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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by dantheman:
Sharkey's CD 2/10

I think the only track on there I liked was Jump 2 Da Groove 2009.

When did Sharkey start playing cheese again? I think he should stick with Freeform, he seems to be better at that.

And please let Today's The Day DIE.

That S3RL track he dropped was ALMOST good. Just like every other S3RL track.

Chris Unknown's CD 7/10

Good CD, loads of good tracks, scratching, good progression.

Hixxy's CD 9/10

I don't think Hixxy can ever disappoint me. Really, I can't identify with any DJ/Producer's style more besides Re-Con/Squad-E/Breeze (aka Raverbaby).

Overall score: 7/10

Worth the money just for Hixxy's CD.. because that was my favorite era of nuskool UK hardcore.




hixxy 9 out of 10?

wow the whole mix from a djs point of view is a massive embarrasment, especially from someone with such a high profile as hixxy. the tunes are ok but none of them go together and the mixing is really really bad. i wouldnt even give it a 1 out of 10



1 out of 10? That is slightly harsh.
Granted, he could have chosen a much better selection.
The reason why most dislike it, including myself, is because they've heard these tunes hundreds of times now and drowned them out. I'd be hailing this mix an instant classic if it was the first time I'd heard this selection of songs. But they've been played, remixed, featured on compilations SO MANY TIMES, which begs the question what is the point?


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Originally posted by m0nKeY:
I think the Hixxy and Unknown discs are more likely to be favoured by the chav following for happyhardcore in some areas of the UK at the moment, not the die hard fans who love happyhardcore through and through and have followed it for many years in it's many different forms. Just my opinion though.



Just you opinion indeed. I love the Sy & Unknown disc and I know my Hardcore.


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quote:
Originally posted by whittle1:
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by dantheman:
Sharkey's CD 2/10

I think the only track on there I liked was Jump 2 Da Groove 2009.

When did Sharkey start playing cheese again? I think he should stick with Freeform, he seems to be better at that.

And please let Today's The Day DIE.

That S3RL track he dropped was ALMOST good. Just like every other S3RL track.

Chris Unknown's CD 7/10

Good CD, loads of good tracks, scratching, good progression.

Hixxy's CD 9/10

I don't think Hixxy can ever disappoint me. Really, I can't identify with any DJ/Producer's style more besides Re-Con/Squad-E/Breeze (aka Raverbaby).

Overall score: 7/10

Worth the money just for Hixxy's CD.. because that was my favorite era of nuskool UK hardcore.




hixxy 9 out of 10?

wow the whole mix from a djs point of view is a massive embarrasment, especially from someone with such a high profile as hixxy. the tunes are ok but none of them go together and the mixing is really really bad. i wouldnt even give it a 1 out of 10



1 out of 10? That is slightly harsh.
Granted, he could have chosen a much better selection.
The reason why most dislike it, including myself, is because they've heard these tunes hundreds of times now and drowned them out. I'd be hailing this mix an instant classic if it was the first time I'd heard this selection of songs. But they've been played, remixed, featured on compilations SO MANY TIMES, which begs the question what is the point?



That is true, but it only matters to peoples like us who pretty much follow every Hardcore release and have been for a while. The point of the cd is pretty obvious though... I'm certain a lot of peoples picking up this album are relatively new to Hardcore, and won't necessarily know the majority of the songs on it.


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Posted - 2009/05/23 :  12:46:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
quote:
Originally posted by whittle1:
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by dantheman:
Sharkey's CD 2/10

I think the only track on there I liked was Jump 2 Da Groove 2009.

When did Sharkey start playing cheese again? I think he should stick with Freeform, he seems to be better at that.

And please let Today's The Day DIE.

That S3RL track he dropped was ALMOST good. Just like every other S3RL track.

Chris Unknown's CD 7/10

Good CD, loads of good tracks, scratching, good progression.

Hixxy's CD 9/10

I don't think Hixxy can ever disappoint me. Really, I can't identify with any DJ/Producer's style more besides Re-Con/Squad-E/Breeze (aka Raverbaby).

