DJ Lawlzy Advanced Member
Canada
520 posts Joined: Oct, 2007
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 19:41:05
It's not Gammer who is the mastermind behind OPERATION: INCITE HARDCORE VIOLENCE... Scott Brown actually gave out the orders
Archefluxx Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,112 posts Joined: Sep, 2011
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 19:43:56
Scott Brown kept the 'violent' side of it very cheesy and happy in the same way "Happy Hardcore" has the words "Happy" juxtaposing with "Hardcore".
Clublands Hardcore actually tries to sound hostile. "Smack you like a bitch", "Killed The Rave" for instance.
Lilark Average Member
United States
211 posts Joined: Nov, 2011
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 19:47:24
quote:Originally posted by Archefluxx:
Scott Brown kept the 'violent' side of it very cheesy and happy in the same way "Happy Hardcore" has the words "Happy" juxtaposing with "Hardcore".
Clublands Hardcore actually tries to sound hostile. "Smack you like a bitch", "Killed The Rave" for instance.
It's almost like people do this to sound "cool". What a bunch of violent losers :P
NekoShuffle Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,480 posts Joined: Nov, 2009
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 19:55:44
I don't want to verge too off-topic with the dubstep/electro argument because I'm not here for that, but here's a rebuttal against a point I hear a lot:
"Trance hardcore wasn't a fad, electro/dubstep hardcore won't be either"
1.
Don't forget that between Happy Hardcore and "Trance Hardcore" there were a few years where Hardcore was VERY directionless. Some people were doing the old happy stuff still (much like people are doing vocal stuff nowadays), and others like UFO were bringing in a lot of Drum n Bass sounds and doing some weird experimental stuff that never really stuck around either, also Vinylgroover was moving away from cheese and doing Hard Dance, but those didn't become the future of hardcore either.
2.
Trance synths are very different from dubstep/electro 'filthy bass'. Trance synths can be used to construct hooks and melodies, they can be used in many ways. Dubstep/Electro 'filth' is low end and not half as memorable. I'm not saying that makes it bad or inferior, but it doesn't have the same possibilities as a trance lead and you're not going to be humming a dubstep drop on the way to work. It's like comparing a 4 string Bass Guitar to a 6 string Electric guitar - one cannot replace the other.
Ken Masters Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,447 posts Joined: Feb, 2007
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 19:57:01
The internet revived the love of the scene in 2000 but it looks like that love has been well & truly killed off.
All it seems to be now a days is bitter little boys & girls venting their anger & trying to give meaning to their pathetic existence.
Since when have guys like Wilky had a voice? The guy can't even mix two tunes together nevermind work a production program.
They can't give anything productive to the scene they "love" so much so in order to get their names recognised they destroy the very scene they supposedly support.
Ok, everyone is entitled to give their opinion but to be so twisted about how you go about it is disgusting. Slating these guys that have given every ounce of their being to get to where they are now.
I sincerely hope something does come of this & he does get whats coming to him & it might go out as a warning to other morons like him, however I seriously doubt anything will come of it.
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Dys7 Advanced Member
United States
1,231 posts Joined: Nov, 2011
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 19:57:43
Alright, jesus guys, I posted this topic just saying Gammers a little mad. I didnt intend for you guys to go "Oh, no! What an absolute horrible puppy kicking bastard. I'm never buying another song by him, and Ive lost all respect for him"
Seriously? Grow some testicles. People say stuff like that ALL THE TIME, and if you can't learn to accept the fact it wasn't intended seriously you're going to sound like an absolute shit head.
If I was Gammer I'd be so stressed right now. He honestly seems like a nice guy and here Neko is raving how he caused 9/11 and the Holocaust.
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The above comment was likely written when I was *literally* 13, so please don't judge me too hard.
NekoShuffle Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,480 posts Joined: Nov, 2009
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 19:59:51
quote:Originally posted by Dys7:
If I was Gammer I'd be so stressed right now. He honestly seems like a nice guy and here Neko is raving how he caused 9/11 and the Holocaust.
Stop being so hysterical. I made a point and backed it up with evidence because it was relevant. If you actually read my posts properly you'd understand exactly what I meant rather than choosing to hear the worst and jumping to conclusions about me.
Dys7 Advanced Member
United States
1,231 posts Joined: Nov, 2011
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:05:43
quote:Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
quote:Originally posted by Dys7:
If I was Gammer I'd be so stressed right now. He honestly seems like a nice guy and here Neko is raving how he caused 9/11 and the Holocaust.
Stop being so hysterical. I made a point and backed it up with evidence because it was relevant. If you actually read my posts properly you'd understand exactly what I meant rather than choosing to hear the worst and jumping to conclusions about me.
Wow what an immature idiot.
Anyway, that's pretty much my respect for Gammer lost
What an absolute idiot
I hope they press charges
I think it's immature and I don't want to be a part of that scene.
I'm not having that shit go on.
Over one comment. I really doubt that because someone read "Punch you in the face" they went out and actually did, otherwise theyd have a hell of a time watcing TV.
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cruelcore1 Advanced Member
Croatia (Hrvatska)
1,485 posts Joined: May, 2010
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:12:37
And I guess now everybody fear Dubby HC.
What rlly sucks is tht people think Dubby Hardcore is necessarily bad. They don't understand they either simply dislike it or were convinced by other people into hating it (don't get me wrong, its completely normal). Dubby Hardcore can sound real badass if u know how 2 make it.
And how can anyone expect a positive reaction when everybody shits on his music!
And, minus for him, whats tht "if ANYONE else compares hardcore to dubstep"? Why is he suppose to be ashamed of influencing SOME of his tracks with Dubstep? Dubstep is some badass shit regardless of its commercialization!
Alert moderatorEdited by - cruelcore1 on 2012/01/16 20:14:48
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,083 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:13:19
And Jimmy Carr is a comedian. I do not see the connection here? He is paid to slate people while Gammer is paid to make music.
The problem with hardcore today is that it doesn't try to use it's heritage enough, but instead copy way much of something that's a hit just now. OK so that might've happened with Happy Hardcore, and the tracnier UK Hardcore, but after a while they start to sound more like Hardcore again.
This is probably a phaze anyways. After a few more albums, these guys probably going to make their dubstep/electro sounds more hardcore again... or fail utterly with music that does not blend like trance does.
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djDMS Advanced Member
United Kingdom
10,304 posts Joined: Feb, 2003
572 hardcore releases
Posted - 2012/01/16 : 20:16:05
quote:Originally posted by Dys7:
Alright, jesus guys, I posted this topic just saying Gammers a little mad
It's all your fault, YOU MONSTER!
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Gammers getting pretty pissed
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 19:30:51
