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Hoodzie
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Posted - 2011/01/03 :  16:31:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hoodzie's homepage  Reply with quote
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Dante
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Posted - 2011/01/03 :  16:35:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dante's homepage  Reply with quote
Jonny L - Hurt You So always chills me out. More people should make rave breaks.

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Hoodzie
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Posted - 2011/01/03 :  16:40:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hoodzie's homepage  Reply with quote
or chillout trance! :)



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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/01/03 :  16:42:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Dante:
Jonny L - Hurt You So always chills me out. More people should make rave breaks.



Oh my. Don't tell me you have only heard a rave breaks version of that huge classic?


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Dante
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Posted - 2011/01/03 :  18:07:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dante's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Dante:
Jonny L - Hurt You So always chills me out. More people should make rave breaks.



Oh my. Don't tell me you have only heard a rave breaks version of that huge classic?



Nah, I've heard several versions from 92-93, a garage mix from late 90s or something, and a hardscape mix. The 'full' mix on YoYo!/Tuch Wood that I have on vinyl is my favourite, however. Haven't heard any modern rave breaks versions if that's what you meant?


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Gisbo
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Posted - 2011/01/03 :  18:46:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Gisbo's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
SE1 = MC's Static & Enemy.



two top mc's


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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/01/03 :  20:22:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dante:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Dante:
Jonny L - Hurt You So always chills me out. More people should make rave breaks.



Oh my. Don't tell me you have only heard a rave breaks version of that huge classic?



Nah, I've heard several versions from 92-93, a garage mix from late 90s or something, and a hardscape mix. The 'full' mix on YoYo!/Tuch Wood that I have on vinyl is my favourite, however. Haven't heard any modern rave breaks versions if that's what you meant?


You mentioned that tune then Rave Breaks, meaning you meant it was Rave Breaks, otherwise it makes no sense :P


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Dante
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Posted - 2011/01/03 :  20:50:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dante's homepage  Reply with quote
Oh right, should've phrased it differently I guess, or made it more clear that I don't think that track is rave breaks.

Hardcore breaks at 140bpm made these days are usually called rave breaks or nu rave, that's why I said more people should make them :p More people should make breaks inspired by early 90s style hardcore breaks, or something. I hope you get the picture ^^


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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2011/01/03 :  21:57:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
Gisbo is quite Happy go lucky i think

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Gisbo
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Posted - 2011/01/04 :  17:30:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Gisbo's homepage  Reply with quote
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Gisbo is quite Happy go lucky i think



didnt get that olly?


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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/01/04 :  17:32:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
He is that that he thinks your 'happy go lucky'.



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DJ_Kid_Nickles
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Posted - 2011/01/04 :  18:46:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_Kid_Nickles's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Thumpa:
Sorry only just looked at this and I'd forgotten I made the post. If people want my honest opinion, then sorry Gisbo but your production is a long, LONG way off. I went on your soundcloud just to have a listen to your new tracks but the first tune made my cringeometer explode. What are the vocals about in this track? http://soundcloud.com/gisbo/gisbo-skyz-real-raverbaby-raving-will-never-end

That track is terrible mate, sorry but it is. The vocals are absolutely awful and I think in a few years you will listen to them and think 'what the **** was I thinking?'

The problem with the internet is, all it takes is a few fanboys saying that a producer is great and the guy is gonna believe the hype. I don't make music myself and wouldn't ever start, but what I do have is an ear for good music. I can sort out the wheat from the chaff anytime, and unfortunately hardcore is absolutely full of chaff at the moment.

I admire the fact that you make a lot of music, but I think you should find your own sound and perfect your production before you put clips up. Quality over quantity any day. Your production needs thickening up and your style needs something that separates it from the rest of the generic 'not as good as Raverbaby' stuff out there, because there is so much of it about at the moment. I'm sure you're not trying to actively copy anyone else, but it sounds like you are.

