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JayHH86
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 Posted - 2010/05/13 : 16:42:10
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Originally posted by DJ Specimen:
Paranormal Activity scared me shitless when I watched it the first time, but that's because I hadn't heard it was just another movie. I thought it was another documentary like that Haunting show on Discovery. It also had to do with the fact that I saw the good ending, not the theatrical. The theatrical ending is this ******** where she throws him at the camera or something, in my version she kills him downstairs and you don't see anything, just hear screams and such, then she sits by the bed rocking for two days until her friend comes to check on her and finds the dead guy.
Regardless, I watched it again and found it to be a nice break from the normal scary movie with a deranged killer on the run and sexy bitches screaming hysterically. The movie caught me as a real work of art, they used a light touch, just enough to make it scary while keeping it believable. I've noticed that a lot of people watch scary movies with the disposition that it's going to suck, and therefore those people aren't going to like any scary movie they watch...
Completely agree with that review. Fine work. I lol'd at "sexy bitches" as well.
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Originally posted by Ionosphere:
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Originally posted by JayHH86:
3) ....I can't work out whether it's worth the risk
It exists, it's not 'paranormal' as people call it, it is perfectly normal but the wise man knows to leave it alone.
So how does it 'work' exactly? What actually is happening when such a thing is done? (I'm not being antagonistic - just genuinely curious).
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Posted - 2010/05/13 : 16:51:00
curiosity killed the cat
and I have nothing more to say.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2010/05/13 : 17:00:46
Wash your mouths out with soup guys, the films rubbish. >:(
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Originally posted by Ionosphere:
It exists,
I can imagine some sort of energy source in another dimension being quite possible. That seems like the most likely possibility to me. It can be linked in with both scientific and religious beliefs. I don't think that what's basically an old fashioned scary board game has any links whatsoever though personally. ;)
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Originally posted by Ionosphere:
curiosity killed the cat
Going by the amount of crap in my raised beds it didn't do a very good job. :(
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DJ Rhythmics
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Posted - 2010/05/13 : 17:31:50
Do we really still live in an age where people still believe in this?!
Ouija boards have been debunked again and again and again and again. Want to know my ouija board experience? When I was around 12 or so some friends of mine and I would take my aunt's ouija board and ask "What do you want oh poor wandering spirit" and spell out things like cock.
Think about it for a second, the #1 distributor of ouija boards in the USA is TOYS R US. TOYS. R. US! If this thing had any kind of potential to endanger someone it would not be sold in toy stores!
It's been proven by people like James Randi that the phenomena behind ouija boards can be explained by subconscious movements you make. You'll be moving the marker to YES or NO or specific letters on purpose but you are so scared shitless or so convinced by the idea that a spirit is moving it that you don't even realize it.
http://www.randi.org/site/
And I'm not necessarily saying the paranormal doesn't exist, but I am saying there has yet to be any kind of solid proof of its existence!
PS: Like Audio Warfare said, Paranormal Activity was God awful. And like Smoogie said, I would love a piece of that :D
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scottyd2k9
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Posted - 2010/05/13 : 18:06:05
Ino paranormal exists for 2 reasons :
1 my mate did a quiji board in his shed and scared us shitless
2 the vicar from the church near my house went to someones house a while back and everytime they went down stairs the 2 year old baby would find it's way on the warddrobe..
Seriously, you dont wanna mess with a quiji board though, you might bot beleive in paranormal happenings but trust me you do this and something bad could happen..
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/05/13 : 18:44:36
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Originally posted by Ionosphere:
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Originally posted by JayHH86:
3) ....I can't work out whether it's worth the risk
It exists, it's not 'paranormal' as people call it, it is perfectly normal but the wise man knows to leave it alone.
I'm glad you said this. I wasn't going to comment because i couldn't be bothered but now that you have, i was going to say that all this stuff is surrounded by fear because it's just such a misunderstood subject for most people. If your understanding is limited enough that this stuff scares you then your better off leaving it alone.
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DJ Rhythmics
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Posted - 2010/05/13 : 18:52:21
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Originally posted by scottyd2k9:
Ino paranormal exists for 2 reasons :
1 my mate did a quiji board in his shed and scared us shitless
2 the vicar from the church near my house went to someones house a while back and everytime they went down stairs the 2 year old baby would find it's way on the warddrobe..
Seriously, you dont wanna mess with a quiji board though, you might bot beleive in paranormal happenings but trust me you do this and something bad could happen..
