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NekoShuffle
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 Posted - 2011/03/21 : 11:39:14
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by meran05:
That may be so, but vdj is Shamefull in my eyes.
Anyone can download a craked copy n start thinking they are Real dj lol, in all they years off dj'ing iv never used it !!
and someone could just steal a pair of decks. What's your point? :)
Anyways, if you're going to allow VDJ (or other software), Automixing should not be allowed. I haven't gotten it to work well, but then, its more fun actually to be somewhat active :P
If im allowed to entry an old mix, I got a good short one. Or this might force me to make a new mix, since I havent done anything since late 2008
you cant really tell if something is automixed though, although I never used the feature in the short time I had VDJ but I'm assuming it just beatmatches and crossfades over?
lets be honest though, tight mixing is just a small part of being a good DJ, it's all in the selection and the placement of your tracks. Sy has done some technically awful mixing live but he has a brilliant selection that makes people go off.
and yep count me in! don't close the deadline too soon though, I move house tomorrow, my CDJs are all packed up and I won't have the internet for a little while.
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Bonkers4Life
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 11:54:30
you know what, im in.
Only to show you how badass VDJ is. I will use my Hercules MK4 MIDI controller with VDJ Pro, but i cant gurantee only a 30-45 min mix. I go for a minimum of 1 hour...
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Hmm, count me in as a maybe. If i get it done, i get it done. If I dont get it done by the deadline, just go on without me
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meran05
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 12:37:05
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Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by meran05:
That may be so, but vdj is Shamefull in my eyes.
Anyone can download a craked copy n start thinking they are Real dj lol, in all they years off dj'ing iv never used it !!
and someone could just steal a pair of decks. What's your point? :)
Anyways, if you're going to allow VDJ (or other software), Automixing should not be allowed. I haven't gotten it to work well, but then, its more fun actually to be somewhat active :P
If im allowed to entry an old mix, I got a good short one. Or this might force me to make a new mix, since I havent done anything since late 2008
My point is simple vdj is shite and Fake, the amount of chavs etc who boost about being a good dj when using vdj is mad,
now im not the best dj in the world, Mainly being im always drinking with friends when i make a mix,
But i have pride with every mix i make, due to the fact i have used 1210's + cdjs
Also what diffrence will it make saying Dont use Automixing or Autobeat?? (Whatever it is)
No dought ppl will still use it !!
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Edited by - meran05 on 2011/03/21 12:38:27 |
DJ-Hutchy
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 15:47:27
Count me in !!!!!
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 15:58:46
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Originally posted by meran05:
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by meran05:
That may be so, but vdj is Shamefull in my eyes.
Anyone can download a craked copy n start thinking they are Real dj lol, in all they years off dj'ing iv never used it !!
and someone could just steal a pair of decks. What's your point? :)
Anyways, if you're going to allow VDJ (or other software), Automixing should not be allowed. I haven't gotten it to work well, but then, its more fun actually to be somewhat active :P
If im allowed to entry an old mix, I got a good short one. Or this might force me to make a new mix, since I havent done anything since late 2008
My point is simple vdj is shite and Fake, the amount of chavs etc who boost about being a good dj when using vdj is mad,
now im not the best dj in the world, Mainly being im always drinking with friends when i make a mix,
But i have pride with every mix i make, due to the fact i have used 1210's + cdjs
Also what diffrence will it make saying Dont use Automixing or Autobeat?? (Whatever it is)
No dought ppl will still use it !!
unless these chav's are on this forum and wish to compete in a unpayed mix contest, what's ther to nag about?
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Mortis
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 17:52:18
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
lets be honest though, tight mixing is just a small part of being a good DJ, it's all in the selection and the placement of your tracks. Sy has done some technically awful mixing live but he has a brilliant selection that makes people go off.
So true. Look at Vibes for example, he has no idea when to bring tracks in, never has and never will but he always gets the crowd going and his CD's are usually great. That's all down to good track selection.
Tight mixing is a bit of an annoyance of mine to be honest. I find most people who have super tight mixing skills lack any kind of emotion in their mixes. It's almost as if they're so worried about making mistakes that they do "safe mixing". These are the people who are brought up believing the "mixes" (and I use that term loosely) you get on CD's are what a live set is like. They couldn't be more wrong.
A little bit of advice for starter DJ's: it's meant to be fun, not an exam. If the DJ is enjoying the set the crowd will generally feed off that energy regardless of mistakes (within reason). If the DJ is mixing like a computer then no one will be interested.
/rant.
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 18:03:14
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Originally posted by Mortis:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
lets be honest though, tight mixing is just a small part of being a good DJ, it's all in the selection and the placement of your tracks. Sy has done some technically awful mixing live but he has a brilliant selection that makes people go off.
So true. Look at Vibes for example, he has no idea when to bring tracks in, never has and never will but he always gets the crowd going and his CD's are usually great. That's all down to good track selection.
Tight mixing is a bit of an annoyance of mine to be honest. I find most people who have super tight mixing skills lack any kind of emotion in their mixes. It's almost as if they're so worried about making mistakes that they do "safe mixing". These are the people who are brought up believing the "mixes" (and I use that term loosely) you get on CD's are what a live set is like. They couldn't be more wrong.
A little bit of advice for starter DJ's: it's meant to be fun, not an exam. If the DJ is enjoying the set the crowd will generally feed off that energy regardless of mistakes (within reason). If the DJ is mixing like a computer then no one will be interested.
