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Hard2Get
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 Posted - 2006/10/06 : 16:20:20
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
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Originally posted by hardcorelover:
dear god. hardcore feelings isnt happy gabber!!!
I do not recognise 'happy gabber' as as genre. However the cheesy dutch stuff in the mid 90s tended to be faster with less distorsion and kick than some of the gabber we might be familiar with.
yes it is
There's two mixes of "Hardcore feelings", one is a happy gabber mix
and the other one is one that got popular
buy the record. you'll see.
It's the same with Your Smile, the Hard mix of that is wicked :)
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Posted - 2006/10/06 : 18:32:12
happy gabber is the name ppl outside holland belgium and germany use to indicate the oldskool hardcore/gabber that was released in these parts during the years when the charts were swamped with happy hardcore. through this massive popularity of happycore some producers started releasing music slightly harder than happycore but not as dark/hard as the gabber of before. this resulted in what you folks now know as happy gabber (in these parts it's a ********-term, it's just oldskool to us)
examples: just search the tracklist of cd's like thunderdome 9, 10 or 11. the cheese litterally drips off of those albums :p
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Posted - 2006/10/06 : 18:34:39
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
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Originally posted by hardcorelover:
dear god. hardcore feelings isnt happy gabber!!!
I do not recognise 'happy gabber' as as genre. However the cheesy dutch stuff in the mid 90s tended to be faster with less distorsion and kick than some of the gabber we might be familiar with.
yes it is
There's two mixes of "Hardcore feelings", one is a happy gabber mix
and the other one is one that got popular
buy the record. you'll see.
It's the same with Your Smile, the Hard mix of that is wicked :)
agreed :)
I got both of those last year and I was so happy lol
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Posted - 2006/10/06 : 21:50:09
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Originally posted by Knightmare:
happy gabber is the name ppl outside holland belgium and germany use to indicate the oldskool hardcore/gabber that was released in these parts during the years when the charts were swamped with happy hardcore. through this massive popularity of happycore some producers started releasing music slightly harder than happycore but not as dark/hard as the gabber of before. this resulted in what you folks now know as happy gabber (in these parts it's a ********-term, it's just oldskool to us)
examples: just search the tracklist of cd's like thunderdome 9, 10 or 11. the cheese litterally drips off of those albums :p
or as i said before and you jus wont listen to the ppl that grown up with gabber !! indeed m8 its oldskool also known as (early) rave !!
THERE AINT NO FOOKIN HAPPY GABBER!!
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Posted - 2006/10/06 : 22:35:13
wow... look at all you guys beating yourself up over a genre name  haha
Ok listen... To My Knowledge 
First...
Listen to your typical gabba track (But make sure its from around 97-99)
Then...
Grab yourself any "bouncy techno" track (also from around the time of 97-99)
Now tell me... what part of the song is pretty much the same?
Yep *Nods Heads* that Distorted Gabba kick... (might not be as fast as the other, or as hard... but its still pretty much the same)
I've herd the term "happy gabba" plenty of times... and in my book, its just classed as another name for "bouncy techno"
Gabba - doesn't have to be dark 
If you get a bouncy techno song, sped it up abit... and pitched all the melodys to a lower note (so they sound darker)... Then you'd have "gabba" (cuse its not happy anymore)
Thefore the other name for "bouncy techno" was "happy gabba"
^^^^makes sense don't it 
That What i've been led to beleave anyways, i thought it was just genral knowlende of the odd hardcore fanatic... But i guess not, this topic has made me feel abit more openminded... Not too sure now 
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Posted - 2006/10/06 : 22:42:54
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
wow... look at all you guys beating yourself up over a genre name haha
Ok listen... To My Knowledge
First...
Listen to your typical gabba track (But make sure its from around 97-99)
Then...
Grab yourself any "bouncy techno" track (also from around the time of 97-99)
Now tell me... what part of the song is pretty much the same?
