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Gaz mace-E 1988
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 Posted - 2015/10/04 : 01:56:29
Firstly, a warm hello to you all! As this is my first post, apologies if there is a welcome section within this forum as I could not find one. Now that the hello Is out of the way, may I proceed to my question. Back story, when I was a kid, I grew up listening to happy hardcore (must of been said countless times I guess) to the likes of Slipmat, vibes, midas etc etc. I followed hardcore like a religion back then. Then came the millennium, when I was in high school (I'm now 27) with albums such as universal hardcore were out, and in my personal opinion was the pinnacle of hardcore was out, around 2000-2006. At which point I aquired my first set of decks which were vestax pdt 5000's with a Gemini mixer, where my vinyl collection grew to a, at the time, satisfactory collection, which I also started producing tracks too (available on my sound cloud), but, sadly responsibilitys took over and left the hardcore scene behind. And with it, producing and djing. I've had my fare share of raves (not performed at btw) including westfest and more recently totally lost it events at bowlers in Manchester, but by this point I hard started collecting and mixing the more trippy (and oldschool/piano) side of dance taking inspiration from the likes of Carl cox F.A.C.
T mixes and techno trance. When I recently tried to return to the scene having bought "clubland x-tremendous hardcore 8", I was mortified to find that every track took on a commercial, electro, dubstep type style which which made me rather sad, and, as a result, stopped listening to the scene full stop.To know a scene I loved and believed in and was involved in had turned out in such a way. I don't know if this is just my opinion or one shared by many, perhaps (or rather knowingly) that clubland x treme is a bad example and obviously and hopefully not a representative of all current hardcore. The magic I felt seemed as it it had gone, and we were left with this commercial joke left from what was once a scene I used to feel proud to be part of. What I wonder now tho is, what is the scene currently like? Has it moved past this stage or are we still in this electro/dubstep sounding stage, as I'm at a time in my life where I'd love to bring back my many feelings, emotions, and love, that I had for hardcore. Any replies appreciated, as I miss the glory days, where hardcore was my life.
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Edited by - Gaz mace-E 1988 on 2015/10/04 02:12:14 |
latininxtc
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 02:14:52
Your biggest mistake is thinking that CXH8 is an adequate representation of the current scene, even the scene at the time it was released. It isn't. There's far more variety out there than whatever came from that album. You should consider getting some of the Hardcore Underground volume albums. You can pick up Hardcore Underground 3, 6 and 7 on this site:
http://www.hardcoreunderground.co.uk/
Also pick up Happy Hardcore Underground. It has more happier 90s hardcore influences in most, if not all of the tracks.
You can pick up HU Presents 2013 as well for a "bargain" price of 3 quid. Although depending on who you ask, some might say even that's too much to pay for that album lol
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Vladel
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 08:06:54
There is a lot of great emotional and magical hardcore around, you just have to look forward to it and hardcore underground is the road to most of it.
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Samination
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 08:27:32
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Originally posted by Vladel:
There is a lot of great emotional and magical hardcore around, you just have to look forward to it and hardcore underground is the road to most of it.
*ignore what I said, I competly forgot to check user names :( Sorry Gaz*
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Edited by - Samination on 2015/10/04 12:38:05 |
Hard2Get
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 08:36:00
No it's not just you. Hardcore has been unlistenable to me (with the exception of hand full of tracks which are good but still not in the same way as older stuff) for many years now. In the space of 15 years most genres of evolved beyond recognition and this is also true for Hardcore.
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Smoogie
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 Posted - 2015/10/04 : 11:21:23
Welcome to the forums! 
I don't even follow Hardcore anymore, not the recent stuff anyway and haven't since 2007 when I got sick to death of the same old, same old Trancy Raverbaby stuff getting ripped on every other label.
The only new stuff I heard is Old Skool sounding stuff, Casket Crusherbeing a good example who makes excellent tunes! 
I also make my own tunes now and enjoy it, but I do it for myself but it gives me something to listen to.
But it seems that the 'Electro/ Dubstep' stuff is just another ploy into the commercial side of things just like the Trance side of things 10 years ago.
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Gaz mace-E 1988
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 13:27:43
Thanks Smoogie :) do you host your tracks anywhere?
Yeah its pretty much how I feel on the whole subject, the last track I actually liked probably was in 2008 with Hixxy vs dougal & gammer - phaze 2 phaze which I think was on the Raverbaby label? Also I didn't think at the time of writing that, to were I thought the pinnacle of hardcore was for me, it may of even peaked far earlier for others etc. I mean, how hardcore evolved from the mid 90s to let's say, 2004, I actually liked the way it was evolving and the direction it was heading, but sadly things changed :(. I'll check this HU out too.
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Origianally posted by Vladel:
There is a lot of great emotional and magical hardcore around, you just have to look forward to it and hardcore underground is the road to most of it.
*ignore what I said, I competly forgot to check user names :( Sorry Gaz*
Haha its cool man! :)
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CDJay
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 16:13:07
I can't really recommend starting with Happy Hardcore Underground enough 
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 17:44:18
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I can't really recommend starting with Happy Hardcore Underground enough
CDJay
Is there going to be a Vol.2????
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Vladel
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 17:47:19
There better be! I want a fracus & Darwin heart of gold remix
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 20:20:13
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Originally posted by Vladel:
There better be! I want a fracus & Darwin heart of gold remix
Ugh I'd rather not. I'm sick to death of Heart of Gold.
But it might be doable. Although I was thinking it could a real challenge considering how hard it was for Jon to try and make Darwin's ToyTown remix happen on the first edition, which unfortunately backfired. But looking at the tracklist, a Harmony and Apollo 13 remix, both F&S tracks, did make the cut, but only on the mixes. The same would be for a Heart of Gold remix I'm sure.
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Vladel
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 20:55:38
yeah i don't think there have been that many remixes of heart of gold since the nineties, there's the hixxy remix on Bonkers 9 and the crappy breeze and styles one later on but i reckon Fracus & darwin could smash it it the tune gets the same treatment here i am got.
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Cyrax
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Posted - 2015/10/06 : 10:24:12
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by Vladel:
There better be! I want a fracus & Darwin heart of gold remix
Ugh I'd rather not. I'm sick to death of Heart of Gold.
I know exactly what you mean, it's like hearing Sweet Harmony for the billionth time!
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shades316
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Posted - 2015/10/06 : 11:01:57
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Originally posted by Vladel:
There better be! I want a fracus & Darwin heart of gold remix
Who's remix is this? https://www.facebook.com/chelsiiravin.rose/videos/916420538452919/?ref=3&ref_newsfeed_story_type=regular&action_history=null
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Mortis
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Posted - 2015/10/06 : 15:42:22
^^ I like the sound of that. True to the original but with a new twist.
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shades316
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Posted - 2015/10/06 : 15:53:30
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^^ I like the sound of that. True to the original but with a new twist.
Yeah me too. More of a remake than a remix... along the same lines as the F&D mix of Hear I Am and Al Storm's mix of Have It All which featured on HHU.
I assume its done by F&D?? Would be good to hear a better quality clip. :)
Does anyone know if the sets from Sound Wave were recorded?
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Edited by - shades316 on 2015/10/06 15:54:46 |
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