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Wilky
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 Posted - 2009/05/23 : 21:08:07
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Originally posted by dantheman:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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a) your new to hardcore and havent heard the raverbaby tunes etc
b) your dillusional...
Where did you get from what he said, that he is new and dosn't know what he's talking about?
I'm not trying/don't want to cause an argument, i just think they are really innacurate comments that are pretty uncalled for.
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I was almost worried that the whole album was going to suck after listening to it and that UK Hardcore was in trouble again (like the beginning of 2008 with the onslaught of TNC and Electro Hardcore).
Lol i just read that, and yes, that Electro stuff was ****ing god awfull to say the least.
He's obviously not reading the thread and just trolling. I own almost every single Raverbaby release.
After seeing your join date I am very honored to have your support. Looks like we are on the same page when it comes to UK hardcore.
I think what a lot of people don't get in this thread is that while it's great that UK hardcore is constantly changing maybe some of us don't like the absolute freshest new sounds all the time?
I talked to Hixxy when he played my show 3 months ago about the way things are going. I asked him if he misses oldskool super cheesey happy hardcore and he said he does, but it will never come back. I agree with him and it's a shame.
Hixxy does pretty much whatever he wants to do which is what I like about him. He has a mind of his own and doesn't follow the herd or what's cool.
There is a certain sound I look for when I listen to "happy" hardcore and a lot of producers haven't really been living up to their names as of late.
Raverbaby has pretty much always stuck to the sound they started with. Don't get me wrong there are a few horrible releases.
The ironic thing is that Sharkey started with cheese as did Kevin Energy. Remember Toytown and Wanting to Get High? Or how about DJ Energy - Hardcore Fever?
How's that for n00b? ;)
hixxy is the biggest sheep in town mate
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dantheman
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Posted - 2009/05/23 : 21:11:33
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by dantheman:
And LOL @ people thinking Sharkey's CD is not cheese. Obviously you haven't listened to Sharkeys Bonkers 10-16 mixes.
Have you listened to those mixes? because clearly you haven't if you're calling it cheese. I don't kno how you think a track like See You on the other side by CLSM (not that shitty give-me-the-runs version on the godawful new bonkers album) can be considered cheese. Unless your definition of cheese means freeform.
you may not be a noob, but clearly your opinion on the album was taking from a noob point of view, NOT someone who has genuinely been in the scene and can understand see what exactly a good tracklisting makes and transitions as well.
No, no, no. You misread what I said. I said Sharkey's mix on Bonkers: The Original Hardcore is Cheesey. Not his Bonkers 10-16 mixes.
We're Getting Faster
When Tears Fall
Jump 2 Da Groove 2009
Let Me Be Your Fantasy
Today's The Day
Here We Go
Jumping All Over The World
I find these tracks to be cheesey. And I know there are more.
Maybe I really am delusional and didn't hear CHIPMUNKS on Sharkey's CD.
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dantheman
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Posted - 2009/05/23 : 21:14:44
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by dantheman:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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a) your new to hardcore and havent heard the raverbaby tunes etc
b) your dillusional...
Where did you get from what he said, that he is new and dosn't know what he's talking about?
I'm not trying/don't want to cause an argument, i just think they are really innacurate comments that are pretty uncalled for.
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I was almost worried that the whole album was going to suck after listening to it and that UK Hardcore was in trouble again (like the beginning of 2008 with the onslaught of TNC and Electro Hardcore).
Lol i just read that, and yes, that Electro stuff was ****ing god awfull to say the least.
He's obviously not reading the thread and just trolling. I own almost every single Raverbaby release.
After seeing your join date I am very honored to have your support. Looks like we are on the same page when it comes to UK hardcore.
I think what a lot of people don't get in this thread is that while it's great that UK hardcore is constantly changing maybe some of us don't like the absolute freshest new sounds all the time?
I talked to Hixxy when he played my show 3 months ago about the way things are going. I asked him if he misses oldskool super cheesey happy hardcore and he said he does, but it will never come back. I agree with him and it's a shame.
Hixxy does pretty much whatever he wants to do which is what I like about him. He has a mind of his own and doesn't follow the herd or what's cool.
There is a certain sound I look for when I listen to "happy" hardcore and a lot of producers haven't really been living up to their names as of late.
