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sebastianNL
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Netherlands
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 Posted - 2016/08/29 : 09:46:17
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by sebastianNL:
If Sy & Unknown would offer something like this I would easily pay even more!
Yeah, you'd probably need more then just money to make this happen.
I'm afraid so :(
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trippnface
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United States
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Posted - 2016/08/29 : 19:13:25
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Originally posted by sebastianNL:
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Originally posted by Samination:
vladel: I don't think it will ever catch on. Even if Darren Styles or Gammer did it, considering the demographic of Hardcore. Or do rich people secretly dig Hardcore?
There is a difference here compared to Gammer/Styles doing the same, and that is Ham was not active in hardcore anymore. Although I find it quite expensive, it was an easy decision: no Ham tracks or expensive tracks, so I am in :). If Sy & Unknown would offer something like this I would easily pay even more!
****k i wish ! want sy & unknown so bad :'(
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DjZelous
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Posted - 2016/08/29 : 20:23:56
I wish for sy & unknown to get back together, but after all that shit happened, who knows if they even talk anymore
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Alexbturbo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2016/08/31 : 21:57:13
To put the pricing structure of Ham's TEN single tracks in DIGITAL ONLY format into some kind of perspective.
Being a fan of classic hard house from back in the day, when i first started getting into music in the mid '90's in my teens, I noticed that today Tidy Trax released details / pre order of their limited edition Hard Drive project that features every single release on their label - this includes ALL their sub labels and also all the mix albums released over the years.
There are 3 options with limited quantities (circa 200 iirc):
MP3 version ?199 pre order ?249 full release (if not sold out)
WAV version ?249 pre order ?299 full release (if not sold out)
Rekordbox ?299 pre order ?349 full release (if not sold out)
So, for the MP3 option, ?200 buys you the entire catalogue of the label supplied on a physical product. Compare that to just 10 digital only tracks. It's far better value for money compared to what Ham offered.
I really cant see why Ham couldn't offer some form of physical product (i.e USB drive or packaged CD) considering the total ??? involved in what he's offered.
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martinj1985
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2016/08/31 : 23:11:51
shhhh he needs to pay his bills!
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Mansy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2016/09/01 : 09:47:35
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Originally posted by martinj1985:
shhhh he needs to pay his bills!
You really hate this dont you martin ;)
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Triquatra
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2016/09/01 : 10:18:56
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Originally posted by Alexbturbo:
To put the pricing structure of Ham's TEN single tracks in DIGITAL ONLY format into some kind of perspective.
Being a fan of classic hard house from back in the day, when i first started getting into music in the mid '90's in my teens, I noticed that today Tidy Trax released details / pre order of their limited edition Hard Drive project that features every single release on their label - this includes ALL their sub labels and also all the mix albums released over the years.
There are 3 options with limited quantities (circa 200 iirc):
MP3 version ?199 pre order ?249 full release (if not sold out)
WAV version ?249 pre order ?299 full release (if not sold out)
Rekordbox ?299 pre order ?349 full release (if not sold out)
hoooooly shit!
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Samination
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Sweden
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195 hardcore releases
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Posted - 2016/09/01 : 10:45:24
10 new tracks, never been seen/released before, compared to 60+ tracks that they already have released, made their money off? A real good comparison that... and Im on the "hate dj ham" side of the arguement :P
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djDMS
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2016/09/01 : 12:38:46
Despite my 'opposition' to the idea, I would still have been tempted if I had that kind of money lying around.
Still think there should be more for the money but I can't criticise anybody who is willing to pay.
When the tracks do surface, I know I'll either be saying 'ha, I knew it was a bad idea', or 'what a Wanker, I knew I should have bought them'
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Cyrax
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2016/09/01 : 13:00:12
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Despite my 'opposition' to the idea, I would still have been tempted if I had that kind of money lying around.
Still think there should be more for the money but I can't criticise anybody who is willing to pay.
When the tracks do surface, I know I'll either be saying 'ha, I knew it was a bad idea', or 'what a Wanker, I knew I should have bought them'
You can buy them off me if you change your mind for ?15.99 ;)
I really hope he brings home the bacon though!
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Alexbturbo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2016/09/01 : 16:38:32
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Originally posted by Samination:
10 new tracks, never been seen/released before, compared to 60+ tracks that they already have released, made their money off? A real good comparison that... and Im on the "hate dj ham" side of the arguement :P
I'd say it's a perfectly valid comparison considering what was offered. For ?100 more than Ham charges for 10 tracks you get an entire label catalogue on a physical product. Judging by the way they've been selling it would appear a lot of people want to fill gaps in the back catalogue, replace vinyl rips, etc.
And Tidy Trax have been releasing on vinyl & digital for 21 years later this year - that's far more than just 60 odd releases.
To put it into perspective. If you were to buy what is currently available digitally from Tidy Trax & it's sub labels in digital format it would cost approx. gbp 3900 to do so. Instead it can be purchased on a custom hard drive for between 200-300. That is a hell of a lot on offer for the money, compared to 10 as yet unmade digital only tracks for ?100 with no guarantee they'll be any good.
My point is what you get vs value for money in both situations. Ham's option does not seem like good value for money considering he's not even delivering a physical product.
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Cyrax
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2016/09/02 : 08:10:30
just hope he doesn't make a pig's ear of it
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Bring Me Round To Love
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2016/09/02 : 12:47:11
Ham is On A Roll with this one, might need a little chesse
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Vladel
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2016/09/03 : 16:56:01
Let's turn this on its head and ask the question, how much would you pay? (If not the full ?100 or perhaps limited run). I think ?30 if I could hear previews and liked a few of them would have been my limit.
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GrahamC
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Posted - 2016/09/03 : 21:24:57
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Originally posted by Vladel:
Let's turn this on its head and ask the question, how much would you pay? (If not the full ?100 or perhaps limited run). I think ?30 if I could hear previews and liked a few of them would have been my limit.
Thats an interesting question...
I paid HU ?25 a couple of years back for a brand new HU4, would probably not go higher than that.
I don't get the whole exclusivity thing (I know some folks do) but for me, if I was selling something I would sell it to as many people as I could. In this case if I got to my 100x100 and there was still demand, use the 100x100 as a threshold to start but keep selling more, even at the same 100 a pop, if he can, why not? I never understood why you wouldn't just keep going, especially here where there is no manufacturing cost, just some bandwidth.
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