| Author |
Thread |
|
latininxtc
Advanced Member
United States
7,307 posts
Joined: Feb, 2006
|
 Posted - 2015/08/01 : 17:47:07
For you twats bitching about not having a CD drive:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-External-Portable-CD-ROM-Drive/dp/B001GRNM6K/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1438451128&sr=8-4&keywords=cd+drive
I'm sure they have more affordable versions.
Alert moderator 
|
CDJay
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,049 posts
Joined: Nov, 2001
|
Posted - 2015/08/01 : 18:57:04
No need if we sort the digital rights thing 
CDJay
__________________________________
Http://www.hardcoreunderground.co.uk
Alert moderator
|
GrahamC
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
596 posts
Joined: Dec, 2007
|
Posted - 2015/08/01 : 19:24:36
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
For you twats bitching about not having a CD drive:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-External-Portable-CD-ROM-Drive/dp/B001GRNM6K/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1438451128&sr=8-4&keywords=cd+drive
I'm sure they have more affordable versions.
Well, I certainly wasn't bitching about not having the drive so not sure the 'twats' comment was aimed at me or not, I have found a solid solution for myself that works - discs, thumb drive, work PC, 10 mins of unattended work and job done. Box goes on the shelf, remains pristine.
CDs sadly are a dying format, like it or not. I didn't like it when Vinyl massively declined, I was traumatised throwing away my cassettes and I can't get CD singles any more and it annoys me. I like to have something to hold in my hand.
Digital, like it or not (not) is how it is going now so it is not unreasonable to at least ask for the album in that format. CDJay has his business model and thats up to him & HU and I respect that. I actually thought selling the album in a digital yet physical format (USB) was a kinda cool idea myself but get why it was dismissed.
Alert moderator
|
CDJay
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,049 posts
Joined: Nov, 2001
|
Posted - 2015/08/02 : 08:32:28
We're fully mindful of the need to find a halfway solution, now, and a sustainable one longer term. Doing anything aside from CDs on release day will inevitably detract from CD sales which is the one thing actually working so I'm wary. The better position HU, and the scene, feels in then the more we're likely to really explore a rejig.
In the immediate future, though, I just really, truly, hope everyone gets behind this. I listened through the final mastered mixes last night and it really *is* great. It reminds me of Bonkers 8; on Bonkers 7 there were attempts to shoehorn trance in and it was met with.. well, less than universal acclaim. By the time Bonkers Resurrection happened, there was pent up demand the melding was much more convincing. That's the same here; after the dubcore era, we got the usual scene wide mass adoption of EDM noises and not always fused convincingly. On HU7 it sounds like hardcore. Yes, there are tracks that I fully expect traditionalists of any prior era to balk at, and yes, overall, it's going to have moved a fraction away from where things were a few years back. It just feels.... current, and invigorating. I can absolutely imagine someone who is barely familiar with the genre finding this to be a gateway. I can see it rekindling passion and hope for the future in the longer serving scene survivors.
I can absolutely see that there will be people who have been with us for the whole ride, or fervent fetishists of substyles less represented than in previous volumes, may protest this is no longer "Underground". To those people, let me state the obvious: In the past the HU series was an alternative album; it showcased the artists/tracks/substyles that the major comps didn't. There aren't any of those now; we've essentially had to fill the void at the top without losing our footing. The good news is that it's actually let us do what I ultimately wanted in the first place; showcase *everything*. I mean, there are some shifts around in style here you just wouldn't have got anywhere else. We're emboldened, and that's a truly great thing if it works.
In case you can't tell, I'm essentially happy with it
CDJay
__________________________________
Http://www.hardcoreunderground.co.uk
Alert moderator
|
warped_candykid
Advanced Member
United States
3,981 posts
Joined: Jan, 2004
|
Posted - 2015/08/02 : 16:03:06
Hixxy's Bonkers 8 mix was pretty solid. I got my pre-order in!
Alert moderator
|
Claxton
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,061 posts
Joined: Dec, 2011
|
Posted - 2015/08/02 : 16:08:28
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
We're fully mindful of the need to find a halfway solution, now, and a sustainable one longer term. Doing anything aside from CDs on release day will inevitably detract from CD sales which is the one thing actually working so I'm wary. The better position HU, and the scene, feels in then the more we're likely to really explore a rejig.
In the immediate future, though, I just really, truly, hope everyone gets behind this. I listened through the final mastered mixes last night and it really *is* great. It reminds me of Bonkers 8; on Bonkers 7 there were attempts to shoehorn trance in and it was met with.. well, less than universal acclaim. By the time Bonkers Resurrection happened, there was pent up demand the melding was much more convincing. That's the same here; after the dubcore era, we got the usual scene wide mass adoption of EDM noises and not always fused convincingly. On HU7 it sounds like hardcore. Yes, there are tracks that I fully expect traditionalists of any prior era to balk at, and yes, overall, it's going to have moved a fraction away from where things were a few years back. It just feels.... current, and invigorating. I can absolutely imagine someone who is barely familiar with the genre finding this to be a gateway. I can see it rekindling passion and hope for the future in the longer serving scene survivors.
I can absolutely see that there will be people who have been with us for the whole ride, or fervent fetishists of substyles less represented than in previous volumes, may protest this is no longer "Underground". To those people, let me state the obvious: In the past the HU series was an alternative album; it showcased the artists/tracks/substyles that the major comps didn't. There aren't any of those now; we've essentially had to fill the void at the top without losing our footing. The good news is that it's actually let us do what I ultimately wanted in the first place; showcase *everything*. I mean, there are some shifts around in style here you just wouldn't have got anywhere else. We're emboldened, and that's a truly great thing if it works.
