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Smoogie
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 00:04:54
Im staying out of this but I myself was heartbroken when a new Pizza Express that is opeing didn't call me back. I was amazed at how many forigners there was applying!
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hardcore anorak
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 00:10:52
[quote]Originally posted by bristolboy05:
what do you all think of englands immagration laws, is are country to easy on immagrants or are we to tough ?
well heres my opinion on it.
dont mean to offend any1 b4 i start
i think that any1 moving to our contry to work should be some1 who we need, i.e doctor, bone surgen, heart transplanter.
or some 1 who we have lack of, dont no wich busnisses are struggling for workers at the min but example - if we dont have any lorrie drivers then allow immagrants with a lorrie licence into our county but they are only alowed to apply for driving work.
every1 else who we dont need kick out ! if they got family who are english and they complain about being split up then the english who complain can go with them. if there worried so much about leaving there family then they can move to pakistan or india or germany with them cant they.
that way we will save on tax because lets be honist most immagrants are on da doll or claiming some sort of bennifits aint they, plus our country wont be so over crouded so it will leave alot more jobs open to the british looking for work.
we wont have to be so worried about terrorists or exrtimists planning a terror attack on our country, wich in turn will save our swat team doing raids on suspected terrorists in england also saving more tax
most of the moscs and there place's of prayer can be knocked down to make room for houses or flats wich will save struggling english looking for somewere to live, ( i no from my own expeirence cuz me and my misses and our baby been on the council list for years but there was none left so we have been forced to fork out over £700 a month to private rent.)
wich all could of been avoided if immagrants were out of our contry because we could of had a house they live in wich aint even in there country.
wich means were gettin put second in are own country - its discrimanating
do any 1 agree with me or do you have your own opinion
i agree mate we need someone to put the great back into great britain anyone in our country shouting in an open public area about terrorists should be shot on the spot ,criminals to be drafted into the army instead of long prison sentance coz lets face it how can u call it prison when u have phones,tv,games consoles in ya cell and our so called goverment properly funding our armed forces instead of our money being spent on imigrants who do nothing but rape and abuse our country
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 00:14:33
*Penny drops* @ Audio Warfare
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Brian K
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 00:28:29
quote: Originally posted by latininxtc:
i don't see very many americans who are eager to take jobs doing custodial work, working in construction, or who even bother to do their own landscaping.
a jr. high custodial job in ohio received 800 resumes for the position...lots of people will be happy right now just to have a job
due to the recession, lots of illegals are having to move back home due to their being no jobs
quote: Originally posted by latininxtc:
Bristol if u were in the US u would b considered inbred redneck republican shit considering the crappy views u spew
don't insult republicans =P
I agree with audio warfare...if you move to a country you need to make an effort to learn the national language of their country.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 02:11:59
quote: Originally posted by Brian K:
I agree with audio warfare...if you move to a country you need to make an effort to learn the national language of their country.
i agree as well on that. and not just the language, but also pick up on american customs as well. i remember this 1 lady at my old workplace she came from nigeria she already had like 4 kids when she came over here. she had 3 more. and they were having some $ probs at the time. and i asked her y she had more kids after she came here she said "that's how we do it back in our country we have a lot of kids" the stupidest reason ever.
you come to another country to live in that country, and you should pick up some customs of ur new nationality. now i'm not saying convert american, you can still be a nigerian (american), for example, but somethign drastic as having 7 kids and having an unstable financial situation is clearly irresponsible.
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silver
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 04:24:17
Sounds like immigrants are not the problem the UK laws and social welfare are the problem...
I rest my case with this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5004431/Family-who-are-too-fat-to-work-say-22000-worth-of-benefits-is-not-enough.html
quote: Originally posted by latininxtc: you come to another country to live in that country, and you should pick up some customs of ur new nationality.
Sorry your totally wrong, I'm not giving up my Australian ways for anyone, just the same as you as an American or English wouldn't stop being american / english if you went to another country. Japan is exactly the same, they want you to confirm and become "Japanese", but I refuse because I don't agree with their work values, family and friends are more important to me than working 18 hours a day. I'm not saying my way is better than Japan, it's just different, it might work for some but personally I don't like it.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 05:23:08
quote: Originally posted by silver:
Sounds like immigrants are not the problem the UK laws and social welfare are the problem...
I rest my case with this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5004431/Family-who-are-too-fat-to-work-say-22000-worth-of-benefits-is-not-enough.html
quote: Originally posted by latininxtc: you come to another country to live in that country, and you should pick up some customs of ur new nationality.
Sorry your totally wrong, I'm not giving up my Australian ways for anyone, just the same as you as an American or English wouldn't stop being american / english if you went to another country. Japan is exactly the same, they want you to confirm and become "Japanese", but I refuse because I don't agree with their work values, family and friends are more important to me than working 18 hours a day. I'm not saying my way is better than Japan, it's just different, it might work for some but personally I don't like it.
I'm not saying to stop being who u are, or to convert 100%. I'm saying that you should fit into customs that you believe would make u fit in best. If i would ever move to a place, I would sure have an open mind enough to learn somethin from that other country and learn something from them. I think it's kind of arrogant to say that u don't want to learn anything from them and pick up attributes that can benefit u. With that being said, i agree with you on Japanese work values. It's ridiculous. I like making $$$ just like any other ppl, but i sure as hell would not give up my social life just to make money. That is a custom that I wouldn't want anyone to pik up. And also Japan is certainly not a place i would ever want to move. Now Australia, I'd love to move there!
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silver
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 06:08:20
quote: Originally posted by latininxtc:
I'm not saying to stop being who u are, or to convert 100%. I'm saying that you should fit into customs that you believe would make u fit in best. If i would ever move to a place, I would sure have an open mind enough to learn somethin from that other country and learn something from them. I think it's kind of arrogant to say that u don't want to learn anything from them and pick up attributes that can benefit u.
Sorry I disagree, as long as what you are doing doesn't break the law or affect the local people then do what you want. You don't have to agree with immigrants but calling them stupid because they do things different... well I'm doing going to say it.
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 09:24:51
quote: Originally posted by djkenmasters:
*Penny drops* @ Audio Warfare
Eh? What did I say that was shocking. :P
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bristolboy05
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 10:09:42
like check this out for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiU-Vaq6PRg
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bristolboy05
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 10:19:02
or watch this, it was on panorama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=203oa4qatUc now all of you who disagree with me tell me how you agree with this ? if they wasnt in our country then we wont have to put up with any of it.
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 12:03:50
quote: Originally posted by bristolboy05:
or watch this, it was on panorama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=203oa4qatUc now all of you who disagree with me tell me how you agree with this ? if they wasnt in our country then we wont have to put up with any of it.
Just out of curiosity, what makes this our country above theirs?
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 12:26:10
watch something from the BBC rofl!!!!
and erm - your problem is with radicals then? not with immigrants then?
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Sweet As
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 12:29:42
A lot of English are moving over to Australia. The amount of backpackers I know that are trying to get residency here is crazy. So maybe that's why they are letting a lot of immigrants into the UK. To like replace the people who have left. lol
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Sweet As
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Posted - 2009/03/20 : 12:31:25
A lot of English are moving over to Australia. The amount of backpackers I know that are trying to get residency here is crazy. So maybe that's why they are letting a lot of immigrants into the UK. To like replace the people who have left. lol
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