My Area
Register
Donate
Help
FAQ
About us
Links
Articles
Competitions
Interviews
About HHC.com DJs
T-shirts and merchandise
Profile
Register
Active Topics
Topic Stats
Members
Search
Bookmarks
Add event
Label search
Artist search
Release / Track search

Raver's online
 Total online 2390
 Radio listeners 164+
Email Us!
Username: Password:

  Lost password
 Remember my login 
 All forums
 Music discussion - hardcore
 

45 and 33

 Printer friendly
Page: 
of 5

Author Thread  
Meph751
Advanced Member



United States
1,488 posts
Joined: Dec, 2005
Meph751 has attended 1 event
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  01:39:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meph751's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by raindancerob:
as i said above if you can mix it doesnt matter



are you educated? do you understand english? all i am saying is that 33's and 45's are clearly different, and some people (myself included) much prefer mixing with 45's because they find 33's harder to use. harder does not mean impossible. it doesn't mean i only mix 45's. it just means its more difficult.


__________________________________
Buy my records! :)
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=Meph


Alert moderator Go to top of page
Edited by - Meph751 on 2007/12/16 01:39:24
silver
Admin



Japan
12,579 posts
Joined: Feb, 2001


894 hardcore releases
silver is verified hardcore artist silver is a site donation subscriber silver has attended 108 events
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  03:35:40  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage  Reply with quote
The further spaced out the grooves are on a record the better sound quality, you can fit around 14 mins on a record at 45 before you have to start to reduce the quality of it. 33 is 18 mins I believe. Yes 45 sounds better than 33 because it spins faster and the cuts and grooves in a record are more spread out (due to the speed). But to an average person they wont notice the difference between 33 and 45, it's really down to how good the guy making the metal work for the vinyl is.

Anything higher than that they have reduced the quality, you don't notice the different in your parents albums because you never heard the very orginial, I'm sure it sounded different.


Alert moderator Go to top of page
raindance-rob
Average Member



United Kingdom
194 posts
Joined: Aug, 2007
raindance-rob has attended 13 events
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  06:46:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindance-rob's homepage  Reply with quote
Meph751 you have an attitude problem do uno that



Alert moderator Go to top of page
raindance-rob
Average Member



United Kingdom
194 posts
Joined: Aug, 2007
raindance-rob has attended 13 events
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  08:29:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindance-rob's homepage  Reply with quote
? what about 78's then silver ? iv never heard one.



Alert moderator Go to top of page
bulby_g
Advanced Member



United Kingdom
7,205 posts
Joined: Apr, 2004


430 hardcore releases
bulby_g has attended 55 events
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  10:15:20  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
Track times vary depending on the type of plate and the overall loudness. The following track times are recommendations based on maximum loudness. Tracks that exceed the maximum length can still be cut, but may be subject to a reduction in loudness.

12 inch 7-8 minutes per side
10 inch 5-6 minutes per side
7 inch 3-3:30 minutes per side

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

12 inch*
10 inch*
7 inch**

*Maximum number of tracks per side: 2
**Maximum number of tracks per side: 1


__________________________________
www.myspace.com/bulbyg


Alert moderator Go to top of page
clarke101
Advanced Member



United Kingdom
3,839 posts
Joined: Jun, 2003


185 hardcore releases
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  10:38:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit clarke101's homepage  Reply with quote
where did you copy those from? I think we all know that 2 tracks isn't the maximum for a 12".

__________________________________
Panda Style




Alert moderator Go to top of page
bulby_g
Advanced Member



United Kingdom
7,205 posts
Joined: Apr, 2004


430 hardcore releases
bulby_g has attended 55 events
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  10:51:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
They're from dubstudio. That's how many he will put on.