Raverbaby has pretty much always stuck to the sound they started with. Don't get me wrong there are a few horrible releases.
The ironic thing is that Sharkey started with cheese as did Kevin Energy. Remember Toytown and Wanting to Get High? Or how about DJ Energy - Hardcore Fever?
How's that for n00b? ;)
hixxy is the biggest sheep in town mate
If that was 100% true he would have been producing shitty electro hardcore and releasing S3rL tracks on Raverbaby.
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MAtRiCks
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Posted - 2009/05/23 : 21:33:19
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you mentioned hixxys mix being old skool on bonkers and h.t.i.d(he doesn,t even mix this)when the hell did them tracks become old skool lol
and i don,t even own any of them cds and i know that,so stop posting stuff you don,t even know what your on about!
These are trivial mistakes... The Bonkers disc2 mixing credit might be Unknown only but it's clearly a Quosh showcase, and Sy is involved in 11 tracks out of the 18... I own this cd... you think a mere writing mistake means I don't know anything about it? As for HTID, it's not written anywhere that Hixxy mixed the 3rd cd, my bad... actually the dj is uncredited, so Hixxy could as well have mixed it, but anyways, that is irrelevent to the discussion were having about Bonkers.
Now there's no reason to get all worked up and rude like you are, I'm entitled to discuss this thread just like you.
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Posted - 2009/05/23 : 21:42:36
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by dantheman:
And LOL @ people thinking Sharkey's CD is not cheese. Obviously you haven't listened to Sharkeys Bonkers 10-16 mixes.
you may not be a noob, but clearly your opinion on the album was taking from a noob point of view, NOT someone who has genuinely been in the scene and can understand see what exactly a good tracklisting makes and transitions as well.
what YOU think makes a good tracklisting and transition is NOT necessarily what IS good. Nobody can 'understand exactly' what makes a good tracklisting and transition, because that is subjective and always changing. Are you seriously going to call anybody who has a different opinion than you a noob? It doesn't make for a very interesting conversation, does it...
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Posted - 2009/05/23 : 21:43:46
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Originally posted by dantheman:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
hixxy is the biggest sheep in town mate
If that was 100% true he would have been producing shitty electro hardcore and releasing S3rL tracks on Raverbaby.
haha, quite true.
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Posted - 2009/05/23 : 21:49:30
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
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Originally posted by whittle1:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by dantheman:
Sharkey's CD 2/10
I think the only track on there I liked was Jump 2 Da Groove 2009.
When did Sharkey start playing cheese again? I think he should stick with Freeform, he seems to be better at that.
And please let Today's The Day DIE.
That S3RL track he dropped was ALMOST good. Just like every other S3RL track.
Chris Unknown's CD 7/10
Good CD, loads of good tracks, scratching, good progression.
Hixxy's CD 9/10
I don't think Hixxy can ever disappoint me. Really, I can't identify with any DJ/Producer's style more besides Re-Con/Squad-E/Breeze (aka Raverbaby).
Overall score: 7/10
Worth the money just for Hixxy's CD.. because that was my favorite era of nuskool UK hardcore.
hixxy 9 out of 10?
wow the whole mix from a djs point of view is a massive embarrasment, especially from someone with such a high profile as hixxy. the tunes are ok but none of them go together and the mixing is really really bad. i wouldnt even give it a 1 out of 10
1 out of 10? That is slightly harsh.
Granted, he could have chosen a much better selection.
The reason why most dislike it, including myself, is because they've heard these tunes hundreds of times now and drowned them out. I'd be hailing this mix an instant classic if it was the first time I'd heard this selection of songs. But they've been played, remixed, featured on compilations SO MANY TIMES, which begs the question what is the point?
That is true, but it only matters to peoples like us who pretty much follow every Hardcore release and have been for a while. The point of the cd is pretty obvious though... I'm certain a lot of peoples picking up this album are relatively new to Hardcore, and won't necessarily know the majority of the songs on it.
mate, no ****in offence you twat but i've been into hardcore for along time... 94... i know exactly what im talkin about. the unknown cd is ****in top.. exactly what hardcore is about at the mo. sharkeys mix is ok.. hixxys is just poor mixin wise.. how the hell u can say the 1st half is ok is beyond me. this mix sounds like its been done by a bedroom ameteur... its either some cds are ****ed whne they are pressed or they are all they same... i will send u my hixxy mix or u can send me urs... i will upload the ****er for u it is really bad.. for a commercial release
I doubt we have different versions of the 3rd cd! :P I agree with you about the Unknown CD, although I rate the Sharkey CD very high myself. By the way. there's no need to justify yourself! I don't need proof that you've been into Hardcore for more than X years to take your opinion into consideration... As long as it's constructive, intelligent and supported by relevant facts, we're good.
