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NekoShuffle
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 Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:17:53
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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If I was Gammer I'd be so stressed right now. He honestly seems like a nice guy and here Neko is raving how he caused 9/11 and the Holocaust.
Stop being so hysterical. I made a point and backed it up with evidence because it was relevant. If you actually read my posts properly you'd understand exactly what I meant rather than choosing to hear the worst and jumping to conclusions about me.
Wow what an immature idiot.
Anyway, that's pretty much my respect for Gammer lost
What an absolute idiot
I hope they press charges
I think it's immature and I don't want to be a part of that scene.
I'm not having that shit go on.
Over one comment. I really doubt that because someone read "Punch you in the face" they went out and actually did, otherwise theyd have a hell of a time watcing TV.
Why don't you look yourself? Threats of people hitting people with bricks for their opinion, other people egging it on. The evidence is right there in front of you and if you ever raved in the UK in this day and age you would understand why those words are worrying, we don't need encouragements for violence like that, which is exactly what it did.
There were many many other ways for Gammer to get his point across that wouldn't have caused a reaction like that. It is absolutely immature, just because you don't believe it could happen, refuse to look at evidence from which you posted yourself doesn't mean it isn't happening. And I think it's interesting you should call anyone who takes it seriously a 'shithead' and then completely take my points out of context in order to make me look worse - it speaks volumes about your character when you do this to someone who stands against personal threats in the interest of the personal safety of others.
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:19:53
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by Dys7:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by Dys7:
If I was Gammer I'd be so stressed right now. He honestly seems like a nice guy and here Neko is raving how he caused 9/11 and the Holocaust.
Stop being so hysterical. I made a point and backed it up with evidence because it was relevant. If you actually read my posts properly you'd understand exactly what I meant rather than choosing to hear the worst and jumping to conclusions about me.
Wow what an immature idiot.
Anyway, that's pretty much my respect for Gammer lost
What an absolute idiot
I hope they press charges
I think it's immature and I don't want to be a part of that scene.
I'm not having that shit go on.
Over one comment. I really doubt that because someone read "Punch you in the face" they went out and actually did, otherwise theyd have a hell of a time watcing TV.
Why don't you look yourself? Threats of people hitting people with bricks for their opinion, other people egging it on. The evidence is right there in front of you and if you ever raved in the UK in this day and age you would understand why those words are worrying, we don't need encouragements for violence like that, which is exactly what it did.
There were many many other ways for Gammer to get his point across that wouldn't have caused a reaction like that. It is absolutely immature, just because you don't believe it could happen, refuse to look at evidence from which you posted yourself doesn't mean it isn't happening. And I think it's interesting you should call anyone who takes it seriously a 'shithead' and then completely take my points out of context in order to make me look worse - it speaks volumes about your character when you do this to someone who stands against personal threats in the interest of the personal safety of others.
I had no intention of taking your points out of context - I thought I had pretty accurately taken enough from each quote to get some sort of context. I'll go take a look at Gammers original post, if you're right, you're right.
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:19:59
Im all for a little community drama, but I'm bored now - Really, really bored
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Breakbeat Jon
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:20:06
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Trance synths are very different from dubstep/electro 'filthy bass'. Trance synths can be used to construct hooks and melodies, they can be used in many ways. Dubstep/Electro 'filth' is low end and not half as memorable. I'm not saying that makes it bad or inferior, but it doesn't have the same possibilities as a trance lead and you're not going to be humming a dubstep drop on the way to work. It's like comparing a 4 string Bass Guitar to a 6 string Electric guitar - one cannot replace the other.
your right, but I will be dancing to it a rave, rather than falling asleep to another predictable drawn out trance breakdown. And from a personal perspective I like listening to stuff not necessary based round a big lead. That's just my opinion and my personal taste, as i've said it would be better if djs and compilations mixed up the styles a bit more. As for the Bass guitar comparrison, you ever seen Squarepusher live?
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:26:00
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I had no intention of taking your points out of context - I thought I had pretty accurately taken enough from each quote to get some sort of context. I'll go take a look at Gammers original post, if you're right, you're right.
I had a look through the comments, 4 people said something violent, 1 sounded serious.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:35:13
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Originally posted by Breakbeat Jon:
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Trance synths are very different from dubstep/electro 'filthy bass'. Trance synths can be used to construct hooks and melodies, they can be used in many ways. Dubstep/Electro 'filth' is low end and not half as memorable. I'm not saying that makes it bad or inferior, but it doesn't have the same possibilities as a trance lead and you're not going to be humming a dubstep drop on the way to work. It's like comparing a 4 string Bass Guitar to a 6 string Electric guitar - one cannot replace the other.
your right, but I will be dancing to it a rave, rather than falling asleep to another predictable drawn out trance breakdown. And from a personal perspective I like listening to stuff not necessary based round a big lead. That's just my opinion and my personal taste, as i've said it would be better if djs and compilations mixed up the styles a bit more. As for the Bass guitar comparrison, you ever seen Squarepusher live?
Seen videos yes, but honestly I find his music boring. I'm impressed with what he does with all that hardware though.
Honestly, I'm well over all the trancy stuff too - there are always a few standout tracks coming out but I'm actually bored of it in hardcore, I just don't think you can compare dubstep noise to trance leads so I defend it but really I think hardcore needs to change in a way that isn't just pursuing the latest popular sound, whether it's trance or dubstep or whatever. We need to be completely unique from other genres.
