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tru bass
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 Posted - 2010/12/18 : 12:19:42
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Has anyone else tried Salvia?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum
trying it for the first time tonight!
Bought some from a shop in manchester, 15x, i'm expecting great things!
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 12:53:20
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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I quite dislike the stoner lifestyle, and weed itself got very lame after awhile, happy I stoped
Define 'stoner lifestyle'
Please?
Where life is just about the next time you can smoke weed and little else.
yup thats exactly what it was. not to mention the cost, not just the weed but you end up buying pipes and bongs and vaporizers and all this useless shit
of all the money I spent over those years I could have take an awesome vacation
and it makes you complacent, it makes you okay with how ****ing dull everyday life is.
I completely dissagree with this suggestion that stoners don't do anything!
My friends and I smoke weed everyday, we are all at great universities studying great subjects, we went on a road trip last summer in which we travelled across europe for two weeks, we actively take part in clubs and teams, we have plenty of money of which we've earned ourselves in jobs, we have just organised a holiday to greece next year (completely self funded) and we have spent a grand total of 50 between us on paraphernalia.
When you compare this to some of my friends who drink you find that they have spent LOADS more money than us (I've heard countless stories of people's university grant being spent on drinks in the first few months) and contribute a minute amount to society. Half of the people i "live" (unwillingly share a flat) with go out EVERY night, without fail and all they ****ing talk about is getting drunk! I think this barrage towards people who smoke weed is PATHETIC, we smoke weed everyday and i would say that my life has been considerably better since i've replaced two nights out a week drinking for having a cone everyday.
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JayHH86
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 12:54:55
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Originally posted by tru bass:
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Originally posted by JayHH86:
Has anyone else tried Salvia?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum
trying it for the first time tonight!
Bought some from a shop in manchester, 15x, i'm expecting great things!
15 x will be nice. I think my first time was with 20 and that sent me a bit loopy lol. The second time I did 10 and it was fine. It goes up to x100. I'm never trying anything above 30 I don't think.
How are you going to take it? Don't, whatever you do, put it in a joint and smoke it like a spliff. It has to be a small-ish bong with some water at the bottom. Take a big as a hit as you can, hold it in, and count to 45 seconds. By the time you exhale you should be in another world - literally.
Time perception with it is weird. My tips tend to feel like 30 seconds, but they're actually about 10 to 15 minutes. Make sure you've got a pal with ya that's not doing it. We first tried it all in a big group of about seven or eight - and it just doesn't work at all. For best results, needs to be you and one other person.
I wrote a trip report a few years ago - the day after I did it. I'll try dig it out.
Let me know how it goes tonight man! Be interested to here. The trip itself is short, but the hours after are just filled with thoughts of "Oh my god - what the **** happened? That shit is INSANE!"
So glad it's legal.
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 12:57:32
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I completely dissagree with this suggestion that stoners don't do anything!
It's not true for everyone. The comment was aimed at the ones that don't.
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 13:38:50
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I completely dissagree with this suggestion that stoners don't do anything!
It's not true for everyone. The comment was aimed at the ones that don't.
You're effectively saying the stoner way of life is dependant on the person and not the drug, I completely agree.
and to jay, We've got a large bong which we were told should be alright.. What is the big problem with rolling it in a spliff btw, I don't particularly understand it? and yeah i'll definitely report in what happens!
ps. i've heard you don't put water in the bong for it to work properly, have you experienced this?
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 17:06:45
a) We tried it in a joint a few years before we tried it properly. We didn't really know what it was, and we thought if we smoked it like weed it'd be all good. It had zero effect except for making us extra tired.
b) We did it with water in the bong, but maybe it's OK without it. The point about the bong is that you're doing it pure, and you're getting a huge, pure inhalation. You'll know if you're doing it wrong because you'll be like "What's all the fuss about, this is bleak".
Trust me - the key is the holding in of the breath after a big hit. The longer you hold in, the more messed up you get.
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 18:22:21
I wouldn't want to try inhaling it without water. It's incredibly harsh on the lungs. Massive hit is required, inhale all the smoke from the plant material.
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 20:22:10
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by v-act:
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Originally posted by H3RO:
I personally hate anything and everything to do with drugs. I've seen what they do to people, people that I've been close to and I have yet to see anything good come out of doing drugs.
Same here. I think it's sad to see people doing drugs.
