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Craigavon raver
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 Posted - 2009/06/02 : 20:03:58
what the hell the crack with the fisrt cd all remixes of stuff i,ve never heard of before,but as some of you already mentioned all commercial crap,why so much of it as what hardcore ravers want 2 listen 2 that many tracks remixed?
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Posted - 2009/06/02 : 20:10:14
i,ve just found out what that guru josh project song is and all i can say is OH DEAR!
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/06/02 : 20:19:42
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
havnt got a clue how any of you can call a cd when you havnt heard the tracks.. wtf
who gives a shite if they're remixes of commercial tracks... you seem to forget hardcore (this type anyway) is under the same umbrella...
why do u think these albums are crammed with tunes that are in the charts?
coz thats who its aimed at, the regular chart buyer.. if they see names on it they recognise... they will buy it.. its called business
Who said anything about it being bad business? I said i wouldnt be buying it because of the chart remixes, simple as that. I dont want to hear this stuff so i wont buy it, simple.
Its actually very good business putting commercial tunes on a cd, we've been through this many a time with CLXH and the new Bonkers im sure, but i didnt say anything about it being bad business. And i can call a cd without hearing the tracks on it because i have had the misfortune of hearing the original commercial tracks that are to be on this album. There's no way i wanna hear them again at 170+.
Fair enough?
well put like that who am i to argue otherwise?
Wilky.
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Wilky
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Posted - 2009/06/02 : 21:44:23
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
havnt got a clue how any of you can call a cd when you havnt heard the tracks.. wtf
who gives a shite if they're remixes of commercial tracks... you seem to forget hardcore (this type anyway) is under the same umbrella...
why do u think these albums are crammed with tunes that are in the charts?
coz thats who its aimed at, the regular chart buyer.. if they see names on it they recognise... they will buy it.. its called business
Who said anything about it being bad business? I said i wouldnt be buying it because of the chart remixes, simple as that. I dont want to hear this stuff so i wont buy it, simple.
Its actually very good business putting commercial tunes on a cd, we've been through this many a time with CLXH and the new Bonkers im sure, but i didnt say anything about it being bad business. And i can call a cd without hearing the tracks on it because i have had the misfortune of hearing the original commercial tracks that are to be on this album. There's no way i wanna hear them again at 170+.
Fair enough?
well put like that who am i to argue otherwise?
Wilky.
An arguement is exactly what i was expecting
Ok:
These labels that put commercial wank core albums out dont give 2 shites what forum members give a shit, as its the money that counts, not opinions (or what dribble you type)
Money, its a clever thing, makes the world go round, makes the human race survive, makes you and i work to keep our family alive MONEY IS WHAT KEEPS HARDCORE ALIVE get used to or go hang urself, nuff love
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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/06/02 : 21:48:38
here here wilky!
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hardcore anorak
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Posted - 2009/06/02 : 23:35:42
im going to get this looks ok got a few bits from divine uk hardcore label [modulate] which i like so why not
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/06/02 : 23:50:36
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
Wilky.
An arguement is exactly what i was expecting
Ok:
These labels that put commercial wank core albums out dont give 2 shites what forum members give a shit, as its the money that counts, not opinions (or what dribble you type)
Money, its a clever thing, makes the world go round, makes the human race survive, makes you and i work to keep our family alive MONEY IS WHAT KEEPS HARDCORE ALIVE get used to or go hang urself, nuff love
Im more than aware of that, which is why i simply cant understand the mentality of the "real hardcore fans" of this forum. The people who will rant and rave about how bad an album is yet will still buy drivvle like this to "support the scene", when in actual fact it is doing this that is allowing the scene to carry on as is, churning out shite release after shite release like a factory production line - the latest bonkers being a prime example of this attitude. Money does indeed make the world go round, forum bitching and whining is completely useless in getting your point accross with regards to how you feel about an album etc that is released, especially when the very people whining for whatever reason go out and pay towards an album like this iregardless to how ****ing dreadful said album may be. This action confirms to the companies pushing this stuff out that there will always be a market, so why should they change? They stick to a certain formula because it sells. If some of the people on this forum could see that and see the bigger picture perhaps this could change. But las they are to concerned with "building up their collections" and, in their own misguided and quite frankly ignorant own way, "supporting the scene".
I, on the other hand, back up my dribble. If an album is shit and, in this case, an absoloute insult beyond that of even the latest Bonkers i will not buy it, full stop. Buying the album, like i said, confirms to the company execs, producers etc that they can not even bother trying to change things and it will still sell to mindless drones like the "real hardcore fans". I will instead buy an album like HU. I support this series, the labels, producers, DJs involved in the hope that they will continue to make the music that i love. If i were to buy an album like this latest offering from MOS, i believe that would be one giant kick in the balls for the people involved in HU for all their hard work and dedication to push boundaries and, thus, the Hardcore scene forward.