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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:38:13
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
Trance synths are very different from dubstep/electro 'filthy bass'. Trance synths can be used to construct hooks and melodies, they can be used in many ways. Dubstep/Electro 'filth' is low end and not half as memorable. I'm not saying that makes it bad or inferior, but it doesn't have the same possibilities as a trance lead and you're not going to be humming a dubstep drop on the way to work. It's like comparing a 4 string Bass Guitar to a 6 string Electric guitar - one cannot replace the other.
Dubstep/Electro sounds and non-melodic stuff have plenty more options. They are usually based on distortion, ADSRs and automation. More exhausting work than creating a Supersaw and making the melody.
And don't worry about Dubstep. I believe House with minimal drops will hold on longer than its expected. ^^
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:38:31
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It was you wasn't it?
That pissed in the cornflakes?
Yes.
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Breakbeat Jon
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:41:41
your right, I can't see where the next unique thing is coming from. Not just in hardcore, but in dance music in general. Everything's been done to death. Apart the 303 acid sound in teh late 80s and maybe jungle / d'n'b in the 90s there's been nothing truly original for god knows how long. Genre's just morph into each other.
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:44:39
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your right, I can't see where the next unique thing is coming from. Not just in hardcore, but in dance music in general. Everything's been done to death. Apart the 303 acid sound in teh late 80s and maybe jungle / d'n'b in the 90s there's been nothing truly original for god knows how long. Genre's just morph into each other.
And in the end everything gets influenced by Pop (which is not a defined genre) making it commercial alternative. More genres invented the less new possibilities exist. But this isnt the dead end.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:54:03
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I had no intention of taking your points out of context - I thought I had pretty accurately taken enough from each quote to get some sort of context. I'll go take a look at Gammers original post, if you're right, you're right.
I had a look through the comments, 4 people said something violent, 1 sounded serious.
Let's take some quotes shall we?:
"to be fair anyone who even uses the word dubstep anywhere near hardcore NEEDS a punch"
"Chris is the same numpty who said that it was juniors time to die, tbh he's the one that needs to die!"
"Chris boyo your heading for a lynching you better drop it before peeps start getting really pissed with ya!!1"
"This chris wilkinson what a ****ing joke, the sort of person that can give it all the large! But will he ever be man enough to come to a HARDCORE HEAVEN! HTID, UPROAR, RAVERS REUNITED to face any of us n voice his opinion face to face man to man? NO cause he knows were true stompers and there's guaranteed 1000's of us that would like to show him how we stomp! On his head that's my beerrage over"
"on a serious note: chris is entitled to his own opinion. PLUR? my arse when there are ppl here threatening other ravers/hardcore listeners" <-- someone with a bit of sense
"matt - if i hear another person talk to me about dubstep, i will punch them on your behalf... Hardcore rules ..!"
"I'll Hold the ****ers down!!!"
I saw a bunch more, I can't even find the one about the brick so I'm guessing that's been deleted and I also saw one about stabbing someone with broken glass which I think has been deleted too.
This is the thing, if you were around to see the pontins drama kick off you would understand why this is worrying. The pontins incident had people threatening to burn the place down with everyone inside, killing the staff...really nasty shit. I won't tar the hardcore scene with the same brush - a lot of people agreed it was totally out of line. But in principle, this is exactly why I don't approve of threats that can at least be construed as serious, especially when me and my fellow ravers are the ones who will be on the recieving end of it if it does happen.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:57:04
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your right, I can't see where the next unique thing is coming from. Not just in hardcore, but in dance music in general. Everything's been done to death. Apart the 303 acid sound in teh late 80s and maybe jungle / d'n'b in the 90s there's been nothing truly original for god knows how long. Genre's just morph into each other.
Absolutely EXACTLY. Sometimes I wonder if electronic music will really plummet in popularity as a result, I scratch my head considering the new ways electronic music can evolve and it never does, it just borrows from other genres. Maybe rock or punk or something will be the next big thing and a lot of people will forget about electronic music for a while...the future really isn't that bright to be honest.
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 21:32:36
ROFL. I found the comment about Wilky going to a rave to voice his oppinion face to face. Does Gammer need his posse for security just for someone to voice his head off?
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 21:36:26
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by Breakbeat Jon:
your right, I can't see where the next unique thing is coming from. Not just in hardcore, but in dance music in general. Everything's been done to death. Apart the 303 acid sound in teh late 80s and maybe jungle / d'n'b in the 90s there's been nothing truly original for god knows how long. Genre's just morph into each other.
Absolutely EXACTLY. Sometimes I wonder if electronic music will really plummet in popularity as a result, I scratch my head considering the new ways electronic music can evolve and it never does, it just borrows from other genres. Maybe rock or punk or something will be the next big thing and a lot of people will forget about electronic music for a while...the future really isn't that bright to be honest.
I think people have probably been having this conversation every year for the last 30 years. Things will evolve.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 21:54:24
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by Breakbeat Jon:
your right, I can't see where the next unique thing is coming from. Not just in hardcore, but in dance music in general. Everything's been done to death. Apart the 303 acid sound in teh late 80s and maybe jungle / d'n'b in the 90s there's been nothing truly original for god knows how long. Genre's just morph into each other.
Absolutely EXACTLY. Sometimes I wonder if electronic music will really plummet in popularity as a result, I scratch my head considering the new ways electronic music can evolve and it never does, it just borrows from other genres. Maybe rock or punk or something will be the next big thing and a lot of people will forget about electronic music for a while...the future really isn't that bright to be honest.
I think people have probably been having this conversation every year for the last 30 years. Things will evolve.
How?
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