Have you ever tried any?
yeah but sometimes the first recreational drug you might dabble in could kill you first time 
yeah it would be sad to dismiss something without your own experience
but you cant just say "drugs" are we putting coffee and methadone in the same catagory here?
to me theres a big difference between stuff like LSD and MDMA and stuff like cocaine and heroin
I personaly think that the right drug at the right time can really benefit your life
and dont we all die in the end? why not have some fun
yeah but the first recreational drug you might take could kill you
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 20:50:05
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I wouldn't want to try inhaling it without water. It's incredibly harsh on the lungs. Massive hit is required, inhale all the smoke from the plant material.
lol i remember having a bucket about 16 years ago before kids and i couldnt move of the floor lol weed is giggle tackle for me aswell. Not smoked it for years
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 20:51:56
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by v-act:
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Originally posted by H3RO:
I personally hate anything and everything to do with drugs. I've seen what they do to people, people that I've been close to and I have yet to see anything good come out of doing drugs.
Same here. I think it's sad to see people doing drugs.
Have you ever tried any?
yeah but sometimes the first recreational drug you might dabble in could kill you first time
yeah it would be sad to dismiss something without your own experience
but you cant just say "drugs" are we putting coffee and methadone in the same catagory here?
to me theres a big difference between stuff like LSD and MDMA and stuff like cocaine and heroin
I personaly think that the right drug at the right time can really benefit your life
and dont we all die in the end? why not have some fun
yeah but the first recreational drug you might take could kill you
I hope that was sarcastic
but sure, it's true there are risks, you have to find people you trust, or at least seem trustworthy. dont go buy pills from some random guy off the street
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 20:57:10
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by v-act:
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Originally posted by H3RO:
I personally hate anything and everything to do with drugs. I've seen what they do to people, people that I've been close to and I have yet to see anything good come out of doing drugs.
Same here. I think it's sad to see people doing drugs.
Have you ever tried any?
yeah but sometimes the first recreational drug you might dabble in could kill you first time
yeah it would be sad to dismiss something without your own experience
but you cant just say "drugs" are we putting coffee and methadone in the same catagory here?
to me theres a big difference between stuff like LSD and MDMA and stuff like cocaine and heroin
I personaly think that the right drug at the right time can really benefit your life
and dont we all die in the end? why not have some fun
yeah but the first recreational drug you might take could kill you
I hope that was sarcastic
but sure, it's true there are risks, you have to find people you trust, or at least seem trustworthy. dont go buy pills from some random guy off the street
well unlike drugs perscribed buy a doctor or bought over the counter recreational drugs dont come with a box and leaflet telling you whats in it?
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 21:17:15
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by v-act:
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Originally posted by H3RO:
I personally hate anything and everything to do with drugs. I've seen what they do to people, people that I've been close to and I have yet to see anything good come out of doing drugs.
Same here. I think it's sad to see people doing drugs.
Have you ever tried any?
yeah but sometimes the first recreational drug you might dabble in could kill you first time
yeah it would be sad to dismiss something without your own experience
but you cant just say "drugs" are we putting coffee and methadone in the same catagory here?
to me theres a big difference between stuff like LSD and MDMA and stuff like cocaine and heroin
I personaly think that the right drug at the right time can really benefit your life
and dont we all die in the end? why not have some fun
yeah but the first recreational drug you might take could kill you
I hope that was sarcastic
but sure, it's true there are risks, you have to find people you trust, or at least seem trustworthy. dont go buy pills from some random guy off the street
well unlike drugs perscribed buy a doctor or bought over the counter recreational drugs dont come with a box and leaflet telling you whats in it?
Well it's just common sense. You find out from people who have taken the same batch of drugs whether it's legit or not. There is a reason virtually no one dies from such things, and it's because it simply isn't that dangerous. I think a few people die a year from it and even they were probably stupid about it. Compare that to pharmaceutical drugs where thousands of people die a year. Yes more people take them but that doesn't account for the ridiculous numbers. If you don't like illegal drugs then say you don't like illegal drugs, but don't confuse that with them actually being dangerous to anyone with common sense, because the evidence suggests otherwise. There is literally no 2 ways about it. It makes even less sense when you can justify the use of a legal drug that is in the exact same class as the worst illegal ones just because it's legal.