I'm not here to argue at all, and of course you can tell me to piss off, but if you put clips up on soundcloud then you will have to deal with negative feedback, after all surely that's why you put tracks up? Feedback?

Also, I had a quick look at your album and there are far too many rips on there. Anyone can take an accepalla and put some gay riff behind it. It doesn't take any great skill and in a few months it will be instantly forgettable unfortunately. Do you want to be instantly forgettable, a shooting star that fizzles out after a few months, or do you want to be a respected producer? Not respected by the fanboys, but respected by the major labels, producers and promoters? If you are only making music for 'fun' then no worries, forget everything I've said, but if you want people to say 'that Gisbo is alright man' then I think you should sit back, spend time on a track and improve your production.

Anyway, I'm not up for arguing but I wanted to have my say and I never shy away from it. I am a good guy who runs a label cos I care about this music, so please don't think I am being blunt for the sake of it.



Honestly, PISS THE **** OFF Thumpa! YOU INFURIATE ME! You obivously have no ****ing clue what the hell you're talking about! If Gisbo's stuff wasn't up to par/on point, DO YOU REALLY THINK HE'D BE SIGNED TO LABELS (yes labels!!! MEANING MORE THAN ONE cause you're helmet ass most likely can't count) OR THAT EVEN HOODZIE WOULD GIVE HIM PROPS? You dropped out of the scene for 12 months? Well if you're going to trash talk everyone in your scene, and TRASH up and coming dj's and/or producers, then maybe you don't DESERVE to be part of the scene, ever think of that shit face? Maybe you're just another one of those shallow/jaded ass heads who only goes to events for the drugs? You know NOTHING about hardcore, and if you did, you would be producing yourself. And "not as good as Raverbaby"? Common now, Raverbaby may have been a good label back in the day, but even though they are still around, it's not a label that's as strong as it used to be (needs to make room for the NEW labels that are coming out and trying to make an impression on the hardcore scene). It's all about hardcore TODAY, not yesterday. People need to move over and make way for the upcomers and the new generation of hardcore producers, for if it wasn't for them, hardcore would surely die off (by the way that you act and the things that you say Thumpa, you SURELY want it to fail both as a scene, and as a genre). Hardcore is not about negativity or the bad things in life. or about putting other people down (if you wanted that kind of garbage, you should listen to gabber instead of hardcore). And if all you want to do is shit talk people and put them down for doing things MORE THAN LIKELY BETTER THAN YOU EVER COULD, or even things that you know nothing about, go to another forum. There are better ways to offer constructive criticism that straight putting down someone. You say alot of producers today can't even carry a tune in a bucket? Well, lets see you do better mate! Don't see/hear of you being signed to MULTIPLE labels. And if you're not here to argue, then why the hell did you start an argument? You make no sense. I guess someone just needs to buy you a new helmet (the kind with reflectors, mirrors, and lights, you know the kind you wear when you go bike riding at night?) and take you back to the group home that you escaped from. And one more thing, if you're not producing, then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU RUNNING A LABEL?

Sorry ahead of time to EVERYONE for such unprofessional behavior/language...


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Edited by - DJ_Kid_Nickles on 2011/01/04 19:11:57
DJ_Kid_Nickles
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Posted - 2011/01/04 :  18:49:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_Kid_Nickles's homepage  Reply with quote
One more thing, to answer the ORIGINAL question of the forum:

1) GISBO
2) Hoodzie
3) Rescue

With honorable mentions of RSR Boys, Xtasea, Cat Like Thief, Luminate, Ganar, and 4orce.




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DJ_Kid_Nickles
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Posted - 2011/01/04 :  19:01:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_Kid_Nickles's homepage  Reply with quote
and sorry to Hoodzie in advance for adding "fuel to the fire" so to speak



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Mortis
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Posted - 2011/01/04 :  19:25:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DJ_Kid_Nickles:
And one more thing, if you're not producing, then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU RUNNING A LABEL?




You don't have to be a producer to own a label you know


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