Yep *Nods Heads* that Distorted Gabba kick... (might not be as fast as the other, or as hard... but its still pretty much the same)
I've herd the term "happy gabba" plenty of times... and in my book, its just classed as another name for "bouncy techno"
Gabba - doesn't have to be dark
If you get a bouncy techno song, sped it up abit... and pitched all the melodys to a lower note (so they sound darker)... Then you'd have gabba (cuse its not happy anymore)
Thefore the other name for "bouncy techno" was "happy gabba"
^^^^makes sense don't it
That What i've been led to beleave anyways, i thought it was just genral knowlende of the odd hardcore fanatic... But i guess not, this topic has made me feel abit more openminded... Not too sure now
bouncy techno? happy gabba? you said it urself gabba has no dark side.. gabba dont have a happy side either its jus a nice bassline, kicks and w/e the melodie or text is.. its all bout the ppl enjoyin it.. gabber = gabber there aint no side genre's if there are they are called OLDSKOOL OR (EARLY) RAVE not happy gabber or bouncy techno >< (techno is most germans and gabber dutch so dun mix those 2 up.. <_< )
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Posted - 2006/10/07 : 00:05:24
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Originally posted by dj bugbear:bouncy techno? happy gabba? you said it urself gabba has no dark side.. gabba dont have a happy side either its jus a nice bassline, kicks and w/e the melodie or text is.. its all bout the ppl enjoyin it.. gabber = gabber there aint no side genre's if there are they are called OLDSKOOL OR (EARLY) RAVE not happy gabber or bouncy techno >< (techno is most germans and gabber dutch so dun mix those 2 up.. <_< )
So what about "Terrorcore" or "Rottadam (Dutch Hardcore)" - these are styles of gabba... You have to remember that gabba was around before any UK hardcore... I can asure you now that there is more then one style of gabba...
Rottadam is a Subgenre of hardcore - yes
But rottodam is also a Style of "gabba" - witch is a "cataogry" of music (not genre)
and that "Cataogry" ONLY fulls under the Genre of "Hardcore Dance" as Gabba is made up of high speeds!
Gabba = "Pretty much" anything thing with a distorted kick and/or bass and is fast... (i don't know the details though, so don't ask)
Rottodam & terrorcore are forms of This ^^^ i.e. "gabba"
so is happy gabba - i.e. "bouncy techno" - is still gabba no matter what anyone says...
I here what your saying about the whole "techno" thing though... But "techno" is a "genre" of its own... nothng to do with hardcore! and "bouncy techno" is a subgenre of "hardcore dance"...
Soooo... Its not really techno, is it
I hear what your saying Though mate...
Having thinking about it..."Happy gabba" probs is the better name for the music... as its says what it is on the tin!
However... "techno" on a whole, is pretty much dead these days (But then its alwyas remained pretty underground)
Alot of techno producer lost what to do with the genre as it didn't have alot of vaerity to it, the stuff was awful, and it basiclly remained the "experimental" genre of all EDM!
(i.e. if you hear a new style of music? - mostly likly came from a techno subgenre first!)
These days, Techno is just a sterotype for all EDM music to any narrowminded **** or someone who hasn't got a scooby doo about it...
So my guess would be (not knowleadge) is that the name "bouncy techno" came from the same type of people :)
as Most Bouncy techno I've herd is baced in the UK... I'm guessing it was us brits who herd gabba, didn't have a scooby WHAT THE **** it was... so decided to call it techno!
who knows... ^^^ I'm chatting shit now lol
^^^ Some knowleadge there, some opinions, take what you want from it
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Posted - 2006/10/07 : 06:58:27
Don't start fighting over this shit, I just wanted to hear it, SF has a Happy Gabber scene, correct?!
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Posted - 2006/10/07 : 10:28:07
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
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Originally posted by dj bugbear:bouncy techno? happy gabba? you said it urself gabba has no dark side.. gabba dont have a happy side either its jus a nice bassline, kicks and w/e the melodie or text is.. its all bout the ppl enjoyin it.. gabber = gabber there aint no side genre's if there are they are called OLDSKOOL OR (EARLY) RAVE not happy gabber or bouncy techno >< (techno is most germans and gabber dutch so dun mix those 2 up.. <_< )
So what about "Terrorcore" or "Rottadam (Dutch Hardcore)" - these are styles of gabba... You have to remember that gabba was around before any UK hardcore... I can asure you now that there is more then one style of gabba...
Rottadam is a Subgenre of hardcore - yes
But rottodam is also a Style of "gabba" - witch is a "cataogry" of music (not genre)
and that "Cataogry" ONLY fulls under the Genre of "Hardcore Dance" as Gabba is made up of high speeds!
