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HardCore Latina
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 05:43:49
When is the next one in NY?
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ecstatic_manic_erocdrah
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 05:56:03
quote: Originally posted by mark5:
quote: Originally posted by ecstatic_manic_erocdrah:
But thats awesome your trying to bring it back where it never had it.
Woah, never said that New England "never" had a hardcore following... Between 2000 and 2002, hardcore was very BIG here. Not that many big names from the UK came here, but they did get Luna-C over here for one. And that was pretty much for the last hardcore event during that hey-day. During that time, there were several local hardcore DJ's that were in high demand to spin hardcore. Spree, out from the midwest, came one time.
As the hey-day was ending, everyone got the hots for jungle. That was popular for a while, and then garage became the big thing. Recently, breaks has been at the forefront.
yeah, I'm speaking for the southern part of texas where rave culture was either way undeground and it was only for the people who actually knew what was goin on in the underground and such but the past 5 years its become real trendy with these dance groups and battles occuring with kids at parties and jesus ****ing christ there are parties being held across from high schools and rock clubs its very horrible here. Jungle was big here for a while ..I got to see Dj sage and whatever but that was the only dj I saw who was semi-big (she was off of moonshine records). But yeah it sucks. I mean if you dress up as a kandy kid or a raver here you get looked at weird and im not sh!tting you people).So its very difficult living here where I only met one kid who was into hardcore and followed the culture but don't know what happened to that kid. Anygays! Bitching doesn't help but its FYI on how things are here on the south tip (texas).
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Brian K
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 06:10:17
quote: Originally posted by HardCore Latina:
When is the next one in NY?
only one I know aboot right now
may 12th
http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?AffilID=93&EventsID=21453&PGname=Digital+Entrapment
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Jaide
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 06:24:01
if you want to drive about 5ish hours away from Chicago...in a secret direction... there's a bunch of warehouse break-in parties going on... WITH hardcore and a lot of other great music...
but.. ummm... i wouldn't know anything about that...
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Brian K
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 08:11:25
in st. louis?
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 08:38:12
You guys should move to either the UK Sydney or Japan...
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Squishy Star
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 09:04:22
latina...there's an outlaw on friday =)
and uhm...can't remember if get liberated or reunited is this weeknd, but i'm gna say get liberated. ^Bump
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Audio X
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 13:13:52
I dunno where in the Southeast you guys have been going, but there's a hardcore production company that throws an event in ATL every few weeks. Mostly outlaw warehouse parties though... small stuff around 40-50 people. Sometimes we get some big names, too. Sunrize came down last summer and rocked everyone's face off.
As for the rest of the Southeast, it really depends. I'm trying to start a scene in the Nashville area, but Breaks and DnB are really prevalent, and a lot of the people aren't open to variety in their music. They want to hear Pendulum and Breakfastaz and they want to hear it now.
The real problem with hardcore in the US is most of the ravers can't relate to it. You have your stereotypical jaded junglist soldiers, and you have your candy-flipping e-tards. The junglists hate the more edgy hardcore because it has a 4 on the floor beat and sounds too much like trance, and the candy kids hate modern UK hardcore it because it's not cheesey enough. And then you have the gabbers, and everyone else hates them. They are always right and anyone who tries to tell them any different can eat the curb. UK Hardcore is not hardcore to them. Only gabber has the right to be called that. And a lot of them are so snobbish that even Dutch gabber isn't hardcore enough. They only want to listen to 200+ bpm artcore.
The scene is really ****ed up in the US, tbh. A lot of it has to do with the Bush administration passing the RAVE act and forcefully shutting down large events, but a lot of it also has to do with the media's constant bashing of anything electronic throughout the nineties and the last decade.
Hopefully in the next couple of years after I have a few more releases under my belt, I'll actually have enough leverage to kick-start the Southeastern scene a little. I guess time will have to tell, really.
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mark5
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 15:11:33
quote: Originally posted by Audio X:
I dunno where in the Southeast you guys have been going, but there's a hardcore production company that throws an event in ATL every few weeks. Mostly outlaw warehouse parties though... small stuff around 40-50 people. Sometimes we get some big names, too. Sunrize came down last summer and rocked everyone's face off.
As for the rest of the Southeast, it really depends. I'm trying to start a scene in the Nashville area, but Breaks and DnB are really prevalent, and a lot of the people aren't open to variety in their music. They want to hear Pendulum and Breakfastaz and they want to hear it now.
The real problem with hardcore in the US is most of the ravers can't relate to it. You have your stereotypical jaded junglist soldiers, and you have your candy-flipping e-tards. The junglists hate the more edgy hardcore because it has a 4 on the floor beat and sounds too much like trance, and the candy kids hate modern UK hardcore it because it's not cheesey enough. And then you have the gabbers, and everyone else hates them. They are always right and anyone who tries to tell them any different can eat the curb. UK Hardcore is not hardcore to them. Only gabber has the right to be called that. And a lot of them are so snobbish that even Dutch gabber isn't hardcore enough. They only want to listen to 200+ bpm artcore.
