Craigavon raver Advanced Member
Ireland
2,207 posts Joined: Sep, 2007
Posted - 2016/10/16 : 19:05:58
quote:Originally posted by Bring Me Round To Love:
You don't need that much money, just make a CD album
Hardcore has changed alot since the NG/BB days and not for the good!
If you want to help poor DJ HAM pay his bills go ahead, a fool and his money are soon parted.
Agreed! why not just do a cd album and limit it to 100 or 500 copies, something like clsm has done in the past( and many others) and like what music Mondays do, something that shouldn't be overly expensive to do, and keep it at numbers that will sell, so the cds aren't over prodeuced and he makes some money
Vladel Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,514 posts Joined: Feb, 2008
Posted - 2016/10/17 : 06:15:05
Because it literally is just about the money. The whole exclusivity thing has already been ruined by people teaming up so numbers aren't an issue. It's money plain and simple.
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arpz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,267 posts Joined: Aug, 2012
Posted - 2016/10/18 : 16:00:47
DJ Ham So it took a bit longer than expected but finally all the deposits are in... stage 1 is complete!
A huge thanks to the 100 who have backed this project... I salute you!!!
Tomorrow I will be sending the free track I promised. This will be to the email that you originally registered with, so please keep an eye out and check spam folders etc... I hope you like it!
Now just the very small matter of me writing this album 😂😂
I've given 6 months as a rough estimate to finish it, it may be sooner (although I highly doubt that lol) or later... so please bare with me, I don't want to rush it! (Although I do have one track near finished already)
Once again thank you for making this idea and project happen!!!
Ikstra Junior Member
United Kingdom
85 posts Joined: Jul, 2014
Posted - 2016/10/18 : 22:24:23
Looks like we'll be seeing even more of Ham in hardcore once the album is done
quote:Dj Ham has agreed to make new old skool hardcore for Kniteforce - but that will not happen until after he has done the album he is working on. Likewise, Alk-e-d, Dj Deluxe and others are planning on getting back int he studio. And with any luck there will be a new Future Primitive as well.
arpz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,267 posts Joined: Aug, 2012
Posted - 2016/10/18 : 22:34:58
Oh yeah! And more future primitive too! I like this new found momentum in the Kniteforce camp. Think it calls for a thread!
arpz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,267 posts Joined: Aug, 2012
Posted - 2016/10/19 : 09:14:21
Hi gang!
Once again, a huge thank you to you all! I can?t wait to get cracking!!!
In the meantime, here?s the free track I promised.
Whilst I am totally happy for you to play this track in dj sets in clubs or online, I will not be happy if the full track is shared online? I know I?m giving this track away for free, but it?s only free to you and the rest of the 100, a small thank you from me.
Although I know you will be responsible, I will be keeping an eye on the downloads just so it?s fair for everyone ;-)
Anyway, here it is? it?s an older track but I hope you like it!
Ham - Anything For You (24 bit wav direct download link): (REDACTED)
Clicking the link should be fine but if you are having any trouble downloading it try the ?right click and save as? option.
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2016/10/19 : 20:57:43
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
Hi gang!
Once again, a huge thank you to you all! I can?t wait to get cracking!!!
In the meantime, here?s the free track I promised.
Whilst I am totally happy for you to play this track in dj sets in clubs or online, I will not be happy if the full track is shared online? I know I?m giving this track away for free, but it?s only free to you and the rest of the 100, a small thank you from me.
Although I know you will be responsible, I will be keeping an eye on the downloads just so it?s fair for everyone ;-)
Anyway, here it is? it?s an older track but I hope you like it!
Ham - Anything For You (24 bit wav direct download link): (REDACTED)
Clicking the link should be fine but if you are having any trouble downloading it try the ?right click and save as? option.
Ham x
can only find a slow version on youtube? track is pretty weak though honestly. hope he makes som real uk hardcore for the album
Elliott Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,137 posts Joined: May, 2012
Posted - 2016/10/24 : 22:17:56
quote:Originally posted by Elliott:
quote:Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
I'm going to guess it's the 2011 styles & breeze remix of 24/7.
