) will manage to work with those limitations and smash them to pieces. Electronic is different in that, it has no limitations. You can do whatever the hell you want these days with extremely powerful synthesizers, computers etc. Yet people are still limited, but it's not the equipment it's their creativity and imagination of which Squad-E has none.
Anyway, yeah, back on topic.
Squad-E for HU5!
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Posted - 2009/11/27 : 01:35:36
squad-e is a really solid producer, c'mon, you have to be deaf to say otherwise. his tracks always sound amazing. if you don't like his style or think he lacks originality, fine, but he definately is a good producer. his basslines alone are insane, if you know what "preset" he is using, let me know.
anyways, what's a preset to you. every producer uses presets every now and then, and usually modifies them a bit, adds effects to them and improves them as much as possible. saying OMG SQUAD-E USES PRESETS just makes you sound completely ignorant..
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