Overall score: 7/10

Worth the money just for Hixxy's CD.. because that was my favorite era of nuskool UK hardcore.




hixxy 9 out of 10?

wow the whole mix from a djs point of view is a massive embarrasment, especially from someone with such a high profile as hixxy. the tunes are ok but none of them go together and the mixing is really really bad. i wouldnt even give it a 1 out of 10



1 out of 10? That is slightly harsh.
Granted, he could have chosen a much better selection.
The reason why most dislike it, including myself, is because they've heard these tunes hundreds of times now and drowned them out. I'd be hailing this mix an instant classic if it was the first time I'd heard this selection of songs. But they've been played, remixed, featured on compilations SO MANY TIMES, which begs the question what is the point?



That is true, but it only matters to peoples like us who pretty much follow every Hardcore release and have been for a while. The point of the cd is pretty obvious though... I'm certain a lot of peoples picking up this album are relatively new to Hardcore, and won't necessarily know the majority of the songs on it.



I'd give it 1/10...
it's a load of poorly mixed tracks that i already hace... exactly where does it get the points from? for other people who havent heard these tracks, their opinion is different..


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You were slagging the cd before it even came out, so let me doubt you even listened to it to make your opinion of the mixing. I just listened to the first half and the mixing isn't bad at all. The mixes in & out of see you on the other side are great, actually. I'll port my opinion of the second half soon... I only listen to it in my car :P

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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
You were slagging the cd before it even came out, so let me doubt you even listened to it to make your opinion of the mixing.


1) yes, i was, because the tracklist contained all the songs ive alreay heard and got

2) I have listened to it, hence my disliking for the mixing... don't know if your aware, but you cant judge things you havent listened to...

:S im entitled to my opinion.. dont understand why you keep having pops at my posts :S


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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
quote:
Originally posted by m0nKeY:
I think the Hixxy and Unknown discs are more likely to be favoured by the chav following for happyhardcore in some areas of the UK at the moment, not the die hard fans who love happyhardcore through and through and have followed it for many years in it's many different forms. Just my opinion though.



Just you opinion indeed. I love the Sy & Unknown disc and I know my Hardcore.



well you clearly don,t know your hardcore as its only unknown who mixes bonkers not sy and unknown,and in another post you mentioned hixxys mix being old skool on bonkers and h.t.i.d(he doesn,t even mix this)when the hell did them tracks become old skool lol

and i don,t even own any of them cds and i know that,so stop posting stuff you don,t even know what your on about!


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Posted - 2009/05/23 :  19:54:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit dantheman's homepage  Reply with quote
LOL @ New to hardcore.

Just because you all hate Raverbaby doesn't make me a n00b.

Why does every mix have to be brand new tracks?

The tracks on Hixxy's mix came from a time when UK hardcore was at its peak. 2004-2007 era. The mixing on the CD is just fine. It's ****in bangin to MY ears.

And LOL @ people thinking Sharkey's CD is not cheese. Obviously you haven't listened to Sharkeys Bonkers 10-16 mixes.

And if you think I'm a noob you should see my record collection. I own records from 1995-2008 and have thrown hardcore events.

This is MY review of the Bonkers album, if you don't like it thats YOUR problem. It doesn't make me a n00b at all, that is just my opinion. I'm sure Jackol can vouch for me.

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Originally posted by dantheman:
LOL @ New to hardcore.

Just because you all hate Raverbaby doesn't make me a n00b.

Why does every mix have to be brand new tracks?

The tracks on Hixxy's mix came from a time when UK hardcore was at its peak. 2004-2007 era. The mixing on the CD is just fine. It's ****in bangin to MY ears.

And LOL @ people thinking Sharkey's CD is not cheese. Obviously you haven't listened to Sharkeys Bonkers 10-16 mixes.

And if you think I'm a noob you should see my record collection. I own records from 1995-2008 and have thrown hardcore events.

This is MY review of the Bonkers album, if you don't like it thats YOUR problem. It doesn't make me a n00b at all, that is just my opinion. I'm sure Jackol can vouch for me.

Jus sayin.