Some of the people on here have been listening to Hardcore for decades but still have horrible attitudes/manners and really questionable tastes, so what does it matter anyway? I'd rather discuss with intelligent and interesting 'noobs' than narrow-minded and arrogant old pricks.
Nuff said about that :P
Something that bothers me very much with this album is the 6th track on Unknown's mix... Welcome To The Trip... I don't really like it to begin with, but there's something odd about it... It's only 2:11min long and when it cuts to go into If You Believe, it's completely off cue... It sounds as if the track had been incompletely recorded to the cd... it's really awkward...
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Posted - 2009/05/24 : 01:30:23
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Originally posted by dantheman:
Sharkey's CD 2/10
I think the only track on there I liked was Jump 2 Da Groove 2009.
When did Sharkey start playing cheese again? I think he should stick with Freeform, he seems to be better at that.
And please let Today's The Day DIE.
That S3RL track he dropped was ALMOST good. Just like every other S3RL track.
Chris Unknown's CD 7/10
Good CD, loads of good tracks, scratching, good progression.
Hixxy's CD 9/10
I don't think Hixxy can ever disappoint me. Really, I can't identify with any DJ/Producer's style more besides Re-Con/Squad-E/Breeze (aka Raverbaby).
Overall score: 7/10
Worth the money just for Hixxy's CD.. because that was my favorite era of nuskool UK hardcore.
that was a pretty shit review
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Posted - 2009/05/24 : 04:10:35
okay can we just all agree that this years bonkers was the worst?
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Posted - 2009/05/24 : 10:08:07
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by dantheman:
And LOL @ people thinking Sharkey's CD is not cheese. Obviously you haven't listened to Sharkeys Bonkers 10-16 mixes.
[..] Unless your definition of cheese means freeform.
Exactly what I was thinking! How the hell can you call tracks like "Kevin Energy & DJ Proteus - London-Helsinki Underground (K-Complex remix)" and "K-Complex - Adagio" etc cheese? My favourite Sharkey mix from Bonkers 10-16 would be on 13 and not a single track I would define as cheese in any shape or form.
I think you have the definition of cheese all muddled up in your head man.
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Posted - 2009/05/24 : 10:27:27
odd, thats not how i read it
i read it to say
"sharkeys mix is cheese compared to bonkers 10 - 16"
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Posted - 2009/05/24 : 14:25:16
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Originally posted by lozowen:
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Originally posted by dantheman:
Sharkey's CD 2/10
I think the only track on there I liked was Jump 2 Da Groove 2009.
When did Sharkey start playing cheese again? I think he should stick with Freeform, he seems to be better at that.
And please let Today's The Day DIE.
That S3RL track he dropped was ALMOST good. Just like every other S3RL track.
Chris Unknown's CD 7/10
Good CD, loads of good tracks, scratching, good progression.
Hixxy's CD 9/10
I don't think Hixxy can ever disappoint me. Really, I can't identify with any DJ/Producer's style more besides Re-Con/Squad-E/Breeze (aka Raverbaby).
Overall score: 7/10
Worth the money just for Hixxy's CD.. because that was my favorite era of nuskool UK hardcore.
that was a pretty shit review
Sorry to disappoint ya mate. :shrug:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by dantheman:
And LOL @ people thinking Sharkey's CD is not cheese. Obviously you haven't listened to Sharkeys Bonkers 10-16 mixes.
[..] Unless your definition of cheese means freeform.
Exactly what I was thinking! How the hell can you call tracks like "Kevin Energy & DJ Proteus - London-Helsinki Underground (K-Complex remix)" and "K-Complex - Adagio" etc cheese? My favourite Sharkey mix from Bonkers 10-16 would be on 13 and not a single track I would define as cheese in any shape or form.
I think you have the definition of cheese all muddled up in your head man.
Not tryin to be a dick but I think you need to re-read the entire thread.