That's not aimed at you specifically but anyway who makes such comments based on pure ignorance and lack of any logic whatsoever. It's even worse that they think they are right when they are in reality so very wrong.
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Posted - 2010/12/18 : 22:19:27
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by v-act:
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Originally posted by H3RO:
I personally hate anything and everything to do with drugs. I've seen what they do to people, people that I've been close to and I have yet to see anything good come out of doing drugs.
Same here. I think it's sad to see people doing drugs.
Have you ever tried any?
yeah but sometimes the first recreational drug you might dabble in could kill you first time
yeah it would be sad to dismiss something without your own experience
but you cant just say "drugs" are we putting coffee and methadone in the same catagory here?
to me theres a big difference between stuff like LSD and MDMA and stuff like cocaine and heroin
I personaly think that the right drug at the right time can really benefit your life
and dont we all die in the end? why not have some fun
yeah but the first recreational drug you might take could kill you
I hope that was sarcastic
but sure, it's true there are risks, you have to find people you trust, or at least seem trustworthy. dont go buy pills from some random guy off the street
well unlike drugs perscribed buy a doctor or bought over the counter recreational drugs dont come with a box and leaflet telling you whats in it?
Well it's just common sense. You find out from people who have taken the same batch of drugs whether it's legit or not. There is a reason virtually no one dies from such things, and it's because it simply isn't that dangerous. I think a few people die a year from it and even they were probably stupid about it. Compare that to pharmaceutical drugs where thousands of people die a year. Yes more people take them but that doesn't account for the ridiculous numbers. If you don't like illegal drugs then say you don't like illegal drugs, but don't confuse that with them actually being dangerous to anyone with common sense, because the evidence suggests otherwise. There is literally no 2 ways about it. It makes even less sense when you can justify the use of a legal drug that is in the exact same class as the worst illegal ones just because it's legal.
That's not aimed at you specifically but anyway who makes such comments based on pure ignorance and lack of any logic whatsoever. It's even worse that they think they are right when they are in reality so very wrong.
agree completely
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Posted - 2010/12/19 : 12:28:31
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by v-act:
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Originally posted by H3RO:
I personally hate anything and everything to do with drugs. I've seen what they do to people, people that I've been close to and I have yet to see anything good come out of doing drugs.
Same here. I think it's sad to see people doing drugs.
Have you ever tried any?
yeah but sometimes the first recreational drug you might dabble in could kill you first time
yeah it would be sad to dismiss something without your own experience
but you cant just say "drugs" are we putting coffee and methadone in the same catagory here?
to me theres a big difference between stuff like LSD and MDMA and stuff like cocaine and heroin
I personaly think that the right drug at the right time can really benefit your life
and dont we all die in the end? why not have some fun
yeah but the first recreational drug you might take could kill you
I hope that was sarcastic
but sure, it's true there are risks, you have to find people you trust, or at least seem trustworthy. dont go buy pills from some random guy off the street
That's the problem, all the dealers seem very "friendly" in order 2 attract customers. Some of them deceive people for months pretending to be their best friends.
Its all about money, though...
Except if u know some1 who sells homemade drugs. Homemade weed! ^_^ too bad I cant stand the smoke
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Posted - 2010/12/19 : 20:16:32
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Originally posted by cruelcore1:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by v-act:
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Originally posted by H3RO:
I personally hate anything and everything to do with drugs. I've seen what they do to people, people that I've been close to and I have yet to see anything good come out of doing drugs.
Same here. I think it's sad to see people doing drugs.
Have you ever tried any?
yeah but sometimes the first recreational drug you might dabble in could kill you first time
yeah it would be sad to dismiss something without your own experience
but you cant just say "drugs" are we putting coffee and methadone in the same catagory here?
to me theres a big difference between stuff like LSD and MDMA and stuff like cocaine and heroin
I personaly think that the right drug at the right time can really benefit your life
and dont we all die in the end? why not have some fun
yeah but the first recreational drug you might take could kill you
I hope that was sarcastic
but sure, it's true there are risks, you have to find people you trust, or at least seem trustworthy. dont go buy pills from some random guy off the street
That's the problem, all the dealers seem very "friendly" in order 2 attract customers. Some of them deceive people for months pretending to be their best friends.
No one with a clue about anything would want to be friends with a dealer let alone think that there is even the potential there to be friends. No one actually likes dealers, they just happen to have what we want.
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