/rant.
a negative thing about VirtualDJ might be that if you're good enough, tight mixing is almost impossible, as you can pinpoint a track instaniously (without having to really on headphones). I might still be using 3.14, but it still have the track overview. I also have never mixed with 2 sound sources, so I basicly mix blind at times if it wheren't for the track overview
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Edited by - Samination on 2011/03/21 18:04:49 |
NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 18:13:38
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Mortis:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
lets be honest though, tight mixing is just a small part of being a good DJ, it's all in the selection and the placement of your tracks. Sy has done some technically awful mixing live but he has a brilliant selection that makes people go off.
So true. Look at Vibes for example, he has no idea when to bring tracks in, never has and never will but he always gets the crowd going and his CD's are usually great. That's all down to good track selection.
Tight mixing is a bit of an annoyance of mine to be honest. I find most people who have super tight mixing skills lack any kind of emotion in their mixes. It's almost as if they're so worried about making mistakes that they do "safe mixing". These are the people who are brought up believing the "mixes" (and I use that term loosely) you get on CD's are what a live set is like. They couldn't be more wrong.
A little bit of advice for starter DJ's: it's meant to be fun, not an exam. If the DJ is enjoying the set the crowd will generally feed off that energy regardless of mistakes (within reason). If the DJ is mixing like a computer then no one will be interested.
/rant.
a negative thing about VirtualDJ might be that if you're good enough, tight mixing is almost impossible, as you can pinpoint a track instaniously (without having to really on headphones). I might still be using 3.14, but it still have the track overview. I also have never mixed with 2 sound sources, so I basicly mix blind at times if it wheren't for the track overview
do you mean the waveform? I don't diss Virtual DJ too much because looking at waveforms did help me learn phrases and stuff and suddenly mixing made a lot more sense but I think once you understand that there's no reason to carry on using it if you have CD decks or turntables
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Mortis
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 20:20:17
The problem I had when I tried VDJ was the delay between hitting the mouse button and the track actually starting. If it didn't have the millisecond delay then it might be a decent bit of kit. Not to my liking in the slightest but in no way will I diss anyone for using it as I can't use it effectively myself, it would be like someone slagging of a DJ using vinyl because they can't mix with it themselves.
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 20:37:59
I need to correct what I said about Automixing
the automixing in VDJ isnt perfect. If you try to make a mix fully on automixing, without tweaking, be prepared for a proper clangaton :D
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Brian K
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 21:03:59
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Originally posted by Mortis:
So true. Look at Vibes for example, he has no idea when to bring tracks in, never has and never will but he always gets the crowd going and his CD's are usually great. That's all down to good track selection.
Tight mixing is a bit of an annoyance of mine to be honest. I find most people who have super tight mixing skills lack any kind of emotion in their mixes. It's almost as if they're so worried about making mistakes that they do "safe mixing". These are the people who are brought up believing the "mixes" (and I use that term loosely) you get on CD's are what a live set is like. They couldn't be more wrong.
A little bit of advice for starter DJ's: it's meant to be fun, not an exam. If the DJ is enjoying the set the crowd will generally feed off that energy regardless of mistakes (within reason). If the DJ is mixing like a computer then no one will be interested.
quoted for truth...last night I was listening to a tape of vibes from an old school room in 98. his mixing was eh but his track selection was top notch (most of the time).
and that's why I hate doing studio mixes because when I mess up I feel I have to start the whole thing over. much more fun mixing and not caring if you mess up.
may throw my hat into this...need to get a computer set up for recording in the man cave...well that and find some time between all the other projects around the house I'm trying to do =P
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Mortis
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Posted - 2011/03/21 : 21:31:32
You should do it Brian. I've not heard a mix from you since you put up the bouncy techno mix for Clarke101 a few years back.
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D-tor
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Posted - 2011/03/22 : 02:29:30
Sick, lots of replies. I'll shoot this thread around to some YouTube guys to see if they're interested.
Someone make a deadline already.
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carldj90
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Posted - 2011/03/22 : 03:00:53
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Originally posted by meran05:
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Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by meran05:
That may be so, but vdj is Shamefull in my eyes.
Anyone can download a craked copy n start thinking they are Real dj lol, in all they years off dj'ing iv never used it !!
and someone could just steal a pair of decks. What's your point? :)
Anyways, if you're going to allow VDJ (or other software), Automixing should not be allowed. I haven't gotten it to work well, but then, its more fun actually to be somewhat active :P
If im allowed to entry an old mix, I got a good short one. Or this might force me to make a new mix, since I havent done anything since late 2008
My point is simple vdj is shite and Fake, the amount of chavs etc who boost about being a good dj when using vdj is mad,
now im not the best dj in the world, Mainly being im always drinking with friends when i make a mix,
But i have pride with every mix i make, due to the fact i have used 1210's + cdjs
Also what diffrence will it make saying Dont use Automixing or Autobeat?? (Whatever it is)
No dought ppl will still use it !!
Okay. I didn't mean for you to complain this much about it, I really don't care. I'm using it since I DO NOT have money for real CDJs or a mixer. With the above being stated for the 2nd time I would hope you understand. I never said I use automixing. I can't help but use a sync button sometimes, BECAUSE VDJ is shit. Yes, we know its shit. But HELL at least I am making a god damn effort. It's better than just sitting around waiting for the money to come in so I can buy CDJs. Plus without VDJ I wouldn't even know WTF to do when I got actual CDJs.
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you have to ruin things for other people. I can have fun with it, since it is the closest thing to DJing I can get. I love hardcore and that's it man.
Cheers mate!
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2011/03/22 : 05:08:00
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Originally posted by D-tor:
Sick, lots of replies. I'll shoot this thread around to some YouTube guys to see if they're interested.
Someone make a deadline already.
i thought this was amongst hhc.com members who participate at least on occasion to these forums. it would be a bit overwhelming if we had too many participants, and probably harder to judge
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