Gabba = "Pretty much" anything thing with a distorted kick and/or bass and is fast... (i don't know the details though, so don't ask)
Rottodam & terrorcore are forms of This ^^^ i.e. "gabba"
so is happy gabba - i.e. "bouncy techno" - is still gabba no matter what anyone says...
I here what your saying about the whole "techno" thing though... But "techno" is a "genre" of its own... nothng to do with hardcore! and "bouncy techno" is a subgenre of "hardcore dance"...
Soooo... Its not really techno, is it
I hear what your saying Though mate...
Having thinking about it..."Happy gabba" probs is the better name for the music... as its says what it is on the tin!
However... "techno" on a whole, is pretty much dead these days (But then its alwyas remained pretty underground)
Alot of techno producer lost what to do with the genre as it didn't have alot of vaerity to it, the stuff was awful, and it basiclly remained the "experimental" genre of all EDM!
(i.e. if you hear a new style of music? - mostly likly came from a techno subgenre first!)
These days, Techno is just a sterotype for all EDM music to any narrowminded **** or someone who hasn't got a scooby doo about it...
So my guess would be (not knowleadge) is that the name "bouncy techno" came from the same type of people :)
as Most Bouncy techno I've herd is baced in the UK... I'm guessing it was us brits who herd gabba, didn't have a scooby WHAT THE **** it was... so decided to call it techno!
who knows... ^^^ I'm chatting shit now lol
^^^ Some knowleadge there, some opinions, take what you want from it
i guess that part form brits heared gabba and called it techno is the whole problem..
techno on the other hands still active.. in germany and thats the only country playin it :)
bout terrorcore... i call it jus terror and that comes mainly from the undergrounds of rotterdam.. rotterdam and no style .. its that the most of em that come from there developped there own kinda of gabber still callin it gabber only thats the hard shit.. not the more happy gabba produced by party animals and paul elstak (who moved on to harder styled gabber later tho)
if you call rotterdam a style then i declare zaandam as one too couse thats where it all begon with mindcontroller and im not sure but i guess thunderdome started there aswell ?? rotterdam does have a subculture in gabber but as a stand alone gabber style? no..
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Posted - 2006/10/07 : 10:55:20
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[So what about "Terrorcore" or "Rottadam (Dutch Hardcore)" - these are styles of gabba...
basicly these two terms are (again) not used in these parts.
We had terror but some yankee decided to put "core" behind it to signify a style like de;lta-9 and DOA (so instead of differenciating from track to track whether or not it's terror or just plain gabber they decided to invent a new genre... lazy SOB's :p).
Rotterdam is also a ******** term. It was all hardcore, some of it came from R'dam, sure but what about all the other dutch core? or the stuff that sounds like dutch core but isn't?
Just stick to gabber or hardcore to put a name on it. R'dam's a city, not a musicstyle
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Posted - 2006/10/07 : 14:25:03
Bouncy Techno was Scottish Hardcore, think Bass Generator etc :P
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techno on the other hands still active.. in germany and thats the only country playin it :)
Techno is very popular all over the world :P
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Posted - 2006/10/07 : 20:56:37
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Bouncy Techno was Scottish Hardcore, think Bass Generator etc :P
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techno on the other hands still active.. in germany and thats the only country playin it :)
Techno is very popular all over the world :P
yeah I was gonna say =P the sweds may be taking the title from america here soon
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Posted - 2006/10/08 : 10:40:51
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Bouncy Techno was Scottish Hardcore, think Bass Generator etc :P
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techno on the other hands still active.. in germany and thats the only country playin it :)
Techno is very popular all over the world :P
yeah I was gonna say =P the sweds may be taking the title from america here soon
issit :? hmm a well :p
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Posted - 2006/10/08 : 14:00:00
You might be thinking of Schranz, but that is still popular in alot of places :P
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Posted - 2006/10/08 : 15:59:15
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Bouncy Techno was Scottish Hardcore, think Bass Generator etc :P
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techno on the other hands still active.. in germany and thats the only country playin it :)
Techno is very popular all over the world :P
true, we have a massive techno scene.
not a big fan of it though :s
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