I think Mickey nailed it. It's gotta be Anything For You.
I could never understand why he didn't just chuck it out on NG/BB before he left the scene. I guess by that point the money he was making from producing hardcore was so little that it was literally not worth his time to even upload it.
We got it. ;)
I got bored of Anything For You years ago though so I was kinda hoping it would be some obscure '00s track. Also mildly amused by the fact that the intro/outro sound identical to the pre-release edit I made for mixing with just a few extra layers on top. Anyone wanna bet he literally only finished the track 2 weeks ago for this?
Of course it's about the money. But as I said in an earlier post while actually defending Ham for this cash-grab, he could still be making a LOT more in dnb. He obviously wants to return to hardcore but expects at least some percentage of the takings he was getting in drums. I reckon that if he genuinely spends months on these tracks as his day job then ?10,000 is a massive undervaluation of his time.
Personally, I'm just thrilled that he hasn't lost the love for hardcore (and trust me, this return, no matter how cynical it seems, means that he hasn't). And the Brisk & Ham photo was the icing on the cake. It's no coincidence that hardcore got vastly worse the same year that Brisk and Ham left the scene.
My biggest fear is that, having invested ?25 that I don't really have, Ham now goes and releases 10 tracks of EDMcore. He wouldn't do that though, would he? Surely he knows what his target audience wants and what his sound was all about. Nah, that can't happen. It'll be a bunch of bangers like Epic Riff, Making Love Forever 2008 and Run To You, right? Someone please comfort me!
I have less faith in how any future Brisk & Ham collabs would turn out. Look at what happened to Fracus & Darwin. I could easily see B&H pulling an F&D. But at least I haven't paid money for that!
On a personal note, dropping that money was probably a great idea for me. Sad as it is, having to wait 6 months for new Ham music gives me a reason to keep myself going for another 6 months. I think about suicide a lot but if I do it now, that's 25 ****ing notes down the drain! This album better be good or Ham's gonna feature heavily in my epitaph.
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Elliott Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,137 posts Joined: May, 2012
Posted - 2016/10/24 : 22:26:36
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
Hi gang!
Once again, a huge thank you to you all! I can?t wait to get cracking!!!
In the meantime, here?s the free track I promised.
Whilst I am totally happy for you to play this track in dj sets in clubs or online, I will not be happy if the full track is shared online? I know I?m giving this track away for free, but it?s only free to you and the rest of the 100, a small thank you from me.
Although I know you will be responsible, I will be keeping an eye on the downloads just so it?s fair for everyone ;-)
Anyway, here it is? it?s an older track but I hope you like it!
Ham - Anything For You (24 bit wav direct download link): (REDACTED)
Clicking the link should be fine but if you are having any trouble downloading it try the ?right click and save as? option.
Ham x
can only find a slow version on youtube? track is pretty weak though honestly. hope he makes som real uk hardcore for the album
Until a couple of weeks ago, you could find my pre-release edit of the proper 170 hardcore track on there (not the whole thing, mind). It's a total coincidence that it's not up now actually. I just deleted all my Google accounts as part of finally following through on my Google boycott. Nothing to do with Ham or him finally releasing the track.
And yeah, Anything For You was a really weird one (and this is coming from the guy who produced Skream -- awesome track btw). Out of nowhere, he came with this totally modern "chillout-core" track (there was actually a brief spate of tracks in that style in ~2012 if you remember -- I actually thought that was going to be the new direction for hardcore for a while). Breeze did a set with several tracks like that in it including his Home remix. I actually loved that stuff at the time. I'm all for variation (NOT restriction) in the scene and the chilled out sound was providing some enjoyable variation. It was a nice little diversion for a while (infinitely better than some of the big room shite we have today) but it died pretty quickly and there's no denying that those tracks now sound weak to the traditional UK hardcore fan.
Still probably better than anything else he's produced this decade:
I'm actually listening to that remix for the first time in years and, **** me, I forgot how good it was. Lovely track. Definitely the best thing Breeze has done this decade (possibly even since Sometimes unless I'm forgetting one or two scratch that, Futureworld released some bangers in 2009).
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