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clarke101
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Posted - 2006/06/19 :  16:44:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit clarke101's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by silver:
and his own production currently taking the underground scene by storm, ‘Get Hyped’.




Err.....If you say so.


I hope it was a copy and paste from the press release


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Posted - 2006/06/19 :  16:45:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by gloworm:
it's the DJs behind it as I say that pushed it up MoS's noses that should be commended for rasiing profile and getting a serious- if low budget documentary made about it



Yeah I agree with that completely :) I do think this is a great CD for anyone who doesn't have the material already.

Was too young to go to Skelter unfortunately but I was listening back then, some of my mates went when they were like 13 god knows how they got in :s. I do believe that the original owners have nout to do with the Helter Skelter name now though it was sold.


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Edited by - bulby_g on 2006/06/19 16:49:14
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Posted - 2006/06/19 :  17:03:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit whittle1's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DJ Phoenix:
*yawn*
More of the same old same old... with 'The Way' being put on this one as well, just for the sake of it

The best thing about this CD release is the site makeover



haha agreed mate!
Definetly won't be getting this one, no point in buying a wad load of songs you already have in your collection.


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Posted - 2006/06/19 :  17:26:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
Ahh, I just noticed this.. but according to both Amzon.co.uk and Amazon.com this album was released MAY 30th... Which exlains why my pre-order from amazon.co.uk was shippe don the 14th of june. but Amazon.com has had the item in stock for 3 weeks now..

I am really confused anyone care to explain..

Link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/tracks/B000FJHW7U/ref=dp_tracks_all_1/103-3020915-4511061?%5Fencoding=UTF8#disc_1




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Posted - 2006/06/19 :  17:41:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
no no no mate- that's a myth- david pratley- the guy who started HS- still runs it and made the album deal with MoS and is their consultant nd every bit of the album gfrom DJ choice to artowkr to street campaign... check out the interview i found with him here...
http://www.ministryofsound.com/news/features/20060615_4


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Posted - 2006/06/19 :  23:14:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage  Reply with quote
to the ppl who have this cd already...is the full version of "No More Tears" (track 2 on cd 2), is it the full version with the bouncey happy part...or is it just the soft piano part?



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Posted - 2006/06/20 :  16:48:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sk8SiM's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
to the ppl who have this cd already...is the full version of "No More Tears" (track 2 on cd 2), is it the full version with the bouncey happy part...or is it just the soft piano part?

Full Verison... (i think)

put it this way... CD2 isn't your typical Happy HardCore that most would come to expect...

its PURE CHESSE!!!!!! START TO FINISH!!!!

not stuff like bonkers... ohhhh nooooo...

i mean ****ING CHESSE!!!!

so yeah :D very good :D
i was blasting it in the van with my dad today (shamfully i left the oldskool CD in my PC tray this morning)... he couldn't stand it... was rather funny while i was explaining everything to him about the history :D lol

CD3 (billys oldskool) - OMFG!!!! some of them tracks i had herd before but never evan knew was hardcore....

the documenty is ****ing CLASS!!!!

explains about most the of the tunes in the breakbeat eare... you could never go out and buy on CD...

the only place you could here that music... WAS AT THE RAVES!!!!

you'd be lucky if you could own it on tape pack... witch was ofcource of the events... witch evan these were illeagl!!!!

this explains just like it does in the doumenty of why raves back then were GENIUNE!!!!

ravers came cuse they wanted to listen to THAT music...
no one knew about it other then the DOVOTED ravers!!!

just sampling and slaping shit togehter it was back then ;)
no PC's to work on...

them tunes are ****ing intesne...
TRUE CLASSICS!!!


AND I ****ING ENVI ANYONE WHO GOT TO BE THERE IN THEM DAYS!!!
(why was i born at such a shite time man :()

i now understand why so many of them piss and moan that hardcore is dead, and why upfront is shite...
cuse it really was a SCENE back then...

these days its more of a business (if you get what i mean)

apraently... some of the tracks on the CD :) WAS NEVER RELEASED!!!!
cuse of *coff* copyright shit (like i said... sampled)


i think it was "Mystery man" or something hehe *wink wink*

^^^^^^ another reason to buy this CD ^^^^^^^^^^^

i need to watch it again to understand it all more...
but i tell you now...

