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Meph751
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Posted - 2007/12/21 :  03:41:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meph751's homepage  Reply with quote
ok we clearly are not understanding each other...

i seriously understand what you are saying. rpm doesn't matter to mixing in the sense that bpms are used to beatmatch and both a 33 and 45 can be doing 175 bpm, and thus, be mixed together. i *do* understand that. i've mixed a 33 into a 45, etc etc blah blah. yes, i can do it.

what i am trying to say is that when you "push" a 33 to get the kicks lined up, the bend sounds a LOT more noticable and to me, it's harder to push it to get it lined up. i've got very little free time lately, and very few 33's, so i rarely mix them, and as such, it's harder to me to adjust to the difference. can i do it? yes. but it's still more difficult.


that is all.


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raindance-rob
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Posted - 2007/12/21 :  03:43:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindance-rob's homepage  Reply with quote
& what im saying is that it shouldnt make a difference if you can mix



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Edited by - raindance-rob on 2007/12/21 03:45:15
Lilley
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Posted - 2007/12/21 :  04:03:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Lilley's homepage  Reply with quote
im with you meph, calm down mate. some people just dont take well to simple concepts

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raindance-rob
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Posted - 2007/12/21 :  07:28:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindance-rob's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lilley:
im with you meph, calm down mate. some people just dont take well to simple concepts




clearly


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bulby_g
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Posted - 2007/12/21 :  09:17:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
Beat matching is done to BPM obviously.

When the RPM is slower then touching the deck will have a greater effect yes.

Just learn the difference and be a bit more gentle. Simple.


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__CMC__
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Posted - 2007/12/21 :  09:31:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit __CMC__'s homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Meph751:
ok we clearly are not understanding each other...

i seriously understand what you are saying. rpm doesn't matter to mixing in the sense that bpms are used to beatmatch and both a 33 and 45 can be doing 175 bpm, and thus, be mixed together. i *do* understand that. i've mixed a 33 into a 45, etc etc blah blah. yes, i can do it.

what i am trying to say is that when you "push" a 33 to get the kicks lined up, the bend sounds a LOT more noticable and to me, it's harder to push it to get it lined up. i've got very little free time lately, and very few 33's, so i rarely mix them, and as such, it's harder to me to adjust to the difference. can i do it? yes. but it's still more difficult.


that is all.



Reading this thread the only conclusion i can draw from it is your to heavy handed and should learn to mix better!

Am with silver i never knew this was an issue till i saw this thread


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raindance-rob
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Posted - 2007/12/21 :  17:47:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindance-rob's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by __CMC__:
quote:
Originally posted by Meph751:
ok we clearly are not understanding each other...

i seriously understand what you are saying. rpm doesn't matter to mixing in the sense that bpms are used to beatmatch and both a 33 and 45 can be doing 175 bpm, and thus, be mixed together. i *do* understand that. i've mixed a 33 into a 45, etc etc blah blah. yes, i can do it.

what i am trying to say is that when you "push" a 33 to get the kicks lined up, the bend sounds a LOT more noticable and to me, it's harder to push it to get it lined up. i've got very little free time lately, and very few 33's, so i rarely mix them, and as such, it's harder to me to adjust to the difference. can i do it? yes. but it's still more difficult.


that is all.



Reading this thread the only conclusion i can draw from it is your to heavy handed and should learn to mix better!

Am with silver i never knew this was an issue till i saw this thread



agreed defo mate


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Meph751
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Posted - 2007/12/21 :  20:30:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meph751's homepage  Reply with quote
oh my god what part of this do you not understand?

I CAN MIX 33's. it's just more difficult... christ you people are thick ;)

i'm not a ****in dj by trade and i'm sorry if my not having hours every day to devote to dj'ing in order to "remove" the difference i feel between 33's and 45's offends you, but at this point in my life i have more important things to deal with.

just because you can't feel the difference doesn't mean it's not there. if you think for a bit you'll understand that the difference between the two rpm speeds is factual and not something i've fabricated and you really can't argue with the fact that it exists...


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chappy_hardcore
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Posted - 2007/12/21 :  23:03:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit chappy_hardcore's homepage  Reply with quote
JAKAZiD i have the Hardcore EP12 with your 'Can't Hold Back' tune on it, i put into a mix, and it sounds way quiter and low quality compared to its surrounding tracks.

Amazing tune tho!


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