Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,073 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2015/10/07 : 07:44:04
Don't show that TAke me to the moon track to S3rl, he'll just remix it to hell and back :P
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rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
621 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2015/10/09 : 06:05:47
Hate to say it but I think I have to disagree. All that has happened to hardcore is it has become alot more versatile.
2005-2010 alot UK Hardcore was all sounding the same and I became very discouraged with the lack of creativity. Every track was Trancey sounding and cheesy as fark. Even freeform went to shit. Where it was alot more creadible back when it was TranceCore in the late 90s.
Now you have producers with so many influences. From Hardstyle to Dubstep to EDM House and Drum n Bass.
There are still producers making the old sound that you guys like too. Just look at the Australian djs. They all seem to be about 10 years behind what we are doing in the UK and the US with Hardcore productions.
Australian djs like Haze, Weaver and JTS all still seem to make the dated Trancey Hardcore.
rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
621 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2015/10/10 : 06:37:59
Not sure what the reason is. Maybe they don't know how to as the new edm Hardcore productions are more intelligent and technical to produce.
All I know is everytime I hear a Weaver, Haze or Jts tune it sounds like what Breeze and Styles were doing over ten years ago and so dated.
Chris Unknown, Alex Prospect, Klubfiller, Darren Styles, Mark Breeze, Macks Wolf, Fracus & Darwin, Recon, Iyf & Nobody are all pushing the boundaries with Hardstyle and Edm influences.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,073 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2015/10/10 : 06:59:31
what bounderies are they actually pushing? other than our nerves that is :P
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Vladel Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,514 posts Joined: Feb, 2008
Posted - 2015/10/10 : 07:41:18
I'm sorry but mark breeze hasn't been near hardcore for a long time and Chris unknown has been working to ruin the memory of all the good music he ever made with sy.
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Elliott Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,137 posts Joined: May, 2012
Posted - 2015/10/10 : 16:42:54
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Hate to say it but I think I have to disagree. All that has happened to hardcore is it has become alot more versatile.
2005-2010 alot UK Hardcore was all sounding the same and I became very discouraged with the lack of creativity. Every track was Trancey sounding and cheesy as fark. Even freeform went to shit. Where it was alot more creadible back when it was TranceCore in the late 90s.
Now you have producers with so many influences. From Hardstyle to Dubstep to EDM House and Drum n Bass.
There are still producers making the old sound that you guys like too. Just look at the Australian djs. They all seem to be about 10 years behind what we are doing in the UK and the US with Hardcore productions.
Australian djs like Haze, Weaver and JTS all still seem to make the dated Trancey Hardcore.
Weaver's been doing some good stuff lately. But what you call dated, I call superior. :P
Anyway, round here hardcore peaked in popularity in 2007 when it was good. Nobody gives a shit about it now because it's bad. I haven't heard a hardcore track at a house party since 2010 when it was still pretty good.
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brodster Junior Member
United States
99 posts Joined: Nov, 2013
Posted - 2015/10/10 : 20:44:36
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Not sure what the reason is. Maybe they don't know how to as the new edm Hardcore productions are more intelligent and technical to produce.
Do you make music? If you did you would know that the new "edm hardcore" takes no more skill than the "outdated trance hardcore" does to produce. If anything the new stuff is simpler than the older stuff.
Vladel Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,514 posts Joined: Feb, 2008
Posted - 2015/10/10 : 21:08:19
quote:Originally posted by brodster:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Not sure what the reason is. Maybe they don't know how to as the new edm Hardcore productions are more intelligent and technical to produce.
Do you make music? If you did you would know that the new "edm hardcore" takes no more skill than the "outdated trance hardcore" does to produce. If anything the new stuff is simpler than the older stuff.
Yeah the new stuff must be easier to make if you aren't actually trying to make it sound good
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