Mate, just because you were scared shitless doesn't mean anything. Just because I was afraid of the dark when I was a kid doesn't mean there were evil spirits after me. As for the vicar story, I'm afraid anecdotes can't be considered evidence as it's impossible to validate.
Unfortunately like Hard2Get said, if the subject is confusing and beyond understanding for someone then no matter what, the ouija board will continue to be a gateway into the unknown. All I'm saying is much like the millions of kids who sit in front of a mirror and say bloody mary three times, millions of kids use ouija boards and look back and laugh at the experience.
I best stop talking since much like religion, people sometimes don't want to accept facts.
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jenks
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Posted - 2010/05/13 : 22:53:30
Do people still believe this crap in this day and age?
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Lilley
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Posted - 2010/05/13 : 23:27:15
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Originally posted by DJ Rhythmics:
I best stop talking since much like religion, people sometimes don't want to accept facts.
What facts? non-experiences from ouaji boards are just as much anecdotal evidence as experiences. So and so said it was subconcious movement. How can they determine that? It's subconcious, not exactly measurable.
Lets say it is subconcious. Do you know in what way spirits work? I doubt it. I don't either. What if they worked by playing games with your subconcious? Where would you be then?
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Do we really still live in an age where people still believe in this?!
Yes. Because older and wiser people than you and me know its true. While we may not see much in our cosy little cocoon called the western world, find a place that does not have such a sceptical approach to life and you will be scared shitless of the things you find if you go looking hard enough. Bali, China, Northern India, Africa, all places with deep hold on worship of "spirits" in the form of ancestors, various idols etc all have a high level of messed up shit going on. Witch doctors have real power in these places.
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And I'm not necessarily saying the paranormal doesn't exist, but I am saying there has yet to be any kind of solid proof of its existence!
While that might be mildly accurate, in part because there is some truth to it, that viewpoint can mostly be explained by people walking around with their eyes shut and brain turned off. When your science starts with an assumption of naturalism, you are ruling out any possibility of supernatural cause. They will explain away stuff of witch doctors with tricks of the light, drug use, mass hysteria and hypnosis, and tricks of the subconcious, which is doing it a serious injustice.
You say there is no solid proof for its existence, I say there is no proof for its non-existence and therefore assume it does exist just in case. I think that is a much safer standing, dont you?
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Know someone that's done it? Heard legit stories about it?
The one story that stays with me is a teenage guy that turned up at the local bishops place, pretty much pissing himself asking for help. Turns out he and some friends had being playing with one of these boards and he had asked (while using it himself) when he was going to die. All the bishop could reply is "Well, you've done it now." I don't know if that turned into anything, I heard it from the bishops mouth and I don't think he saw the guy again.
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So how does it 'work' exactly? What actually is happening when such a thing is done?
What your doing is pretty much asking a spirit(s) to play with your mind. Apparently you can order them to leave. I can't remember the last time a spirit took orders from a human though.
I'm with Ionosphere, be very careful of the doors you open.
This is my take of the whole spirit thing. I'm a christian. Therefore I believe in a spiritual world. There are two sides; God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit and the devil and his evil spirits. Nothing else. The bible makes it pretty damn clear that you can't access the holy spirit through a ouija board. The way to God and the Holy Spirit is clearly detailed in the bible. There is no other way. Essentially, any spiritiual reference that does not involve God is either charlatan or reference to evil spirits disguised in whatever guise they choose, be it previous family or trees or statues or ouija boards/subconcious or whatever. So if I could give my strongest warning, it would be this: you're playing with fire.
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Edited by - Lilley on 2010/05/13 23:28:48 |
scottyd2k9
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 00:29:41
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Originally posted by DJ Rhythmics:
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Originally posted by scottyd2k9:
Ino paranormal exists for 2 reasons :
1 my mate did a quiji board in his shed and scared us shitless
2 the vicar from the church near my house went to someones house a while back and everytime they went down stairs the 2 year old baby would find it's way on the warddrobe..
Seriously, you dont wanna mess with a quiji board though, you might bot beleive in paranormal happenings but trust me you do this and something bad could happen..
Mate, just because you were scared shitless doesn't mean anything. Just because I was afraid of the dark when I was a kid doesn't mean there were evil spirits after me. As for the vicar story, I'm afraid anecdotes can't be considered evidence as it's impossible to validate.