Your right. Whoever called you a noob is clueless (for the fact it's based on NOTHING). Also yes Sharkey's mixes are now cheesey and have been for a good few Bonkers. It's a dissapointment to see him sell out that way, although he has probably been pressured to play that crap.

Alot of people on the other hand (i don't neccesarily mean on this site) here ARE 'noobs' and they have no idea what good Hardcore is, and didn't even get into the scene for the same kind of music we would have done. They just got into the scene around 2 years ago for the pop Trance crap that gets played all the time now. So their opinion is worthless to people who like actual Hardcore or know anything about actual Hardcore because the standard is completely different. It's fair enough that they like that stuff but it's a completely different scene from the one before 2004 (or that kinda time).


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quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by dantheman:
LOL @ New to hardcore.

Just because you all hate Raverbaby doesn't make me a n00b.

Why does every mix have to be brand new tracks?

The tracks on Hixxy's mix came from a time when UK hardcore was at its peak. 2004-2007 era. The mixing on the CD is just fine. It's ****in bangin to MY ears.

And LOL @ people thinking Sharkey's CD is not cheese. Obviously you haven't listened to Sharkeys Bonkers 10-16 mixes.

And if you think I'm a noob you should see my record collection. I own records from 1995-2008 and have thrown hardcore events.

This is MY review of the Bonkers album, if you don't like it thats YOUR problem. It doesn't make me a n00b at all, that is just my opinion. I'm sure Jackol can vouch for me.

Jus sayin.


Your right. Whoever called you a noob is clueless (for the fact it's based on NOTHING). Also yes Sharkey's mixes are now cheesey and have been for a good few Bonkers. It's a dissapointment to see him sell out that way, although he has probably been pressured to play that crap.

Alot of people on the other hand (i don't neccesarily mean on this site) here ARE 'noobs' and they have no idea what good Hardcore is, and didn't even get into the scene for the same kind of music we would have done. They just got into the scene around 2 years ago for the pop Trance crap that gets played all the time now. So their opinion is worthless to people who like actual Hardcore or know anything about actual Hardcore because the standard is completely different. It's fair enough that they like that stuff but it's a completely different scene from the one before 2004 (or that kinda time).



the point i'm making to dan, was that:

a) your new to hardcore and havent heard the raverbaby tunes etc

b) your dillusional...
reasoning being that your happy to buy tracks you could get in any mix for free, and then you rate it highly..

Ive seen countless mixes with better mixing (and yes I have heard cd3, matricks) and its for free and countains those tunes. they arent hard to find, since they are classic older tunes..


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a) your new to hardcore and havent heard the raverbaby tunes etc

b) your dillusional...


Where did you get from what he said, that he is new and dosn't know what he's talking about?

I'm not trying/don't want to cause an argument, i just think they are really innacurate comments that are pretty uncalled for.
quote:

I was almost worried that the whole album was going to suck after listening to it and that UK Hardcore was in trouble again (like the beginning of 2008 with the onslaught of TNC and Electro Hardcore).

Lol i just read that, and yes, that Electro stuff was ****ing god awfull to say the least.


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quote:
Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
quote:
Originally posted by whittle1:
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by dantheman:
Sharkey's CD 2/10

I think the only track on there I liked was Jump 2 Da Groove 2009.

When did Sharkey start playing cheese again? I think he should stick with Freeform, he seems to be better at that.

And please let Today's The Day DIE.

That S3RL track he dropped was ALMOST good. Just like every other S3RL track.

Chris Unknown's CD 7/10

Good CD, loads of good tracks, scratching, good progression.

Hixxy's CD 9/10

I don't think Hixxy can ever disappoint me. Really, I can't identify with any DJ/Producer's style more besides Re-Con/Squad-E/Breeze (aka Raverbaby).

Overall score: 7/10

Worth the money just for Hixxy's CD.. because that was my favorite era of nuskool UK hardcore.




hixxy 9 out of 10?

wow the whole mix from a djs point of view is a massive embarrasment, especially from someone with such a high profile as hixxy. the tunes are ok but none of them go together and the mixing is really really bad. i wouldnt even give it a 1 out of 10



1 out of 10? That is slightly harsh.
Granted, he could have chosen a much better selection.
The reason why most dislike it, including myself, is because they've heard these tunes hundreds of times now and drowned them out. I'd be hailing this mix an instant classic if it was the first time I'd heard this selection of songs. But they've been played, remixed, featured on compilations SO MANY TIMES, which begs the question what is the point?



