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Samination
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 09:28:26
quote: Originally posted by djDMS:
If you don't stop arguing i'm going to hunt you all down and punch you in the head. SERIOUSLY!
wrongfully quoting Neko here: "This is a forum, and it's on the internet. It's made for arguing. Now GTFO and make me dinner bitch".
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 12:02:35
quote: Originally posted by djDMS:
If you don't stop arguing i'm going to hunt you all down and punch you in the head. SERIOUSLY!
HOW DARE YOU THAT IS UNACCAPETABLE AND I'M NOT HAVING THAT BEHAVIOUR HERE.
i talk to jay more than anybody else here.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 13:25:54
quote: Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
quote: Originally posted by Luna-C:
As for Gammer, sounds like he was having a laugh, but should have been more careful with his words because there are a lot of stupid people out there who listen to what he says. He shouldn't expect people to "get" him as nuance doesn't travel well online.
THIS.
THIS. again. People will try tearing down every point I make and taking the piss but when Luna-C says something it gets swept under the carpet. Very telling.
1) People hang onto Gammer's words
2) Some people are stupid and will take those words seriously enough to carry out threats if he makes one.
3) As evidenced by the comments, some people were already taking it seriously. (And I wasn't the only one to notice.)
4) The hardcore scene can be very hostile and violent genre-fights often break out.
5) Thus, I don't think making threats is a good idea in the hardcore scene when you're an influential producer.
^ 1-4 is fact, 5 is my conclusion. You can get angry and choose to hate me if you want, but it really is that simple, I'm cutting away all the arguments about the nature of a threat here seeing as clearly we can go on about that forever. I'm not saying GAMMER CAUSED THE HOLOCAUST or GAMMER CAUSED 9/11 like some people seem to make out. I'm simply stating fact and I think I came to a very reasonable conclusion.
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 14:06:47
quote: Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
quote: Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
quote: Originally posted by Luna-C:
As for Gammer, sounds like he was having a laugh, but should have been more careful with his words because there are a lot of stupid people out there who listen to what he says. He shouldn't expect people to "get" him as nuance doesn't travel well online.
THIS.
THIS. again. People will try tearing down every point I make and taking the piss but when Luna-C says something it gets swept under the carpet. Very telling.
1) People hang onto Gammer's words
2) Some people are stupid and will take those words seriously enough to carry out threats if he makes one.
3) As evidenced by the comments, some people were already taking it seriously. (And I wasn't the only one to notice.)
4) The hardcore scene can be very hostile and violent genre-fights often break out.
5) Thus, I don't think making threats is a good idea in the hardcore scene when you're an influential producer.
^ 1-4 is fact, 5 is my conclusion. You can get angry and choose to hate me if you want, but it really is that simple, I'm cutting away all the arguments about the nature of a threat here seeing as clearly we can go on about that forever. I'm not saying GAMMER CAUSED THE HOLOCAUST or GAMMER CAUSED 9/11 like some people seem to make out. I'm simply stating fact and I think I came to a very reasonable conclusion.
Yeah dude that's all reasonable and logical (and i agree) but you were a lot more emotional and hysterical about it initially. I mean, you said you lost all respect for him lol... Do you not think you were a little over the top?
I don't even know why we're talking about this i don't even like hardcore any more. I come here for dean and jay..........together, if possible.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 14:48:26
quote: Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote: Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
quote: Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
quote: Originally posted by Luna-C:
As for Gammer, sounds like he was having a laugh, but should have been more careful with his words because there are a lot of stupid people out there who listen to what he says. He shouldn't expect people to "get" him as nuance doesn't travel well online.
THIS.
THIS. again. People will try tearing down every point I make and taking the piss but when Luna-C says something it gets swept under the carpet. Very telling.
1) People hang onto Gammer's words
2) Some people are stupid and will take those words seriously enough to carry out threats if he makes one.
3) As evidenced by the comments, some people were already taking it seriously. (And I wasn't the only one to notice.)
4) The hardcore scene can be very hostile and violent genre-fights often break out.
5) Thus, I don't think making threats is a good idea in the hardcore scene when you're an influential producer.
^ 1-4 is fact, 5 is my conclusion. You can get angry and choose to hate me if you want, but it really is that simple, I'm cutting away all the arguments about the nature of a threat here seeing as clearly we can go on about that forever. I'm not saying GAMMER CAUSED THE HOLOCAUST or GAMMER CAUSED 9/11 like some people seem to make out. I'm simply stating fact and I think I came to a very reasonable conclusion.
Yeah dude that's all reasonable and logical (and i agree) but you were a lot more emotional and hysterical about it initially. I mean, you said you lost all respect for him lol... Do you not think you were a little over the top?
I don't even know why we're talking about this i don't even like hardcore any more. I come here for dean and jay..........together, if possible.
Yeah at the start of the thread I'll admit I was, but it wasn't until I posted my first message that Gammer personally mentioned me on twitter and then told everyone he wasn't serious about it on Facebook. I'll admit now I haven't lost ALL respect for him now it's been cleared up a bit but I still think he was stupid for saying it. That was page 1, this is page 10, you could probably dig up a lot of old posts of mine from a year ago and have a go at me about them but you'd find my opinion may have changed on some of them so you'd be wasting your time.
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 14:51:30
quote: Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
i talk to jay more than anybody else here.
I talk to myself more than anyone talks to me. It's happening so regularly now, it's getting worrying. Cooking is when it happens the most.
quote: Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
I don't even know why we're talking about this i don't even like hardcore any more. I come here for dean and jay..........together, if possible.
Ha! Filthy!
quote: Originally posted by Triquatra:
lost all respect for me
I could never lose all respect for you Rowan.
Do you want me to tell you why?
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 14:59:01
Fights don't break out because of something someone read on the internet, they break out because they are idiots. They would do it anyway.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 15:30:06
Got to love this place. No matter what the topic, it always ends up all over the place
yet we still come out of the other side somewhat wiser!
Love you too Andy, please don't be gone for too long....
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 16:45:41
hehe
Is it bad that I don't think that "We Killed The Rave" track is too bad?
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 16:51:21
quote: Originally posted by Triquatra:
hehe
Is it bad that I don't think that "We Killed The Rave" track is too bad?
I've literally just been talking to someone on facebook about that very track. And yes, I like it as well.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 16:54:17
Well in that case, you're both idiots
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 17:00:08
quote: Originally posted by _Jay_:
quote: Originally posted by Triquatra:
hehe
Is it bad that I don't think that "We Killed The Rave" track is too bad?
I've literally just been talking to someone on facebook about that very track. And yes, I like it as well.
Its the best 'dubcore' I've heard yet because it's pretty melodic.
And DMS stop being a UK Hardcore smoogie :p
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 17:03:26
quote: Originally posted by djDMS:
Well in that case, you're both idiots
Erm...says the man who had a couple of these tracks in his latest mix! Naughty hypocrite.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 17:04:18
^ hehe this
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/01/17 : 17:05:29
quote: Originally posted by Triquatra:
hehe
Is it bad that I don't think that "We Killed The Rave" track is too bad?
No i agree. It might borrow heavily from a genre or 2 but it's very well done.
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