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News: PAID - Producers Against Illegal Downloads

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sky144
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Posted - 2008/01/13 :  16:53:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit sky144's homepage  Reply with quote
I agree that people should pay for there music but some time the option is not there. Hardcore tracks take ages to come out. Take raverbaby for example there's tracks that I've heard ages ago and I'm waiting to come out to come out. It takes months even years.
how difficult can it be to get imodownload.com or similar to distribute your tracks. If people can get there music legally they might not take to piracy.


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Edited by - sky144 on 2008/01/13 17:00:17
__CMC__
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Posted - 2008/01/13 :  18:12:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit __CMC__'s homepage  Reply with quote
I posted on the HTID forum ages ago about this, no response no nothing!

**** it till hixxy gets his finger out i'll still get them digitally, but on that note i would like to point out i own 100's of records, 100's of cd's and i am hitting well over 100 gig of wav/mp3 files that have been aqquired legally from the record pools (hiphop, R&B and commercal house) or bought from trackitdown, juno, etc. (hardstyle, hardcore, trance and electro house)


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Edited by - __CMC__ on 2008/01/13 18:13:56
Samination
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Posted - 2008/01/13 :  19:06:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
to go back on topic... what has PAID done?

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FingazMc
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Posted - 2008/01/14 :  18:55:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit FingazMc's homepage  Reply with quote
Even if magically all the P2P programs were shutdown and all the t/orrent sites were closed piracy would still be majorly about.....Its just as easy to rip an internet radio station or grab audio from a myspace page or grab the video and/or audio from youtube videos, well any java or flash type thing for that matter.
Cant see the problem ever going away but i spose its one of those things that happens when a style of music goes commercial.
Shame really that all the Dj's and producers etc in hardcore finally get the chance to make money after all these years and there skimped majorly by piracy.


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Edited by - FingazMc on 2008/01/14 18:55:49
Samination
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Posted - 2008/01/14 :  19:29:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
well personally, I havent heard about any actions taken by PAID (that atleast didnt have a long effect), but I don't think it's that easy to just get the bad guy(s).

possible, the only thing they could do is either mail the offendant, or play the same game as RIAA in the states does, high stake law suits (but UK Court system works different from the US)


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l0fls
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Posted - 2008/12/04 :  06:20:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit l0fls's homepage  Reply with quote
i disagree i think downloading illegally is an amazing thing but then if i really love a track i will buy the record.
i am a hardcore ******* junkie.


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silver
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Posted - 2008/12/04 :  07:30:27  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage  Reply with quote
^^^ your not a hardcore fan your a hardcore leech and no help to anyone. You can't pick and choose what you pay for in a supermarket... oh I don't like this food so I'm not going to pay for it... weak argument, if you like it enough to pirate it you like it enough to buy it.

You want free hardcore tune into the radio on this site, 100% free, 100% legal.


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mitchy_boy
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Posted - 2008/12/04 :  09:51:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit mitchy_boy's homepage  Reply with quote
I much prefer having the actual cd in my possesion, and u feel good noing that some producer or band is being rewarded for their hardwork and talent.

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Edited by - mitchy_boy on 2008/12/04 09:51:59
Starstruck
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Posted - 2008/12/04 :  11:09:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Starstruck's homepage  Reply with quote
It's extremely selfish and arrogant to obtain your music so freely like that.

I am 15 years old i don't even have a job, but with present money or from jobs i do to receive money, a large percentage goes towards music purchase.

Starstruck.


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ravekutz
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Posted - 2008/12/04 :  11:48:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ravekutz's homepage  Reply with quote
That's a great cause paid! So good to see someone out there is doing something about it. Basically if you download hardcore illegally your a thieving prick. Download trance instead, those guys make to much money anyway.

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Mental_Adam
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Posted - 2008/12/05 :  14:36:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mental_Adam's homepage  Reply with quote
If you ask me it's the Music industry who is to blame for all this mess... Not people. They knew this would happen when the internet was created... They only make this happen as all it doe's is cause more of your music freedoms to be taken away and it creates money.... I don't see the harm in say a friend sending 1 track to another friend on a chat programme like msn.. So when you mean 'Don't FileShare'.. Doe's that mean you can no longer send any of your contacts a music file?

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Mental_Adam
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Posted - 2008/12/05 :  14:40:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mental_Adam's homepage  Reply with quote
Don't get me wrong... I've been a member of this forum for awhile and i've bought and sold alot of music products of auctions etc... But i've just become tired of the high prices CDs are, i now wait months and months down the line as the product will finally be slashed at least 3X it's value and due to the current situation in the UK i think no one wants to pay £15 and then discover a few months down the line it's only £4... You can see why people result to piracy though?

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Edited by - Mental_Adam on 2008/12/05 14:44:14
Jax
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Posted - 2008/12/05 :  18:31:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Jax's homepage  Reply with quote
lol



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Samination
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Posted - 2008/12/06 :  08:04:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
lets take a logical look at it (without the oppinion on if its wrong or right).

Is downloading stealing? If so, then the source would be removed, but it's not?

Mental_Adam: No one KNEW what the internet would become. Seriously, the speeds where equal to regular serial port on your computer, so it wasn't worth more than posting on BBS or whatever it was called back in the 70's/80's.

I do agree that they took the wrong way to look at the digital market at an early stage, but look at it at this;
Artists hated it when Grammophones entered the game.
The same thing happened when the CD entered the game.
Heck, Beatles' album where the last well known band to get their stuff released on CD, and so far there no legal mp3 store that sells Beatles


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Edited by - Samination on 2008/12/06 08:10:05
oscarwildone
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Posted - 2009/01/05 :  17:39:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit oscarwildone's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Deviant:
You have got to think about who and why some of these people are going down the illegal download route. If you have a young teenager who doesn't have a credit card and they can't borrow their parents, and they want a tune that's not on the latest bonkers or whatever hardcore compilation, then illegal downloads are they only way they can get it. Im not saying it's ok to download illegally, but there are times when peolple who have money, have no way to pay for things.





yes they do. its called paypal


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