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XtarsiA
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 Posted - 2006/10/15 : 23:31:03
Ripping flash is very easy.
shant say how cos it wouldnt be appropiate!
and im game aswell!
also, wasent there some other guy on here saying something about a cd similar to this?
tbh, i prefer the idea of this than that one tho.
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lucificifus
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 00:06:34
Point of note: you can download the SWF player. However, you cannot take mp3's from that SWF :) the files are streamed in a format completely proprietary to Flash (RTMP).
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XtarsiA
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 00:17:06
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Originally posted by lucificifus:
Point of note: you can download the SWF player. However, you cannot take mp3's from that SWF :) the files are streamed in a format completely proprietary to Flash (RTMP).
tru
anyway this is going to be all unsiged talent is it not? so i for one dont really care if ppl want to download my stuff (presuming im fortunate enough to have any of my work chosen!) and share it about all over the place... for the moment.
i mean thats basicly why ur letting ppl listen for free? to spread the love as it were lol
only thing id worry about is if my name stayed on it or not!
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Underloop
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 00:19:03
quote:
Originally posted by lucificifus:
Point of note: you can download the SWF player. However, you cannot take mp3's from that SWF :) the files are streamed in a format completely proprietary to Flash (RTMP).
When the front and back doors are both locked, wait until somebody is cmonig out of the house to break in
OK, a pretty pathetic analogy, but basically you CAN get the audio in a way that doesn't involve grabbing an mp3. Its not that hard either. No streaming audio format is safe from ripping
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thecrazyg
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 02:24:54
sounds like a similar idea I have at the moment for my promotions . . . . "CORE values crew" was my idea (this been done before? if not. . shotgun! :P )
Sounds good, I dont think I have the talent to contribute though!
Hope it works out, Ill keep my ears open
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lucificifus
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 03:58:11
quote:
Originally posted by Underloop:
quote:
Originally posted by lucificifus:
Point of note: you can download the SWF player. However, you cannot take mp3's from that SWF :) the files are streamed in a format completely proprietary to Flash (RTMP).
When the front and back doors are both locked, wait until somebody is cmonig out of the house to break in
OK, a pretty pathetic analogy, but basically you CAN get the audio in a way that doesn't involve grabbing an mp3. Its not that hard either. No streaming audio format is safe from ripping
Yeah, I agree. But its a PITA  Either way...
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GeminiJ
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 05:06:54
I'm down for a mix and I'll get in touch with some people for some tunes
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The Deviant
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 09:18:45
Two months seems a decent time to get tracks in and filter the good one's out. Just in time for christmas.
What concerns me a little though is that if this album is going to be "free", why no download. If you think back to not so long ago, CLSM released their album online for free and it never did them any harm.
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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 10:43:41
quote:
Originally posted by Underloop:
quote:
Originally posted by lucificifus:
Point of note: you can download the SWF player. However, you cannot take mp3's from that SWF :) the files are streamed in a format completely proprietary to Flash (RTMP).
When the front and back doors are both locked, wait until somebody is cmonig out of the house to break in
OK, a pretty pathetic analogy, but basically you CAN get the audio in a way that doesn't involve grabbing an mp3. Its not that hard either. No streaming audio format is safe from ripping
Then if your such a smart arse mr.underloop  Then why not do that yourself so you can play it on your ipod (Hey, your trustworfy, Right?)
But the fact is, What are the chance of someone ripping a flash file?
I'm Not Saying No One Will... I'm Just Pointing Out The Blatant...
What is more likly to get riped!
a) A Flash SWF File
b) An MP3 AUDIO FILE!!!!
See What I'm saying
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Underloop
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 13:01:36
quote:
Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
quote:
Originally posted by Underloop:
quote:
Originally posted by lucificifus:
Point of note: you can download the SWF player. However, you cannot take mp3's from that SWF :) the files are streamed in a format completely proprietary to Flash (RTMP).
When the front and back doors are both locked, wait until somebody is cmonig out of the house to break in
OK, a pretty pathetic analogy, but basically you CAN get the audio in a way that doesn't involve grabbing an mp3. Its not that hard either. No streaming audio format is safe from ripping
Then if your such a smart arse mr.underloop Then why not do that yourself so you can play it on your ipod (Hey, your trustworfy, Right?)
But the fact is, What are the chance of someone ripping a flash file?
I'm Not Saying No One Will... I'm Just Pointing Out The Blatant...
What is more likly to get riped!
a) A Flash SWF File
b) An MP3 AUDIO FILE!!!!
See What I'm saying
I could well do that. The point being that (as a consumer) I'd be less likely to check out more products in the future. What I'm saying is that you would lose custom because your being awkward.
Look at all the copy protection stuff going on with CDs. Less sales on copy protected. Fair enough, less piracy too (although to the best of my knowledge all protected CDs to date HAVE been ripped and are available on various P2P sites) BUT legitimate sales are down from legitimate purchasers because they can't copy them to their ipod etc. Kind of defeats what I thought the whole aim of this project was
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 13:11:45
A great idea but I do agree with the people saying that it should be available for free download. If it's "entirely unsigned talent" then I very much doubt that the producers will have a problem with this... Sure they might be giving away tracks for nothing but exposure is the most important thing at that stage surely.
Most people "myself included" don't have the time to sit and listen to long internet streams.
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Phobz
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 13:30:48
Not trying to be funny but anybody could simply use a sound editing program and simply record what plays through there pc then save as wav, mp3 or any other format. This means they would be able to copy to cd for free anyway.
If the cd is unsigned talent I would of thought the artists would be looking more towards exposure than money. I think it should be done as a free download in mp3 format.
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XtarsiA
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 13:42:40
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Originally posted by Phobz:
Not trying to be funny but anybody could simply use a sound editing program and simply record what plays through there pc then save as wav, mp3 or any other format. This means they would be able to copy to cd for free anyway.
If the cd is unsigned talent I would of thought the artists would be looking more towards exposure than money. I think it should be done as a free download in mp3 format.
*nodding*
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lucificifus
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 14:40:51
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
A great idea but I do agree with the people saying that it should be available for free download. If it's "entirely unsigned talent" then I very much doubt that the producers will have a problem with this... Sure they might be giving away tracks for nothing but exposure is the most important thing at that stage surely.
Most people "myself included" don't have the time to sit and listen to long internet streams.
So we should go RFUGrey on this one and just release MP3s? I'm fine with whatever everyone wants to do! The reason I'm not just "doin this my way, or by myself" is because I truely want this album to be successful, and I don't think thats possible without the heavy involvement of the movers and shakers of the scene. But yeah, you've definatly convinced me that we should do MP3's I mean, hey, RFUGrey is doin it!
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XtarsiA
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Posted - 2006/10/16 : 14:50:12
id do it as CD length mixed MP3's and include CUE files for burning the mp3s to cds with track splits.
that would be the best way imo :)
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