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what killed hardcore in 1999?

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Wilky
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Posted - 2010/08/29 :  11:40:53  Show profile  Visit Wilky's homepage  Reply with quote
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WHAT ACTUALLY KILLED HARDCORE IN 19991 WAS PEOPLE MOANING & BITCHING ABOUT IT AND NOT ENJOYING IT FOR WHAT IT IS.....



how can you predict the future?



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Posted - 2010/08/29 :  12:23:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Wilky:
WHAT ACTUALLY KILLED HARDCORE IN 19991 WAS PEOPLE MOANING & BITCHING ABOUT IT AND NOT ENJOYING IT FOR WHAT IT IS.....



but in 19995 it made a come back


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Originally posted by kathryn:
what killed hardcore in 1999?>>>Probably trance and it's goodness



Very true. Trance was a force alright & was the peak of Dance music IMO hence why Freeform is my favorite kinda Hardcore.



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Posted - 2010/08/29 :  13:39:55  Show profile  Visit Wilky's homepage  Reply with quote
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WHAT ACTUALLY KILLED HARDCORE IN 19991 WAS PEOPLE MOANING & BITCHING ABOUT IT AND NOT ENJOYING IT FOR WHAT IT IS.....



but in 19995 it made a come back



it all depends on what one calls hardcore...

id sya all the stuff kutski plays on radio 1 is hardcore... yet most on here would argue that hardstyle isnt hardcore...


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Posted - 2010/08/29 :  15:11:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Wilky:

id sya all the stuff kutski plays on radio 1 is hardcore... yet most on here would argue that hardstyle isnt hardcore...



i don't see hardstyle fitting into anywhere else better than hardcore, altho i don't think i'd want to associate jumpstyle with hardcore either lol. i think the majority consider it a genre all its own


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Hardstyle most definitely is not Hardcore, good god lol. Although that just shows how bad its gotten doesn't it? Really shows how many people actually listened to Hardstyle before it came a joke.



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Posted - 2010/08/29 :  15:21:31  Show profile  Visit Wilky's homepage  Reply with quote
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Hardstyle most definitely is not Hardcore, good god lol. Although that just shows how bad its gotten doesn't it? Really shows how many people actually listened to Hardstyle before it came a joke.



you've read my post completely wrong dude!!!



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Hardstyle most definitely is not Hardcore, good god lol. Although that just shows how bad its gotten doesn't it? Really shows how many people actually listened to Hardstyle before it came a joke.



you've read my post completely wrong dude!!!




It wasn't your post i was responding to :P


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Hardstyle most definitely is not Hardcore, good god lol. Although that just shows how bad its gotten doesn't it? Really shows how many people actually listened to Hardstyle before it came a joke.



you've read my post completely wrong dude!!!




It wasn't your post i was responding to :P



im the only person who mentioned hardstyle... lol



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WHAT ACTUALLY KILLED HARDCORE IN 19991 WAS PEOPLE MOANING & BITCHING ABOUT IT AND NOT ENJOYING IT FOR WHAT IT IS.....



but in 19995 it made a come back



it all depends on what one calls hardcore...

id sya all the stuff kutski plays on radio 1 is hardcore... yet most on here would argue that hardstyle isnt hardcore...



A cousin maybe? Like Hip Hop & RnB are cousins?


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Posted - 2010/08/29 :  16:47:11  Show profile  Visit Wilky's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
WHAT ACTUALLY KILLED HARDCORE IN 19991 WAS PEOPLE MOANING & BITCHING ABOUT IT AND NOT ENJOYING IT FOR WHAT IT IS.....



but in 19995 it made a come back



it all depends on what one calls hardcore...

id sya all the stuff kutski plays on radio 1 is hardcore... yet most on here would argue that hardstyle isnt hardcore...



A cousin maybe? Like Hip Hop & RnB are cousins?



hip hop & rnb are practically the same thing


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Posted - 2010/08/29 :  18:56:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Ken Masters's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
WHAT ACTUALLY KILLED HARDCORE IN 19991 WAS PEOPLE MOANING & BITCHING ABOUT IT AND NOT ENJOYING IT FOR WHAT IT IS.....



but in 19995 it made a come back



it all depends on what one calls hardcore...

id sya all the stuff kutski plays on radio 1 is hardcore... yet most on here would argue that hardstyle isnt hardcore...



A cousin maybe? Like Hip Hop & RnB are cousins?



hip hop & rnb are practically the same thing



mabey these days they have something in common. Their s**t!! But in their early days, very different genres & f**kin awesome genres at that. Greed & thirst for money has now ruined them both.



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mabey these days they have something in common. Their s**t!! But in their early days, very different genres & f**kin awesome genres at that. Greed & thirst for money has now ruined them both.



Is the same happening to Hardcore do we think?


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not so much because Hardcore's been given a 2nd chance & I think most of the main players in the scene have learned from what happened before.

There seems to be a lot more of the big names taking a back seat now & letting the young talent shine through, & not only that but teaching them tricks of the trade. for example Sharkey


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not so much because Hardcore's been given a 2nd chance & I think most of the main players in the scene have learned from what happened before.

There seems to be a lot more of the big names taking a back seat now & letting the young talent shine through, & not only that but teaching them tricks of the trade. for example Sharkey



Sharkey is one of the good guys though, always has been good for Hardcore & I have never had a bad word to say about him. He was half of the original Bonkers after all. Shame there is no Dutch Freeform though don't you think?


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