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gobbo23
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 Posted - 2005/12/12 : 20:31:08
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Originally posted by zelachang:
Fight a gang with a gang and you just become another gangster.
I thought better of a few of you, this threads turned blatantly racist.
i fail to see this has turn blatently racist, there is a modest unpleasentness towards the approiate parties but there is nothing racist
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Posted - 2005/12/12 : 20:33:04
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GO ON MATE! SMASH 'IM!!!
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Posted - 2005/12/12 : 20:40:52
There is something wrong within islamic community, no one likes to sound racist but its the truth. There's no wonder people from nations like ours get pissed because we have to put up with it in our own countries...
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Posted - 2005/12/12 : 20:50:01
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I hope nobody innocent is going to be beatin because of race.
I think it's too late for that 
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Posted - 2005/12/12 : 20:58:48
^^^ Of course they will, thats why they should root out the people within their community which give them a bad name theirselves...
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zelachang
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Posted - 2005/12/12 : 21:43:59
When a white person does something bad, is there a "white" community that roots them out? No, you let the police take it up. I'm of Taiwanese descent. If I hear some Taiwanese guy did something retarded, do I go out and do something? Why the fvck should it be my responsibility to "root them out" just cause he happens to have the same skin color as me? I just let the authorities do THEIR WORK cause its THEIR JOB. I pay my tax dollars for them to get the bad guys.
Now I'm not siding with gang rapists and vandals. I dislike vandals and vagrants as much as the next person, fry em for all I care. But the system is there for a reason. Starting a riot isn't going to help them get their job done.
and if show the lebos what it is to be the oppressed one... isn't a desire for racially motivated hate crimes then I don't know what is.
People have been being d!cks and killing each other since humans have existed. mnmcandiez said it best: People are stupid
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Posted - 2005/12/12 : 21:56:47
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Originally posted by zelachang:
When a white person does something bad, is there a "white" community that roots them out? No, you let the police take it up. I'm of Taiwanese descent. If I hear some Taiwanese guy did something retarded, do I go out and do something? Why the fvck should it be my responsibility to "root them out" just cause he happens to have the same skin color as me? I just let the authorities do THEIR WORK cause its THEIR JOB. I pay my tax dollars for them to get the bad guys.
Now I'm not siding with gang rapists and vandals. I dislike vandals and vagrants as much as the next person, fry em for all I care. But the system is there for a reason. Starting a riot isn't going to help them get their job done.
the problem occurs when its a gang that does something wrong, then the authoritues find it very hard to find the person responable. Then thats when you get the morons who gang togather and retaliate.
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Posted - 2005/12/12 : 22:38:28
Ok here's what I've been hearing.
There was a clash last night. Well 2 really.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17551372-2,00.html
One at lakemba mosque, and another at Brighton-le Sands.
I've been talking to a lot of people about it around here, mainly victims of lebanese gangs. They agree that gangbashing is not the answer, but the police haven't been doing anything for years.
Yesterday my mate was hassled by 10 lebs getting on a bus after school. Another mate's mate has been kicked and stomped on in the past, to the point of hospitalisation AND braindamage.
I respect traditional lebanese culture, but the moment some group of thugs from any race harresses the general public, they're asking for trouble.
I dont know how to solve the problem, because now neither side is willing to compromise. The "Aussies" have been putting up with crap for years, and now want revenge, the lebs will never back down.
Just to prove that, when one of the lebs was being rescued by the police, he taunted the crowd. Dude, thats stupid. He knew the police had to save him, and once he was kinda safe, he mocked and taunted the crowd. Idiot. On any given day he would hate the cops. But not when he needs them. Faggot.
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jenks
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Posted - 2005/12/12 : 22:40:20
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Originally posted by zelachang:
When a white person does something bad, is there a "white" community that roots them out? No, you let the police take it up. I'm of Taiwanese descent. If I hear some Taiwanese guy did something retarded, do I go out and do something? Why the fvck should it be my responsibility to "root them out" just cause he happens to have the same skin color as me? I just let the authorities do THEIR WORK cause its THEIR JOB. I pay my tax dollars for them to get the bad guys.
It's not that simple, its alot harder for authorities to catch criminals from ethnic monorities because loads are immigrants, not to mention they have to be careful how they act, these days you'll be called racist if you're not kissing thier asses...
This year in my city the term 'white christmas' has been banned to keep immigrants happy, shopkeepers are often told to take down st georges crosses because they offend some immigrants... makes me sick.
Anyway, in a perfect world the other lebanese people shouldn't have to root out people in their own community, but its not, and I think they should help clear their name as a people, its for their own benefit after all.
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Posted - 2005/12/12 : 23:38:00
It's all pathetic at the end of the day.
But, like mentioned before, It's been going on for years. I've only lived in England for a few years, firstly for UNI, and have found it very confusing how the people of England have to bend backwards to please other people from other religions?! It really annoys me when things like this happen in other countries...There are a lot of different races in England now, but it always seems to be one kind that kick off a fuss.
It was the same in Ireland for hundreds of years, though for different reasons, and that too, unfortunatly spread over seas into other countries.
Things like this are very hard to prevent as the "law" just blatantly gets ignored.
Peoples views on this area can be very swayed too. Those who have become victims and have been close to the troubles or have known victims of the violence are more likely to be strong minded while the others that haven't been affected find it more easier to condemn both sides wrong doings and seek simple methods of justice.
I'm not sure if this has came out as intended (Probably not, and apologies to anyone offended for any reason- no offence intended), but this is what i've noticed from experience.
*Rant over.
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zelachang
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Posted - 2005/12/13 : 00:07:35
Well if the police aren't doing their jobs I really don't know what there is to be done. Riots are going to get innocent people hurt and doing nothing lets bad people hurt innocent people... The only thing I can think of is for the police to man up and fight the people who pull the race card so they can do their job.
And I can see why you guys are sick of the bending over backwards for other kinds of people thing, it happens in the United States all the time but not just for any one culture. Some people are just offended way too easily and dilute the word "racism" with petty, insignificant things.
I still don't get why there are some lebanese people who do stupid stuff though. Are they mostly poor? and what the hell is a wog?
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Posted - 2005/12/13 : 00:22:08
^^ I've heard the term being used to describe a black person, or wop for someone who is asian...
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Posted - 2005/12/13 : 00:36:43
No, the lebs are not poor.
Imagine chavs. Thats what they are. Exactly the same.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wog#As_a_racial_reference_in_Australian_English
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Wog is also a slang term in Australian English, denoting non-Anglo-Saxon Australians, usually people of Southern European, Mediterranean and Middle Eastern ancestry. It historically implied Italians and Greeks, Spaniards, people from the Balkans (Croatians, Bosnians, Serbians, etc.), Portuguese, and Maltese but is now mostly applied to Arabs, Turks, and Iranians: basically non-Anglo-Celtic Australians.
The problem is not with wogs, but with lebs.
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Posted - 2005/12/13 : 00:43:31
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Well if the police aren't doing their jobs I really don't know what there is to be done.
You haven't seen the footage. They are doing there job. There were police shortages in other parts of the city to try and control the mob. You should have seen one of the constables, he was swinging his bat like a maniac. Then they busted out the capsicum spray. Hectic.
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Posted - 2005/12/13 : 00:46:50
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Originally posted by silver:
I blame ADD and GTA :)
thank you jack thompson!
the minority have always ruined things for the majority and people of the same ethnicity, creed, look, nationality will continue being painted with the same brush. unfortunately this is usually due to people who don't give a toss about any of them and are just out to make some money of off it. worst thing about it is that it will never change
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