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Future_Shock
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 Posted - 2010/05/14 : 12:22:25
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Horror in general is an absolutely terrible genre. I think the only people it really appeals to is teenagers.
I never liked the genre, just seems so dumb. I prefer zombie movies
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Originally posted by Lilley:
alien was an awesome movie. So was predator. Predator wasn't really horror though. Exorcism of Emily Rose was a pretty cool movie as well, that one was seriously freaky.
Horror, by strict definition, is basically just gore. Horror in the film industry is meant to convey that sort of thing. The films that leave you mentally uncomfortable (he exorcism of emily rose) are called psychological thrillers.
Of course, it's possible for the to be a mesh and have a horror/thriller, but you'll find people who actually KNOW what they're talking about with film, will classify it in this way.
If it leaves you feeling uncomfortable/unsettled, psychological thriller. If there's lots of gore, and it's for shock value, horror.
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DJ Specimen
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 13:24:56
I don't really think you can have a "horror" without it also being a "psychological thriller"
Gore is only scary because it unsettles people. Moreover, horror films aren't just people being thrown in a meat grinder for two hours, they exploit key fears that most people have. For instance, being chased, darkness, mental instability, and so on. The Saw movies exploit the common fear of being abducted and waking up in a strange place, gore handles the rest of the scary part. As far as I know, every horror movie starts by exploiting some silly fear that most people have, and taking it as extreme as possible by blowing it totally out of the common realm. That's the part that's generally scary, the "it could happen to me" factor.
Then again, perhaps you meant to say exactly that, that all horror films are "psychological thrillers" with gore , and true "psychological thrillers" merely lack the gory part.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 14:59:54
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I don't really think you can have a "horror" without it also being a "psychological thriller"
Not so; there are many horror films that are just so silly that it's impossible to take them seriously thus impossible for it to have an impact psychologically.
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 17:32:48
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Horror in general is an absolutely terrible genre. I think the only people it really appeals to is teenagers.
I never liked the genre, just seems so dumb. I prefer zombie movies
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Originally posted by Lilley:
alien was an awesome movie. So was predator. Predator wasn't really horror though. Exorcism of Emily Rose was a pretty cool movie as well, that one was seriously freaky.
Horror, by strict definition, is basically just gore.
not true. horror is what is used to categorize all scary/horror type movies.
gore specifically is "scary" movies depicting physical injuries that showcase a lot of blood, flesh, brain, and/or bone. pretty much like the Saw series and Hostel. These movies arent' really that scary, just creep you the fuk out.
gore is also known as splatter films or torture porn
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jenks
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 22:18:02
Drag me to Hell is the only decent horror film that's come out in years IMO.
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2010/05/14 : 23:40:15
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Horror in general is an absolutely terrible genre. I think the only people it really appeals to is teenagers.
I never liked the genre, just seems so dumb. I prefer zombie movies
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Originally posted by Lilley:
alien was an awesome movie. So was predator. Predator wasn't really horror though. Exorcism of Emily Rose was a pretty cool movie as well, that one was seriously freaky.
Horror, by strict definition, is basically just gore.
not true. horror is what is used to categorize all scary/horror type movies.
gore specifically is "scary" movies depicting physical injuries that showcase a lot of blood, flesh, brain, and/or bone. pretty much like the Saw series and Hostel. These movies arent' really that scary, just creep you the fuk out.
gore is also known as splatter films or torture porn
Have you ever studied film? because that's not what i was ever taught, nor in any of our texts is it explained like that, so i'm afraid i'm going to have to disagree with you man.
The perfect example of a horror film is the Saw series. It uses graphic scenes for the blatant effect to shock the viewer. It's meant to make you feel disgust, amongst other things.
I think what you're getting confused about, is that a lot of horror films are part thriller. They're a horror/thriller hybrid. The films that have gore, but plenty of those unnerving scenes, where you don't know what's going to happen and it makes you creeped out - THAT's the thriller aspect of it. It's psychological as opposed to in your face shock value.
The exorcism of emily rose is almost to a tee, the definition of a psychological thriller.
But of course, this doesn't matter in the slightest because most people don't know the difference, and in public you could say "horror" to anyone and they'd know what you mean.
