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Ken Masters
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 Posted - 2008/12/16 : 18:15:31
I'm wondering if anyone can help me here. I've started to listen to much more Hardscape these days & i'm certainly going to play much more of it in the future but I can't understand what the main difference is between it & Freeform?
I was having a bit of a debate with Firefly & a few of his mates. I was saying that Freeform is the future of Hardcore & we need to get things a bit more serious & concentrated in the future but they were saying that Freeform's on its last legs & it wont last much longer & Hardscape is the new style but, to me its just another form of freeform. Just because its been given another name doesn't mean we can ignore the facts that Freeform is whats made Hardscape &, to me, it's not very far away.
Is this another case of change the name, like trancecore-freeform, just to keep it fresh or mabey there is a much bigger divide. I hope you can help me out here. I'm sure you will!  Cheers
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Samination
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 18:20:23
hardscape has as slower feeling to it, and i wouldnt want to call it trancecore
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 18:40:19
yeah, I understand its slightly slower but on the Cotts Vid on youtube, hes mixing it up & it doesn't sound much slower than any freeform i've heard. What happens when its mixed @ a faster tempo. Does this mean it becomes Freeform again? 
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 18:40:22
Bit slower, less off beat basses, more influence from other genres, more variety and more new ideas. It's what freeform was supposed to be I guess.
Freeform has got its own sound now which is the opposite of what it originally set out to do. Still love freeform though!
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Samination
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 18:48:40
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
Bit slower, less off beat basses, more influence from other genres, more variety and more new ideas. It's what freeform was supposed to be I guess.
Freeform has got its own sound now which is the opposite of what it originally set out to do. Still love freeform though!
I miss the days of Beast of Hardcore and Delusion :(
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Mad Max
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 18:52:56
gerald the giraffe gives u hardscape
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Meph751
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 19:27:44
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Originally posted by Mad Max:
gerald the giraffe gives u hardscape
and you're not allowed to dj hardscape until you find him no less than 3 trees of average to above average size to graze on... and the leaves have to be tasty ones
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 19:30:26
quote:
Originally posted by bulby_g:
Bit slower, less off beat basses, more influence from other genres, more variety and more new ideas. It's what freeform was supposed to be I guess.
Freeform has got its own sound now which is the opposite of what it originally set out to do. Still love freeform though!
Do you think this is an attempt to get Freeform back to its Trancecore roots? I agree Bulby, I love Freeform but i'd like to hear it go back to the Bonkers 7 sound. Really crisp & with real 2000 Trance influence. I think I might start a few new tracks, call them Hardscape & take it back to those old trancecore styles
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Mad Max
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 19:41:02
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Originally posted by Meph751:
quote:
Originally posted by Mad Max:
gerald the giraffe gives u hardscape
and you're not allowed to dj hardscape until you find him no less than 3 trees of average to above average size to graze on... and the leaves have to be tasty ones
he likes the leaves bathed in evian mineral water at 16.5 degress celius
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Audio X
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 20:15:35
Hardscape is indeed what freeform set out to be.
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DJ_Axiom
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 21:46:51
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Hardscape is indeed what freeform set out to be.
Got ya on that one lol. Hardscape is all out wicked, and it really needs to progress because it is one of the freshest things Ive been hearing up to date.
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 21:59:24
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Originally posted by DjSamination:
I miss the days of Beast of Hardcore and Delusion :(
Me too! Was some quality tunes being knocked out around that time. Shame no labels have really replaced Bonkerz/Digital Beatz etc.
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Originally posted by djkenmasters:
Do you think this is an attempt to get Freeform back to its Trancecore roots? I agree Bulby, I love Freeform but i'd like to hear it go back to the Bonkers 7 sound. Really crisp & with real 2000 Trance influence. I think I might start a few new tracks, call them Hardscape & take it back to those old trancecore styles
I don't think so no. It's not trying to be like anything I'd say. They're trying to create a faster genre of dance music that is open for people to experiment with without people saying "that's not a (insert sub genre here) tune". A hard thing to do as people seem to love categorizing.
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Trimms
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 22:06:54
Freeform is no longer freeform to be honest. It kind of lost that feel when it was given a genre. Like some are saying, hardscape is the new freeform, but it won't be long before hardscape becomes just another subgenre of hardcore.
I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it'll suffer the same fate that freeform did.
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catjam
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 23:24:35
to be honest im fed up with all these different "genres"
when i was going to raves in the 90`s i just categorized it as
"HARDCORE" and "HAPPYHARDCORE"
kept it simple...
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Brian K
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 23:45:04
remember when it was just called rave? =P
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catjam
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Posted - 2008/12/16 : 23:53:55
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Originally posted by Brian K:
remember when it was just called rave? =P
exactly BK...."just slaves to the rave"
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