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Smoogie
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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  08:36:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
died with the 90s, now its harder then hard house

do a event, make sure you get as many free drinks as you can just in case



Harder than Hard House? You mean like Gabber hard?


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wong
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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  09:01:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit wong's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
I'm just pissed off that our entire thread siding with Ajay against might have been proven wrong. Ajay did feel the scene owed him something and it would be dark indeed if this was his way of finding retribution.

Be interesting to hear if the accusation is true. So far, everyone should bare in mind that Scott has drawn this conclusion based on what he's seen on Facebook and heard from others.



Pretty sure he based it on not getting paid by him


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Elipton
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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  10:34:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elipton's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by wong:
quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
I'm just pissed off that our entire thread siding with Ajay against might have been proven wrong. Ajay did feel the scene owed him something and it would be dark indeed if this was his way of finding retribution.

Be interesting to hear if the accusation is true. So far, everyone should bare in mind that Scott has drawn this conclusion based on what he's seen on Facebook and heard from others.



Pretty sure he based it on not getting paid by him



Use your brain. He's drawn the conclusion as to WHY he's not been paid. What he's seen and heard had made him forego reasonable explanations, and rightly so, but hearsay doesn't make it true. I simply hope it's not.


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djDMS
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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  11:06:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
No contact, excuse or reason for not being paid has been forthcoming though - can't really blame SB for coming to a conclusion.

Haven't seen anyone else mention not being paid yet, wonder what else has happened.


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wong
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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  11:37:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit wong's homepage  Reply with quote
Smiley said he wasnt paid, along with some others i forget who he said

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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  11:37:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Guest's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
died with the 90s, now its harder then hard house

do a event, make sure you get as many free drinks as you can just in case



Harder than Hard House? You mean like Gabber hard?



when uk hardcore is'nt full of j-core its harder then hard house, but hard house dj's drink until they puke all over the decks


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arpz
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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  12:35:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit arpz's homepage  Reply with quote
Smiley, hixxy, others... Lol

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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  13:46:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Ken Masters's homepage  Reply with quote
Why does every issue within Hardcore have to become a soap like drama? Jumping to conclusions & tarnishing reputations.

Its as if we haven't learned anything from the whole sorry Sy saga & seem to have forgotten just how damaging these overly eager social media posts can be. It spreads like wild fire & even if Ajay were to pop up now with a valid reason and resolve the situation, the damage is done.

I'm not backing Ajay. I dont know Ajay or Scott, nor do I have any idea on the ins & outs of the situation, none of us do. What has any of this got to do with us? Nothing.

Its business. Take legal action. Simple :)



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Edited by - Ken Masters on 2017/03/25 13:49:09
Rodz90
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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  16:06:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Rodz90's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Masters:

I'm not backing Ajay. I dont know Ajay or Scott, nor do I have any idea on the ins & outs of the situation, none of us do. What has any of this got to do with us? Nothing.

Its business. Take legal action. Simple :)




This a million times over! I don't get the whole name and shame thing that people seem to think is perfectly acceptable in the scene. Handle shit privately or take legal action. Don't involve the whole world in your troubles.


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Smoogie
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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  16:55:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Masters:
Why does every issue within Hardcore have to become a soap like drama? Jumping to conclusions & tarnishing reputations.

Its as if we haven't learned anything from the whole sorry Sy saga & seem to have forgotten just how damaging these overly eager social media posts can be. It spreads like wild fire & even if Ajay were to pop up now with a valid reason and resolve the situation, the damage is done.

I'm not backing Ajay. I dont know Ajay or Scott, nor do I have any idea on the ins & outs of the situation, none of us do. What has any of this got to do with us? Nothing.

Its business. Take legal action. Simple :)





Sadly in this world of social networking and social media nothing is really 'personal' these days. I really do wish that this whole online thing never blew up as big as it has done though


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Guest
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Posted - 2017/03/25 :  17:33:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Guest's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rodz90:
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Masters:

I'm not backing Ajay. I dont know Ajay or Scott, nor do I have any idea on the ins & outs of the situation, none of us do. What has any of this got to do with us? Nothing.

Its business. Take legal action. Simple :)




This a million times over! I don't get the whole name and shame thing that people seem to think is perfectly acceptable in the scene. Handle shit privately or take legal action. Don't involve the whole world in your troubles.



or rob and burn down his garden shed


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Elipton
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Posted - 2017/03/26 :  01:27:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elipton's homepage  Reply with quote
Taking legal action is so difficult at this level. Representation and general risk are massive expenses to consider. If the booking fee was a verbal contract agreed over phone, it wouldn't stand up to legal scrutiny.

This is an old school industry, and it's very informal. One's word counts for a lot, but not as much as one's representation. Calling someone out is retribution and then some.


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Samination
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Posted - 2017/03/26 :  07:22:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rodz90:
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Masters:

I'm not backing Ajay. I dont know Ajay or Scott, nor do I have any idea on the ins & outs of the situation, none of us do. What has any of this got to do with us? Nothing.

Its business. Take legal action. Simple :)




This a million times over! I don't get the whole name and shame thing that people seem to think is perfectly acceptable in the scene. Handle shit privately or take legal action. Don't involve the whole world in your troubles.



Legal action = over in maybe 5 years time?
Public action = over within seconds.

Does feel tempting to go the quicker route, no?

Elipton: He waited a couple of weeks before going public. I don't know how many times he's tried to contact Ajay, but I HOPE that he has atleast tried to contact other people who know ajay or has worked with him. This is the result.

And even if he is a faulted man himself, you just don't fu*k with the Scotsman!


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Edited by - Samination on 2017/03/26 07:24:58
jordesuvi
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Posted - 2017/03/27 :  10:07:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jordesuvi's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
died with the 90s, now its harder then hard house

do a event, make sure you get as many free drinks as you can just in case



Harder than Hard House? You mean like Gabber hard?



when uk hardcore is'nt full of j-core its harder then hard house, but hard house dj's drink until they puke all over the decks




Guest, you're slowly becoming my favourite shitposter.


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Edited by - jordesuvi on 2017/03/27 10:07:50
trippnface
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Posted - 2017/03/27 :  15:40:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage  Reply with quote
oh for ****s sake; seriously?

why is the hardcore scene like a ****ing high school drama??


this is pathetic.


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