Sorry should have made that clearer :P


__________________________________
www.myspace.com/bulbyg




Alert moderator Go to top of page
Edited by - bulby_g on 2007/12/16 11:18:24
clarke101
Advanced Member



United Kingdom
3,839 posts
Joined: Jun, 2003


185 hardcore releases
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  12:22:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit clarke101's homepage  Reply with quote
I guessed it was from somewhere like that. Any idea what that's on material wise.

__________________________________
Panda Style




Alert moderator Go to top of page
bulby_g
Advanced Member



United Kingdom
7,205 posts
Joined: Apr, 2004


430 hardcore releases
bulby_g has attended 55 events
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  13:18:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
Yea they're proper vinyl dubs.

__________________________________
www.myspace.com/bulbyg




Alert moderator Go to top of page
Meph751
Advanced Member



United States
1,488 posts
Joined: Dec, 2005
Meph751 has attended 1 event
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  15:42:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meph751's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by raindancerob:
Meph751 you have an attitude problem do uno that



we're having a perfectly fine discussion and then out of nowhere you come in with this:

quote:
you find it harder to mix with 33's then 45's wtf its the bpm not the speed of the rpm, learn to mix.


i find that slightly more than a little bit belligerent, as well as an incredibly stupid thing to say, because if you had a shred of reading comprehension you would see that nowhere were we discussing the bpm of tracks. your comment was offensive, as well as stupid.



__________________________________
Buy my records! :)
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=Meph


Alert moderator Go to top of page
Edited by - Meph751 on 2007/12/16 15:44:10
Dain-Ja
Advanced Member



Canada
1,983 posts
Joined: Oct, 2004
Dain-Ja has attended 11 events
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  16:12:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
raindancerob is clearly an idiot, just ignore him

even if someone that "can mix" will have no trouble with it, that doesn't mean it's not harder to mix on 33 in the first place (it wasn't for me cause I learnt both at the same time)

and silver: I most definitely notice the difference in sound quality

that doesn't mean 45s can't sound bad, they often do (damn Next Gen), but my best 45s sound way better than my best 33s


__________________________________
Producer/DJ/Label owner
Rush Delivery Records

Visit makemeRUSH.com for music from the ONLY North American hardcore label pressing vinyl!

FREE track every Monday: http://www.rushdeliveryrecords.com/?p=229


Alert moderator Go to top of page
__CMC__
Advanced Member



United Kingdom
593 posts
Joined: Aug, 2007
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  16:35:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit __CMC__'s homepage  Reply with quote
So anyone got more info on the question i asked previously?

If the sound quality ain't as good on a 33 since all the hiphop/r&b labels (major labels) press there vinyl at 33 is this just for the minority that will be djing (doing tricks) with them?


Alert moderator Go to top of page
raindance-rob
Average Member



United Kingdom
194 posts
Joined: Aug, 2007
raindance-rob has attended 13 events
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  20:16:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindance-rob's homepage  Reply with quote
mixing is about bpm not rpm



Alert moderator Go to top of page
Meph751
Advanced Member



United States
1,488 posts
Joined: Dec, 2005
Meph751 has attended 1 event
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  20:30:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meph751's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by raindancerob:
mixing is about bpm not rpm



you are so unbelievably stupid i can't even comprehend it


__________________________________
Buy my records! :)
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=Meph


Alert moderator Go to top of page
Vitalism
Advanced Member



Canada
1,707 posts
Joined: Oct, 2005
Posted - 2007/12/16 :  20:42:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage  Reply with quote
mixing is about both actually, i think so anyways... probably more so about bpm than rpm... again in my mind.

goal for mixing = make the bpms identical.

rpm doesn't have muuuuuuch to do with mixing, as far as i can understand, except for sound quality.


Alert moderator Go to top of page



New PostPost Reply
Topic is 5 pages long: 1  2  3  4  5
 Printer friendly
  Verified artist
   Donating member How to donate

It took 1.3 ninja's to process this page!

HappyHardcore.com

    

1999 - 2026 HappyHardcore.com
audio: PRS for music. Build: 3.1.73.1

Go to top of page