Unfortunately like Hard2Get said, if the subject is confusing and beyond understanding for someone then no matter what, the ouija board will continue to be a gateway into the unknown. All I'm saying is much like the millions of kids who sit in front of a mirror and say bloody mary three times, millions of kids use ouija boards and look back and laugh at the experience.
I best stop talking since much like religion, people sometimes don't want to accept facts.
Ok then why dont you have a go then..
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 00:35:17
Once your dead thats it, Like monty pythons parrot!
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 04:12:08
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Horror in general is an absolutely terrible genre. I think the only people it really appeals to is teenagers.
I never liked the genre, just seems so dumb. I prefer zombie movies
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Lilley
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 11:11:07
alien was an awesome movie. So was predator. Predator wasn't really horror though. Exorcism of Emily Rose was a pretty cool movie as well, that one was seriously freaky.
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JayHH86
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 11:18:46
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by DJ Rhythmics:
I best stop talking since much like religion, people sometimes don't want to accept facts.
What facts? non-experiences from ouaji boards are just as much anecdotal evidence as experiences. So and so said it was subconcious movement. How can they determine that? It's subconcious, not exactly measurable.
Lets say it is subconcious. Do you know in what way spirits work? I doubt it. I don't either. What if they worked by playing games with your subconcious? Where would you be then?
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Do we really still live in an age where people still believe in this?!
Yes. Because older and wiser people than you and me know its true. While we may not see much in our cosy little cocoon called the western world, find a place that does not have such a sceptical approach to life and you will be scared shitless of the things you find if you go looking hard enough. Bali, China, Northern India, Africa, all places with deep hold on worship of "spirits" in the form of ancestors, various idols etc all have a high level of messed up shit going on. Witch doctors have real power in these places.
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And I'm not necessarily saying the paranormal doesn't exist, but I am saying there has yet to be any kind of solid proof of its existence!
While that might be mildly accurate, in part because there is some truth to it, that viewpoint can mostly be explained by people walking around with their eyes shut and brain turned off. When your science starts with an assumption of naturalism, you are ruling out any possibility of supernatural cause. They will explain away stuff of witch doctors with tricks of the light, drug use, mass hysteria and hypnosis, and tricks of the subconcious, which is doing it a serious injustice.
You say there is no solid proof for its existence, I say there is no proof for its non-existence and therefore assume it does exist just in case. I think that is a much safer standing, dont you?
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Know someone that's done it? Heard legit stories about it?
The one story that stays with me is a teenage guy that turned up at the local bishops place, pretty much pissing himself asking for help. Turns out he and some friends had being playing with one of these boards and he had asked (while using it himself) when he was going to die. All the bishop could reply is "Well, you've done it now." I don't know if that turned into anything, I heard it from the bishops mouth and I don't think he saw the guy again.
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So how does it 'work' exactly? What actually is happening when such a thing is done?
What your doing is pretty much asking a spirit(s) to play with your mind. Apparently you can order them to leave. I can't remember the last time a spirit took orders from a human though.
I'm with Ionosphere, be very careful of the doors you open.
This is my take of the whole spirit thing. I'm a christian. Therefore I believe in a spiritual world. There are two sides; God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit and the devil and his evil spirits. Nothing else. The bible makes it pretty damn clear that you can't access the holy spirit through a ouija board. The way to God and the Holy Spirit is clearly detailed in the bible. There is no other way. Essentially, any spiritiual reference that does not involve God is either charlatan or reference to evil spirits disguised in whatever guise they choose, be it previous family or trees or statues or ouija boards/subconcious or whatever. So if I could give my strongest warning, it would be this: you're playing with fire.
Apologies for quoting a massive page of text again, but Lilley - this is such a powerful post. Informative - not because you necessarily have any more experience with this than anyone else - but just the logical thought and approach to the subject.
I am going to spend a lot of time reading about spirit and spirit related activity (not intentionally searching for 'spooky' stories). It's pretty damn interesting. I will drop the ouija board idea as well. I'm not saying one way or another whether I really believe in spirits (I'm not even sure what they are/are supposed to be), but that nagging possibilty, however small it is, - even though I know it's not logical - that nagging possibilty that I could be messing with some serious shit - it's enough to conjure some respect.
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 11:42:54
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....yeh, Ouija Boards.
'tis said, "Knock and the door will be opened".
I say, be careful of the doors you knock on.
Unless you want to 'knock' 1 out 
Make sure the door is locked.
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