DEFO WORTH THE BUY!!!

i see what the whole hype was about now...

F*CK DOUGALS MIX OFF!!!
I'm sure most the people that say "I've already got them tunes" are thinking about this mix...

where i can garentee most people havn't evan herd of some of the stuff on slipmatts mix...
and if not... then defo MOST on billys mix!!!


honestly i can't stress how great it is to own this

now all i have to do down the pub instead of having a VERY DEEP debate
about it...

i just have to slap this comp on the table!!!

"This is oldskool (or what was known as breakbeat hardcore)
this is happy hardcore
and this is upfront..."


"take everything i've ever said in...
go home and listen..."


"and admit i was right"

this is one album i can honestly say i wouldn't mind passing it around...
hey, wouldn't give a shite if it got robed!

cuse its like i've always been trying to stress...
and as billy bunter evan himself states in the documently that...
PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THERE HISTROY!!!!

is what this album is doing GOD DAMN good job at...

all in all...
Very well spent £16 odd


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Posted - 2006/06/20 :  16:52:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit swansea247's homepage  Reply with quote
^^^ long story short buy it , it's great



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Posted - 2006/06/20 :  18:22:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage  Reply with quote
I just seen the TV add for this and it has Heart of Gold playing at one point, not even on the CD....odd.

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Posted - 2006/06/20 :  18:37:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
I'm sure most the people that say "I've already got them tunes" are thinking about this mix...NOT ME

where i can garentee most people havn't evan herd of some of the stuff on slipmatts mix...I HAVE

and if not... then defo MOST on billys mix!!!
YES THESE TOO



So hopefully you now understand what i meant when i said i'm not buying it because i own most of the tunes on it.

Because i DO own MOST of the tunes on all 3 CD's.

I WAS there right at the start and all the way through and the tunes/memories will be with me until i die.

...which is exactly why i don't need to buy it.

Great post though mate :)


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Posted - 2006/06/21 :  01:19:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Doc's homepage  Reply with quote
how olds your dad BTW? Sk8SiM! I'm an old twat that only loves my hardcore! wouldn't mind my kids playing any harcore CD in my van in the future! I love your posts because your passionate about what you say! even the BS! nice to see your loving the older stuff (1991-93) most people do if they are a true hardcore lover! anyway won't buy this CD because its like my first ever post on this site regarding the first album! but if you like the real older stuff and want a mainstream album check out Old Skool Rewinds vol1!

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Posted - 2006/06/21 :  06:05:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
Got my copy in today from amazon.co.jp...


Dougal's Mix was excellent for the most part and good to hear an old trance track remixed on there which i loved (Akira-Piece Of Heaven D&G rmx)

havent quite gotten around to the rest, but ill be sure to let you know my opinion means more then yours jk....but seriously it does


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Posted - 2006/06/21 :  06:16:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
billy and slipmatt's mixes look pretty nice...minus of course starjump, wtf =P did people actually play that when it was released?

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Posted - 2006/06/21 :  06:22:53  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage  Reply with quote
CD's great if you like the style of hardcore, the documentary is really well done coming from MoS, good follow up to hardcore classics.



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Posted - 2006/06/21 :  09:44:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by gloworm:
no no no mate- that's a myth- david pratley- the guy who started HS- still runs it and made the album deal with MoS and is their consultant nd every bit of the album gfrom DJ choice to artowkr to street campaign... check out the interview i found with him here...
http://www.ministryofsound.com/news/features/20060615_4



Fair enough. I'm confused though, my dad sold tickets for them and that's not the impression he got... Or was it just that Sidewinder were paying to use the name for their parties? Or is Sidewinder part of Helter Skelter even?

*edit*

Can't watch the interview BTW I have no sound...

quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:

Because i DO own MOST of the tunes on all 3 CD's.




Same. I wasn't there from the very start but I've been listening for years and I have quite the collection.


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Edited by - bulby_g on 2006/06/21 14:03:37



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