I will not hang myself (im sure that was meant in jest, if not lets have it Wilkes! ), but instead continue to rant and rave on these forums until my fingers dwindle down to mere stumps barely passing the 2nd knuckle. Wether it makes a difference to anyone, whether people actually read it, whether i make myslef look a prick in doing this i honestly couldnt give a shit 
Thank you and good night! Peace!
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Posted - 2009/06/03 : 00:34:39
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Originally posted by Meathead:will not hang myself (im sure that was meant in jest, if not lets have it Wilkes! ), but instead continue to rant and rave on these forums until my fingers dwindle down to mere stumps barely passing the 2nd knuckle. Wether it makes a difference to anyone, whether people actually read it, whether i make myslef look a prick in doing this i honestly couldnt give a shit
Thank you and good night! Peace!
Well i read it and you dont come off as a prick at all Meathead....
your right in what you wrote, i myself dont understand it when people buy music they dont like
and the scene will never change as long as it sells...people have the power to dictate the scene
but at the moment its the other way around
if you dont like the style of hardcore at the moment then dont buy it...
then the guys at the top will want to know why its not selling...and what is it people want to hear
in other words....we need to change it to what people want to hear/buy
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Posted - 2009/06/03 : 01:06:03
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Originally posted by catjam:
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Originally posted by Meathead:will not hang myself (im sure that was meant in jest, if not lets have it Wilkes! ), but instead continue to rant and rave on these forums until my fingers dwindle down to mere stumps barely passing the 2nd knuckle. Wether it makes a difference to anyone, whether people actually read it, whether i make myslef look a prick in doing this i honestly couldnt give a shit
Thank you and good night! Peace!
Well i read it and you dont come off as a prick at all Meathead....
your right in what you wrote, i myself dont understand it when people buy music they dont like
and the scene will never change as long as it sells...people have the power to dictate the scene
but at the moment its the other way around
if you dont like the style of hardcore at the moment then dont buy it...
then the guys at the top will want to know why its not selling...and what is it people want to hear
in other words....we need to change it to what people want to hear/buy
 Viva la resistance!
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/06/03 : 01:11:20
yes i agree with meathead def. don't like it, then don't buy it. and don't buy it just 2 support a scene you don't agree with.
hopefully enough ppl will start resisting on purchasing low-quality albusm, such as CXH albums that AATW will be losing money, and drop all 3 of you-kno-who
far chance from happening, but that'll b hilarious to live through if it ever happened
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Posted - 2009/06/03 : 02:59:50
Yay, come my way, pop-core :D
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Posted - 2009/06/03 : 07:42:19
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6. Eclipse - 24/7 (Squad E Remix)
That one sticks out like a sore thumb. WHY is that track on there? Everything else is new (as far as I can tell) except that one? lol
Actually it was released on vinyl in January of this year, which is the only reason I can figure it being on a "sound of 2009" album, despite it being on B16 in 2006 :P
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Yay, come my way, pop-core :D
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Posted - 2009/06/03 : 09:21:01
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
havnt got a clue how any of you can call a cd when you havnt heard the tracks.. wtf
who gives a shite if they're remixes of commercial tracks... you seem to forget hardcore (this type anyway) is under the same umbrella...
why do u think these albums are crammed with tunes that are in the charts?
coz thats who its aimed at, the regular chart buyer.. if they see names on it they recognise... they will buy it.. its called business
Who said anything about it being bad business? I said i wouldnt be buying it because of the chart remixes, simple as that. I dont want to hear this stuff so i wont buy it, simple.
Its actually very good business putting commercial tunes on a cd, we've been through this many a time with CLXH and the new Bonkers im sure, but i didnt say anything about it being bad business. And i can call a cd without hearing the tracks on it because i have had the misfortune of hearing the original commercial tracks that are to be on this album. There's no way i wanna hear them again at 170+.
Fair enough?
well put like that who am i to argue otherwise?
Wilky.
An arguement is exactly what i was expecting
Ok:
These labels that put commercial wank core albums out dont give 2 shites what forum members give a shit, as its the money that counts, not opinions (or what dribble you type)
Money, its a clever thing, makes the world go round, makes the human race survive, makes you and i work to keep our family alive MONEY IS WHAT KEEPS HARDCORE ALIVE get used to or go hang urself, nuff love
unfortunately money keeps you Alive...
We cant change that, though...
Just as we cant change the same effect money has on hardcore. But one side of hardcore isnt dependant on money, which is why its expressed as a movement and all about survival. Listen to the 'Freeform will never die' tune, thaat will express is all. Not all hardcore has to be commercialised, but nowadays, more and more is.
PS. Meatheads right!! Wilky, sometimes it sounds like your dipping your toes into topics you dont understand..
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Posted - 2009/06/03 : 09:31:00
Im postin off my fone and takes ages to type... Will be on the laptop later to continue the debate
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Posted - 2009/06/03 : 09:32:49
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Im postin off my fone and takes ages to type... Will be on the laptop later to continue the debate
Debate??
More like floor-wiping-with-ur-face!!
Booshakaya.
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