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Originally posted by Bonkers4Life:
okay can we just all agree that this years bonkers was the worst?
LOL fine, I agree. So only one way from here?
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Posted - 2009/05/27 : 12:36:35
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
you can tell you're new to hardcore... you've mustn't have heard hixxy's mix' tunes ever before... and you need to learn what cheese is, because not much of it is on sharkeys mix! its way more on chris unknowns! If discoland isnt cheese, then sum1 shoot me...
I've been new since 99.
There's plenty of cheese on Sharkey's mix. I mean he plays an S3RL track for god sakes.
Yes because Dealer is super cheesy. Because of people like you Bonkers will stay this forever. Not that AAWT wouldn`t keep it like this anyway, but people like you make them think it`s okay to drop a Bonkers album with a disc full of popcore and a disc full tunes everybody has heard before. I cant comment on the mixing, and the tracklisting does look good, but I have almost every one of those tuens on another compilation.
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Posted - 2009/05/27 : 14:13:00
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Something that bothers me very much with this album is the 6th track on Unknown's mix... Welcome To The Trip... I don't really like it to begin with, but there's something odd about it... It's only 2:11min long and when it cuts to go into If You Believe, it's completely off cue... It sounds as if the track had been incompletely recorded to the cd... it's really awkward...
It’s an awful “mix” isn’t it. The next track just gets slapped in. I couldn’t work out if it’s intentional or if they have somehow chopped out the end of the track where it was supposed to be mixed into the next one. Maybe when they were setting up the track skips.. Either way it’s not good.
Welcome to the Trip was one of the tracks I liked most on the Unknown disk.
I wasn’t really feeling this Bonkers I must admit. All very average and just wasn’t many tracks that really stood out for me. It’s not as bad as some people are making out but it just didn’t really get me excited. I’ve only listened a couple of time and have gone straight back to Hardcore Underground 3 that I’ve been caining ever since I got it. 8-)
Personally don’t see why everyone is getting quite so worked up about the Hixxy mix. It was decent enough (bar a couple of questionable mixes). Sure most people who have been into hardcore longer than a few years will have all these tracks but it clearly wasn’t aimed at these people. You knew what was on the CD before you parted with your cash. ;)
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Posted - 2009/05/27 : 15:40:34
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Originally posted by dantheman:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by dantheman:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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a) your new to hardcore and havent heard the raverbaby tunes etc
b) your dillusional...
Where did you get from what he said, that he is new and dosn't know what he's talking about?
I'm not trying/don't want to cause an argument, i just think they are really innacurate comments that are pretty uncalled for.
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I was almost worried that the whole album was going to suck after listening to it and that UK Hardcore was in trouble again (like the beginning of 2008 with the onslaught of TNC and Electro Hardcore).
Lol i just read that, and yes, that Electro stuff was ****ing god awfull to say the least.
He's obviously not reading the thread and just trolling. I own almost every single Raverbaby release.
After seeing your join date I am very honored to have your support. Looks like we are on the same page when it comes to UK hardcore.
I think what a lot of people don't get in this thread is that while it's great that UK hardcore is constantly changing maybe some of us don't like the absolute freshest new sounds all the time?
I talked to Hixxy when he played my show 3 months ago about the way things are going. I asked him if he misses oldskool super cheesey happy hardcore and he said he does, but it will never come back. I agree with him and it's a shame.
Hixxy does pretty much whatever he wants to do which is what I like about him. He has a mind of his own and doesn't follow the herd or what's cool.
There is a certain sound I look for when I listen to "happy" hardcore and a lot of producers haven't really been living up to their names as of late.
Raverbaby has pretty much always stuck to the sound they started with. Don't get me wrong there are a few horrible releases.
The ironic thing is that Sharkey started with cheese as did Kevin Energy. Remember Toytown and Wanting to Get High? Or how about DJ Energy - Hardcore Fever?
How's that for n00b? ;)
hixxy is the biggest sheep in town mate
If that was 100% true he would have been producing shitty electro hardcore and releasing S3rL tracks on Raverbaby.
Your head is so far up your ****ing ass. I love Hixxy (atleast his older stuff), so I`m not just hating, but he`s been making crappy popcore for a good while now. How would releasing an S3RL track be following the herd? No joke, that part really confused me.
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