But trust me for someone who's studied it, it's even annoying when you're looking through a video shop trying to find a film you know is in the thriller genre, and they've stuck it in horror. LOL
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Posted - 2010/05/15 : 00:08:41
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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I don't really think you can have a "horror" without it also being a "psychological thriller"
Not so; there are many horror films that are just so silly that it's impossible to take them seriously thus impossible for it to have an impact psychologically.
I feel like that's due to incompetence of directors/writers. I'm not saying zombie strippers or attack of the killer tomatoes were good movies, but they DID make some attempt to be psychologically impacting; they just faceplanted. Horribly.
Also, because of the fact that they're so cliche and outdated now, classic movies like frakenstein that USED to be scary now just appear "silly" and therefore have no thrilling, psychological effects.
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Posted - 2010/05/15 : 00:21:43
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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I don't really think you can have a "horror" without it also being a "psychological thriller"
Not so; there are many horror films that are just so silly that it's impossible to take them seriously thus impossible for it to have an impact psychologically.
I feel like that's due to incompetence of directors/writers. I'm not saying zombie strippers or attack of the killer tomatoes were good movies, but they DID make some attempt to be psychologically impacting; they just faceplanted. Horribly.
Also, because of the fact that they're so cliche and outdated now, classic movies like frakenstein that USED to be scary now just appear "silly" and therefore have no thrilling, psychological effects.
i love how off tangent these topics get :D
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Posted - 2010/05/15 : 00:34:35
Ism't it the greatest? lol
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Posted - 2010/05/15 : 03:23:33
Black Sheep for the win
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Posted - 2010/05/16 : 00:40:41
i've just watched Paranormal activity tonight, what a load of crap, why do people believe in ouija boards to communicate to the dead anyway? Its 2010 why can't ghosts get a laptop like the rest of us?
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Posted - 2010/05/16 : 17:19:46
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i've just watched Paranormal activity tonight, what a load of crap, why do people believe in ouija boards to communicate to the dead anyway? Its 2010 why can't ghosts get a laptop like the rest of us?
You know sort of in relation to this, but not really directed at you. I find it funny that when people (anyone, nobody in particular) say they don't like a film (when a lot of other people do/it was successful at the box office) that they automatically assume they're right and the box office statistics, and other people are wrong. Is it not possible that you simply aren't the right person for that film - or what i personally really think - you're just missing something from the film that other people saw?
I don't mean that literally, however, i've always found you can measure some level of people's intelligence by the films they can understand, sorry, that they can enjoy.
Maybe you just don't have an imagination.
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Posted - 2010/05/16 : 22:51:48
This most certainly explains mainstream music and television! I obviously am missing the eccentricities of Flavor Of Love and Big Brother.
Maybe I don't have an imagination?
Or no wait, maybe people in general are far less picky about their media?
I think I've stumbled on to something here!
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Posted - 2010/05/17 : 10:48:27
Hah sorry Andy mate but I really don't think Paranormal activity is the sort of deep film that only intelligent people could enjoy. I didn't miss anything in it, I just thought it was absolutely rubbish. Of course people are entitled to their own opinion of the film and I wouldn't think of measuring their intelligence based on that opinion. I may mock them for their appalling bad taste however. ;)
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This most certainly explains mainstream music and television! I obviously am missing the eccentricities of Flavor Of Love and Big Brother.
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Posted - 2010/05/17 : 21:19:06
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Hah sorry Andy mate but I really don't think Paranormal activity is the sort of deep film that only intelligent people could enjoy. I didn't miss anything in it, I just thought it was absolutely rubbish. Of course people are entitled to their own opinion of the film and I wouldn't think of measuring their intelligence based on that opinion. I may mock them for their appalling bad taste however. ;)
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This most certainly explains mainstream music and television! I obviously am missing the eccentricities of Flavor Of Love and Big Brother.
But see that's my point, how could some people be absolutely scared shitless, and other people be bored shitless? My only thought could be something like intelligence... being too intelligent and not imaginitive enough (being too critical, analytical etc).
This is basically what i was trying to convey the first time. Don't know why it came out a lot easier this time lol
This isn't just in relation to paranormal activity, but all films in general. How come there are some films that some people will LOVE and others will HATE? People will say, sure, different tastes - but what does that even MEAN, is what i'm trying to get at.
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