That is true, but it only matters to peoples like us who pretty much follow every Hardcore release and have been for a while. The point of the cd is pretty obvious though... I'm certain a lot of peoples picking up this album are relatively new to Hardcore, and won't necessarily know the majority of the songs on it.





mate, no ****in offence you twat but i've been into hardcore for along time... 94... i know exactly what im talkin about. the unknown cd is ****in top.. exactly what hardcore is about at the mo. sharkeys mix is ok.. hixxys is just poor mixin wise.. how the hell u can say the 1st half is ok is beyond me. this mix sounds like its been done by a bedroom ameteur... its either some cds are ****ed whne they are pressed or they are all they same... i will send u my hixxy mix or u can send me urs... i will upload the ****er for u it is really bad.. for a commercial release


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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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a) your new to hardcore and havent heard the raverbaby tunes etc

b) your dillusional...


Where did you get from what he said, that he is new and dosn't know what he's talking about?

I'm not trying/don't want to cause an argument, i just think they are really innacurate comments that are pretty uncalled for.
quote:

I was almost worried that the whole album was going to suck after listening to it and that UK Hardcore was in trouble again (like the beginning of 2008 with the onslaught of TNC and Electro Hardcore).

Lol i just read that, and yes, that Electro stuff was ****ing god awfull to say the least.



He's obviously not reading the thread and just trolling. I own almost every single Raverbaby release.

After seeing your join date I am very honored to have your support. Looks like we are on the same page when it comes to UK hardcore.

I think what a lot of people don't get in this thread is that while it's great that UK hardcore is constantly changing maybe some of us don't like the absolute freshest new sounds all the time?

I talked to Hixxy when he played my show 3 months ago about the way things are going. I asked him if he misses oldskool super cheesey happy hardcore and he said he does, but it will never come back. I agree with him and it's a shame.

Hixxy does pretty much whatever he wants to do which is what I like about him. He has a mind of his own and doesn't follow the herd or what's cool.

There is a certain sound I look for when I listen to "happy" hardcore and a lot of producers haven't really been living up to their names as of late.

Raverbaby has pretty much always stuck to the sound they started with. Don't get me wrong there are a few horrible releases.

The ironic thing is that Sharkey started with cheese as did Kevin Energy. Remember Toytown and Wanting to Get High? Or how about DJ Energy - Hardcore Fever?

How's that for n00b? ;)


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Originally posted by DaX sm00th:
quote:
Originally posted by dantheman:
Sharkey's CD 2/10

I think the only track on there I liked was Jump 2 Da Groove 2009.

When did Sharkey start playing cheese again? I think he should stick with Freeform, he seems to be better at that.

And please let Today's The Day DIE.

That S3RL track he dropped was ALMOST good. Just like every other S3RL track.

Chris Unknown's CD 7/10

Good CD, loads of good tracks, scratching, good progression.

Hixxy's CD 9/10

I don't think Hixxy can ever disappoint me. Really, I can't identify with any DJ/Producer's style more besides Re-Con/Squad-E/Breeze (aka Raverbaby).

Overall score: 7/10

Worth the money just for Hixxy's CD.. because that was my favorite era of nuskool UK hardcore.




mate you dont know shit



simple yet to the point. good job dax smooth I 100% agree with you


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Originally posted by dantheman:


And LOL @ people thinking Sharkey's CD is not cheese. Obviously you haven't listened to Sharkeys Bonkers 10-16 mixes.





Have you listened to those mixes? because clearly you haven't if you're calling it cheese. I don't kno how you think a track like See You on the other side by CLSM (not that shitty give-me-the-runs version on the godawful new bonkers album) can be considered cheese. Unless your definition of cheese means freeform.

you may not be a noob, but clearly your opinion on the album was taking from a noob point of view, NOT someone who has genuinely been in the scene and can understand see what exactly a good tracklisting makes and transitions as well.


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