The scene is really ****ed up in the US, tbh. A lot of it has to do with the Bush administration passing the RAVE act and forcefully shutting down large events, but a lot of it also has to do with the media's constant bashing of anything electronic throughout the nineties and the last decade.
Hopefully in the next couple of years after I have a few more releases under my belt, I'll actually have enough leverage to kick-start the Southeastern scene a little. I guess time will have to tell, really.
I knew there was a crew down in Atlanta throwing a hardcore event once a year, but it seems like they slipped off the radar a couple of years ago. I have not noticed anything else going on down in the south though.
Hardcore fans here in New England are different from the candy kids you mentioned. Most of the people I have been meeting recently like both the older and newer hardcore. I even met one guy that has only heard the newer stuff and when he heard some of the older tracks I was dropping, he told me they sounded weird.
In terms of US ravers not being able to appreciate it, it all depends on where you are. Spree and MC ADB are keeping it strong out in the midwest. Southern Cali has been having several large hardcore parties. Seattle seems to have gotten a seen to pop up out of nowhere. They brought Silver over not to long ago for one of theirs. New York has some events coming up very soon. And Ohio seems to be growing a large candy kid population these days too.
I agree that the rave act did not help anyone at all. It did hurt the rave scene overall in New England, but it is recovering. Everyone is getting used to playing by the new rules or being much more careful with their outlaws. There are still plenty of events happening in legal venues here.
Like I said before, I am working on regrowing the hardcore scene in New England. If you get things going in your part of the south, I can spin whenever I am down visiting my parents.
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 15:17:13
as for the events in new york, props to the man ritalin!
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 16:40:00
southern cali is where its at
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 16:48:02
quote: Originally posted by Audio X:
And then you have the gabbers, and everyone else hates them. They are always right and anyone who tries to tell them any different can eat the curb. UK Hardcore is not hardcore to them. Only gabber has the right to be called that.
sound like my kinda ravers
only kidding i see what you mean there needs to be a variety especially if the scenes so small over your way
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bite the curb candy
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 17:25:46
quote: Originally posted by Brian K:
in st. louis?
uh huh... maybe... we go where ever the bolt cutters allow...
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Brian K
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Posted - 2006/04/05 : 22:30:18
quote: Originally posted by Audio X:
The real problem with hardcore in the US is most of the ravers can't relate to it. You have your stereotypical jaded junglist soldiers, and you have your candy-flipping e-tards. The junglists hate the more edgy hardcore because it has a 4 on the floor beat and sounds too much like trance, and the candy kids hate modern UK hardcore it because it's not cheesey enough. And then you have the gabbers, and everyone else hates them. They are always right and anyone who tries to tell them any different can eat the curb. UK Hardcore is not hardcore to them. Only gabber has the right to be called that. And a lot of them are so snobbish that even Dutch gabber isn't hardcore enough. They only want to listen to 200+ bpm artcore.
I know all of those people I used to be in the gabber group =P
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Posted - 2006/04/06 : 01:40:06
quote: Originally posted by Audio X:
I dunno where in the Southeast you guys have been going, but there's a hardcore production company that throws an event in ATL every few weeks. Mostly outlaw warehouse parties though... small stuff around 40-50 people. Sometimes we get some big names, too. Sunrize came down last summer and rocked everyone's face off.
As for the rest of the Southeast, it really depends. I'm trying to start a scene in the Nashville area, but Breaks and DnB are really prevalent, and a lot of the people aren't open to variety in their music. They want to hear Pendulum and Breakfastaz and they want to hear it now.
The real problem with hardcore in the US is most of the ravers can't relate to it. You have your stereotypical jaded junglist soldiers, and you have your candy-flipping e-tards. The junglists hate the more edgy hardcore because it has a 4 on the floor beat and sounds too much like trance, and the candy kids hate modern UK hardcore it because it's not cheesey enough. And then you have the gabbers, and everyone else hates them. They are always right and anyone who tries to tell them any different can eat the curb. UK Hardcore is not hardcore to them. Only gabber has the right to be called that. And a lot of them are so snobbish that even Dutch gabber isn't hardcore enough. They only want to listen to 200+ bpm artcore.
The scene is really ****ed up in the US, tbh. A lot of it has to do with the Bush administration passing the RAVE act and forcefully shutting down large events, but a lot of it also has to do with the media's constant bashing of anything electronic throughout the nineties and the last decade.
Hopefully in the next couple of years after I have a few more releases under my belt, I'll actually have enough leverage to kick-start the Southeastern scene a little. I guess time will have to tell, really.
umm those problems didn't just arise b/c of that idiot bush but just becuase there are people who think they are more credible becuas ethey been in scene since ****in 1980 and been around when disco transitioned to house..lmao! There are so many problems amongst clubbers/ravers/junglists/hardcores/gabber/kandy kids/ravers and oldskoolers. I dunno some people are so cliche and lame. Again, the south is texas! lol..c'mon people there are is another half of states that are being iggied.
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