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mnmcandiez
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 Posted - 2005/10/05 : 01:51:27
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Originally posted by Squishy Star:
Hypocritical. Exactly! Good point, Six Feet.
I have burned ants under a magnifying class, I have poured salt on slugs and chopped them in half with a shovel, and I have placed a beetle or something into a garbage can and dusted it with glitter. Yeah it does have feelings and everytime I do such a thing, I think that I will be going to hell for it (but it doesn't make a difference because I'm going to hell anyways for other reaons). But the thing is, we don't have these creatures that we're torture endlessly as pets or anything that we love...Seeing a cat or dog, or anything that's domesticated would be like seeing your own animal being hurt.
And about how we eat pork and beef...that's one thing I hate about myself. They have fear, they get slaughtered and that negative energy goes into us (maybe that's why we're such angry people?) but that's not the point. I have ideas on how they're being slaughtered, but I've never allowed myself to find out fully how they're killed. I just can't. Anyone watch that PETA video?? I only could watch like 5 seconds of it before having to exit out of the box!
Survival of the fetus -> Human survival. How we do it, SUXS! We hurt each other, we hurt animals, we're hurting the environment. We're going to end the world before we know it.
**EDIT**^^So I'm guessing, you should be killed as well - MnMCandiez. Cause you're associated with those who slaughter the cows, the pigs, the chickens the lambs. If it weren't for them, you wouldn't be able have your hamburgers, your sausages, your chicken salads, and your gyros.
Im going vegan because of the torture. I never tortured an animal in my life and dont plan on doing so. If people killed animals humanely I wouldnt have a problem with it, but they do.
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jenks
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 02:03:04
Becoming a vegan? as far as I'm aware cows aren't tortured for their milk, anyway...
I'm sorry squishy and sixfeet but an animal being slaughtered for food is not the same as letting an animal get eaten alive for our own amusement...
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Squishy Star
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 02:11:48
jenks, they're not doing it for amusement. atleast i don't think. they're using these animals for bait.
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jenks
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 02:22:51
I couldn't get on the site for more info, but wouldn't shark fishing be classed as a leasure activity (amusement) ?
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Squishy Star
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 02:37:45
Hmm...the word shark and fishing put right next to each other, didn't quite process into my head until just now. >.< My family does go fishing a lot, as a hobby, but I never would have thought of it as a form of "amusement." Enjoyment? maybe. because 1.) you're with friends. and 2.) it's like OMG!!1 when you finally do catch something. But I think we only go fishing because you get something out of it...which is food. Why else we go fishing? Not something I take up on my weekends, so I wouldn't know.
As for SHARK fishing...why are they're catching sharks anyways? Do they eat them or something? I know shark fins are like a delicacy in China...not the point though.
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Brian K
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 02:47:51
shark fin soup is a delicacy in china. how they usually catch them in international waters is they trap them in a net, chop off all their fins, then throw them back in the water.
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jenks
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 02:49:18
Oh i totally have no problem with fishing, I jus wondered if when they're fishing for shark (asuming they are for food) is there any real reason/advantage to using live bait like a dog or a cat. I'm sure ive seen shark fishing on TV where they just drag some bloody fish meat through the water and that does the trick...
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Brian K
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 02:59:25
using chum usually works to attract them, but maybe the sharks have more of an affinity to cats and dogs =P
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 03:00:33
its bonzai kittens all over again...
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 04:19:51
I'm kind of a hypocrite on this one. I dont like animal/human cruelty, but I do like bullfighting.
Don't argue with me. Its my opinion and taste.
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 04:58:29
mmm chilled monkey brains
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 12:33:51
damnit ryg0r i was gonna use maddox's picture in here
squishy cows in england get killed by getting shot in the head with an electrical bolt, instant death however i think the part that annoys most people is they're lined up and killed one by one, every cow but the first knows what is going to happen to them. does this affect my love for a steak? no
we gotta eat so i am gonna. we are just doing what almost every other animal in the world does and that is eat other animals to survive. next you'll get PETA and the RSPCA campaining for the cruelty on jazelle's caused by lion's
i also very much doubt that they'll be fishing for sharks for pleasure, it is a poorer part of the world and i'm sure they'll be fishing to sell them. would you prefer it if they used live fish instead or even dead ones? hypocritcal that is just displacing the problem not solving it. how about you convert all sharks to vegetarians and fish for them with salads?
places in the middle east would feel the exact same way as you do about our treatment of cows seeing as there are places in the world that see them as holy creatures
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Chris B
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 13:04:46
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how about you convert all sharks to vegetarians and fish for them with salads?
 your posts are top quality mate had me thinkin and laughin at same time there.
Pixies thinkin by morals and she's right you cant not feel sorry for dogs gettin thrown in water for sharks to catch, must be a scary death not exactly way anyone would want to go.
I think the main point to look at though is the different cultures thing, as six feet says one of the poorest parts of the world they aint doin this for fun. Shark meats really expensive cos it's difficult to catch, i dont think it's right us coming from a well off country and tell them how to live and take there livelihoods away.
cant say i'm an expert but does the fact that the animals are alive make it easier to catch the sharks or does it not make any difference? Think i'd need to do some research before saying i no whats right thing to do about this, but if i was poor and came from there saw a way to make some cash i'd probably be doing it aswell. But if theres no need for the animals to be alive it is unnecessary and cruel to put them through that.
In france they forcefeed geese to fatten them up, remember findin that horrible whn i was younger so only thing to do is not buy anythin you dont feel happy about i suppose.
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 13:18:14
well fishing with live bait does increase the chance of catching but you have to injure the bait first. predators naturally go after the weaker animals first. helps with sharks to have them bleeding as they are incredibly sensitive to it.
i saw the pictures just a while ago on the sun's website, yeah i don't want it happening but you have to use something to catch them, just as bad to use a fish to catch them
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Posted - 2005/10/05 : 13:27:32
Correct me if I’m wrong but as far as I know the best way to attract a shark is with blood, not by using live bait that will thrash a bit in the water. I think it's awful there catching sharks like this.
As for eating animals, everyone has to eat. I actually think it's cruel when vegetarians don't give their children meat because they need it for there bodies to develop properly.
Anyways i'll sign the petition.
*edit* didn't see your post there 6feet.
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