In case you can't tell, I'm essentially happy with it
CDJay
Amen!
Alert moderator
|
fafaforza
Starting Member
United States
6 posts
Joined: Jul, 2015
|
Posted - 2015/08/03 : 02:51:56
quote:
Originally posted by Jacco:
I want to support you so we will see more great compilations in the future. I get your point that pure digital releases don't sell well but I am sure that you're losing customers by not offering any kind of digital release.
Agreed with this. It would be a nice bonus to get an mp3 link, especially since it takes me about a week or more to get the physical media in the US.
Alert moderator
|
CDJay
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,049 posts
Joined: Nov, 2001
|
Posted - 2015/08/03 : 06:43:49
That's one of the key drivers; it would be nice to be able to level the playing field a bit for international peeps (who make up an ever increasing percentage!).
Reckon it might help encourage more impulse purchases, too
CDJay
__________________________________
Http://www.hardcoreunderground.co.uk
Alert moderator
|
Impulse_Response
Advanced Member
United States
734 posts
Joined: Jun, 2013
|
Posted - 2015/08/03 : 10:14:32
Whatever alternatives you pursue, please keep releasing everything on CD forever.
__________________________________
Producers and record labels, please stop "loudness war" mastering everything. It sounds terrible.
Alert moderator
|
djDMS
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
10,304 posts
Joined: Feb, 2003
572 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2015/08/03 : 10:48:00
Only just got to listen to the F&D guest mix on KTRA. Jesus Christ it's good!
__________________________________
Taking my time to perfect the beat
Alert moderator
|
trippnface
Advanced Member
United States
1,661 posts
Joined: Jan, 2010
|
Posted - 2015/08/03 : 19:34:39
man i duno about some of those chris fear tracks xp
i hope scott really dominates that mix cuz i can't say i have even heard chris fear produce any hardcore i like and alot of that recent stuff he is pushing has that big time big room/trappy sound
did he ask about working HU7 or was he asked to do it; i feel like another dj could of fit much much better to be honest. but i get the whole encompassing all parts of the current scene thing....
__________________________________
(A)☮(E)
Alert moderator
|
Mortis
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,493 posts
Joined: May, 2004
341 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2015/08/03 : 20:01:51
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Only just got to listen to the F&D guest mix on KTRA. Jesus Christ it's good!
Some good stuff there. I'm especially liking Join Us Now. This style of hardcore is something I've been experimenting with for a while now myself. I hope it catches on.
__________________________________
"Maybe in a day and age in which even our rappers can't get to the end of a verse without having an existential crisis, we should find a place for happy hardcore"
Alert moderator
|
Mortis
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,493 posts
Joined: May, 2004
341 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2015/08/03 : 20:02:52
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
man i duno about some of those chris fear tracks xp
i hope scott really dominates that mix cuz i can't say i have even heard chris fear produce any hardcore i like and alot of that recent stuff he is pushing has that big time big room/trappy sound
did he ask about working HU7 or was he asked to do it; i feel like another dj could of fit much much better to be honest. but i get the whole encompassing all parts of the current scene thing....
You might like his tune Far Far Away, it's quite Shimamura esque:
__________________________________
"Maybe in a day and age in which even our rappers can't get to the end of a verse without having an existential crisis, we should find a place for happy hardcore"
Alert moderator
Edited by - Mortis on 2015/08/03 20:04:58 |
Elipton
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,268 posts
Joined: Apr, 2013
|
Posted - 2015/08/03 : 20:58:32
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
man i duno about some of those chris fear tracks xp
i hope scott really dominates that mix cuz i can't say i have even heard chris fear produce any hardcore i like and alot of that recent stuff he is pushing has that big time big room/trappy sound
did he ask about working HU7 or was he asked to do it; i feel like another dj could of fit much much better to be honest. but i get the whole encompassing all parts of the current scene thing....
You might like his tune Far Far Away, it's quite Shimamura esque:
The sample he's using for that bassline goes horribly out of tune in the lower notes. It's probably keyed in properly, but wav samples can go very odd when you modulate them. From experience, I think it's because the sample slows down, so the vibrato effect is slower also.
If that's corrected, it's a bloody good track. Lovely feel to the breakdowns, great melodies and the concept behind the bouncy kick and bass are great. Vocal sample could use with a little less repetition though. Reverse it, timestretch it, go crazy with it - heck why not.
Alert moderator
Edited by - Elipton on 2015/08/03 21:00:43 |
warped_candykid
Advanced Member
United States
3,981 posts
Joined: Jan, 2004
|
Posted - 2015/08/03 : 21:00:45
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
man i duno about some of those chris fear tracks xp
i hope scott really dominates that mix cuz i can't say i have even heard chris fear produce any hardcore i like and alot of that recent stuff he is pushing has that big time big room/trappy sound
did he ask about working HU7 or was he asked to do it; i feel like another dj could of fit much much better to be honest. but i get the whole encompassing all parts of the current scene thing....
You might like his tune Far Far Away, it's quite Shimamura esque:
I love this tune!!! I looked it up before I put my pre-order in. Well, Chris Fear was on Best of 2013, so I guess that's why he was asked back. My question is, is Hixxy not producing at the moment? In a way, it would be kinda nice to hear a mix from Hixxy on such a big album, but only if he pulled out the old style mixing he was so good at!
Alert moderator
Edited by - warped_candykid on 2015/08/03 21:03:37 |
|
Printer friendly
