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DJ Lawlzy
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 Posted - 2012/01/19 : 20:01:55
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
I'm surprised there's no topic for something this important
http://www.happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=56390
Ah, missed it!
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Lilark
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Posted - 2012/01/19 : 20:53:13
SOPA sucks, 'nuff said.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2012/01/19 : 22:11:39
I rather like this quote from the BBC, regarding the recent shut down of MegaUpload
"It begs the question that if you can find and arrest people who are suspected to be involved in piracy using existing laws, then why introduce further regulations which are US-only and potentially damaging."
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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 01:29:46
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Be Happy
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 01:34:37
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
I can see people doing that if this gets passed. 
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 03:01:24
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Originally posted by Be Happy:
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
I can see people doing that if this gets passed.
I've honestly seen people say this whole thing is being orchestrated by the Illuminati.
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Be Happy
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 03:23:08
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I've honestly seen people say this whole thing is being orchestrated by the Illuminati.
People are always quick to jump on the conspiracy theory bandwagon in my opinion, and honestly i'm not surprised that people are claiming that because everything is apparently a conspiracy or has a conspiracy behind it in today's society. Especially in the US because there are tons of people who employ scare tactics and for some reason people willingly believe them.
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Lilark
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 03:46:29
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Originally posted by Be Happy:
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I've honestly seen people say this whole thing is being orchestrated by the Illuminati.
People are always quick to jump on the conspiracy theory bandwagon in my opinion, and honestly i'm not surprised that people are claiming that because everything is apparently a conspiracy or has a conspiracy behind it in today's society. Especially in the US because there are tons of people who employ scare tactics and for some reason people willingly believe them.
Couldn't agree more. People looking for attention spread stupid rumors, it happens. But the ILLUMINATI? That's an interesting one at least xD
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Yoko
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Posted - 2012/01/20 : 08:46:15
I live in the States, my take on the matter is this:
Wikileaks, TPB, and similar sites have been an annoyance of the US government and corporate IP owners for years. Wikileaks caught the US government with it's pants down, and TPB has been raided, taken to court, raided again, but is still up and running. Many US, UK, and Japanese companies have filed lawsuits against TPB, but apparently in Sweden what TPB is doing is not technially against the law. (Correct me if I'm wrong here please.) SOPA is an attempt for the US to go beyond it's physical reach and use the Internet as a conveyance to enforce laws that are US based.
Essentially, SOPA would allow the US government to block websites from coming into the US. As some have said before, it would cut off their funding through services like PayPal, ISP's would be forced under penalty of law to block their DNS addresses, and search engines like Google and Yahoo would be forced by law to block the links to their websites.
Sure, it all sounds rather noble at the core, but the way it is written invites abuse by the US government and corporate interests. Let's be honest, if it did pass, or something similar that blocked piracy websites, we all know of "other" places to find material. IRC for example.
Furthermore, the way it is written essentially allows someone to make a false claim against an innocent website. Get enough complaints gathered up, and you have yourself a legal DDoS. Get the picture? It happens on YouTube all the time, someone e-mails YouTube saying that they are the copyright holder and that they would prefer not to file a DMCA complaint, so could they just remove the video and/or sound. The appeal process is a long and audacious one to tell YouTube that you were not breaking any rules or laws in the first place, and most people just give up.
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/01/21 : 00:55:36
Heres an update:
A big hurrah to you!!!!! Weve won for now -- SOPA and PIPA were dropped by Congress today -- the votes weve been scrambling to mobilize against have been cancelled.
The largest online protest in history has fundamentally changed the game. You were heard.
On January 18th, 13 million of us took the time to tell Congress to protect free speech rights on the internet. Hundreds of millions, maybe a billion, people all around the world saw what we did on Wednesday. See the amazing numbers here and tell everyone what you did.
This was unprecedented. Your activism may have changed the way people fight for the public interest and basic rights forever.
The MPAA (the lobby for big movie studios which created these terrible bills) was shocked and seemingly humbled. This was a whole new different game all of a sudden, MPAA Chairman and former Senator Chris Dodd told the New York Times. [PIPA and SOPA were] considered by many to be a slam dunk.
'This is altogether a new effect,' Mr. Dodd said, comparing the online movement to the Arab Spring. He could not remember seeing 'an effort that was moving with this degree of support change this dramatically' in the last four decades, he added."
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Lilark
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Posted - 2012/01/21 : 02:09:23
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Originally posted by Dys7:
Heres an update:
A big hurrah to you!!!!! Weve won for now -- SOPA and PIPA were dropped by Congress today -- the votes weve been scrambling to mobilize against have been cancelled.
The largest online protest in history has fundamentally changed the game. You were heard.
On January 18th, 13 million of us took the time to tell Congress to protect free speech rights on the internet. Hundreds of millions, maybe a billion, people all around the world saw what we did on Wednesday. See the amazing numbers here and tell everyone what you did.
This was unprecedented. Your activism may have changed the way people fight for the public interest and basic rights forever.
The MPAA (the lobby for big movie studios which created these terrible bills) was shocked and seemingly humbled. This was a whole new different game all of a sudden, MPAA Chairman and former Senator Chris Dodd told the New York Times. [PIPA and SOPA were] considered by many to be a slam dunk.
'This is altogether a new effect,' Mr. Dodd said, comparing the online movement to the Arab Spring. He could not remember seeing 'an effort that was moving with this degree of support change this dramatically' in the last four decades, he added."
For now? What, do they expect it to happen again after they were outvoted that hard? It's stupid of them to even consider a vote, considering that almost-a-billion people obviously don't want it passed. That's not just going to decrease with time.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2012/04/03 : 11:29:38
no? no one coming to our rescue? even know whats going on?
wiki and hotmail going to shut down in protest?
No its not happening directly to America, so I don't suppose any fuss will be made, even if you can make the same arguments and even if its potentially even more of an invasion into the privacy of any user communicating with anyone in the UK....
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/04/03 : 21:41:23
I'd say were doing about as much as Europe did towards SOPA, honestly. We're spreading awareness as we learn about it, but I'm not going to fly overseas and take down the European Parliament. Is there something specific you could recommend I do?
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Posted - 2012/04/03 : 22:07:10
the point is, i'm not talking about sopa! :D
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/04/03 : 22:36:29
I know, you're talking about ACTA. Parliament is voting on it in June.
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