TypeR Advanced Member
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Posted - 2009/01/04 : 05:07:42
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
I was round my mate's last night & I saw an advert for Hardcore Nation 2009 which had the usual dated Trancy vocal Hardcore & remixes of pop & Dance tunes (also Infinity 2008)
Then later I saw an advert for Wigan Pier- Bounce which sounded the same, remixes of pop tunes again! Whats going on? Isn't Hardcore meant to be hard?
open your old skool history books man, one of the first happy hardcore tracks sampled sesame street for fcuks sake.
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warped_candykid Advanced Member
United States
4,002 posts Joined: Jan, 2004
Posted - 2009/01/04 : 05:34:51
quote:Originally posted by TypeR:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
I was round my mate's last night & I saw an advert for Hardcore Nation 2009 which had the usual dated Trancy vocal Hardcore & remixes of pop & Dance tunes (also Infinity 2008)
Then later I saw an advert for Wigan Pier- Bounce which sounded the same, remixes of pop tunes again! Whats going on? Isn't Hardcore meant to be hard?
open your old skool history books man, one of the first happy hardcore tracks sampled sesame street for fcuks sake.
I want that song so bad!!! I found it on a cd at a mall near me, but its $20! And it's the only song I like on the cd!
MAtRiCks Advanced Member
Canada
1,059 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2009/01/04 : 09:54:24
quote:Originally posted by TypeR:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
I was round my mate's last night & I saw an advert for Hardcore Nation 2009 which had the usual dated Trancy vocal Hardcore & remixes of pop & Dance tunes (also Infinity 2008)
Then later I saw an advert for Wigan Pier- Bounce which sounded the same, remixes of pop tunes again! Whats going on? Isn't Hardcore meant to be hard?
open your old skool history books man, one of the first happy hardcore tracks sampled sesame street for fcuks sake.
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2009/01/04 : 14:19:24
quote:Originally posted by TypeR:
open your old skool history books man, one of the first happy hardcore tracks sampled sesame street for fcuks sake.
Yer & same for Urban Hype- Trip to Trumpton but both tracks where so much more bouncier than today's Hardcore. Some of the cheesiest Hardcore was also the hardest IE the Dutch Happy Gabber. Paul Elstak vs Lenney D- I like Hardcore being a prime example!
ferocious New Member
United Kingdom
74 posts Joined: Nov, 2005
Posted - 2009/01/04 : 14:37:33
Sesame's Treet was England's breakbeat/hardcore. It wasn't a first, the first, and merely followed a brief trend that last several months in Essex. It was however the most notorious so often crops up on its own ahead of all the rest.
If you keep drawing lines back then guys sampled Rocky & Bullwinkle in 1986, Star Trek in 1987, Zippy & George in 1988, Flash Gordon in 1989... where does it stop? Something silly or novelty doesn't make it "happy hardcore"!
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2009/01/04 : 15:02:12
quote:Originally posted by ferocious:
If you keep drawing lines back then guys sampled Rocky & Bullwinkle in 1986, Star Trek in 1987, Zippy & George in 1988, Flash Gordon in 1989... where does it stop? Something silly or novelty doesn't make it "happy hardcore"!
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2009/01/04 : 19:04:35
^^^ DJ Paul & the Force Team always did some breakbeat sounding stuff but kept it hard! They did everything really, full on Rotterdam Gabber, cheesy Happy Hardcore being both Happy Gabber as well as commercial stuff! (yet the Hardcore version where harder, not just faster!), Scottish sounding Bouncy Techno (DJ Paul Elstak- Pump this Party) & the odd breakbeat track (although the breakbeat tracks wern't really Jungle/DnB like but more harder)
So yes Hardcore has always had a commercial edge, just in the old days Hardcore remixes where harder!
Mental_Adam Advanced Member
United Kingdom
845 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2009/01/04 : 19:54:47
I'm going to get a topic up about dutch mid 90s hardcore, as i know roughly some of the material what was being released, i really like alot of that non-commercial happy hardcore what was a little harder and had the breakbeats what you hear in jungle/dnb tunes from around that time.
DJ E-Rick & Tactics stuff is some of my favorite through that era, i'll have to post a few videos too in the thread : )
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2009/01/05 : 22:32:54
quote:Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
DJ E-Rick & Tactics stuff is some of my favorite through that era, i'll have to post a few videos too in the thread : )
This has to be the sickest tune by DJ E-rick & Tactic- Dance to the beat which I have on Thunderdome 9 & vinyl! This has one of the best bassdrums I have ever heard!
Meathead Advanced Member
United Kingdom
4,217 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2009/01/06 : 01:29:11
quote:Originally posted by The Doc:
well in the official charts! wigan pier is the highest new entry at 6 and hardcore nation has come in at 35!
Im surprised considering the target audience of the Wigan Pier albums that they've actually bought it
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