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Wilky
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why do all of these hardcore CD's have to be mixed allready, why cant they just be tracks :(



Main reason, they want the album and singles to sell


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Posted - 2009/06/04 :  22:17:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MAtRiCks's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Jimmygoat:
I think this repetition is what has eaten away at the commercial dance- this is almost an annual event, sample and loop 80's track and fit it into the same formular (Eric Pryds 'Call on me'+ any number of things that came after it). Same as in hardcore really. The retro trend is always 20 years behind (in the 80's it was the sixties the nineties the 70's, the naughties the 80's- guess whats having a proper comeback in 2012, durrrrrr)



you're very right, music seems to be like fashion in the aspect that it goes in a loop and what was once in style always comes back after some time. I don't think it's a problem though! I so wish my teen years were the 80's... :P


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Posted - 2009/06/04 :  22:26:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit oli356's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by oli356:
why do all of these hardcore CD's have to be mixed allready, why cant they just be tracks :(



Main reason, they want the album and singles to sell



well if your a DJ you want to buy CD's with unmixed tracks so u can use urself


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Wilky
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Posted - 2009/06/04 :  22:37:16  Show profile  Visit Wilky's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by oli356:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by oli356:
why do all of these hardcore CD's have to be mixed allready, why cant they just be tracks :(



Main reason, they want the album and singles to sell



well if your a DJ you want to buy CD's with unmixed tracks so u can use urself




so wait for them to be released or rip the mixed album vrsion and make nd intro


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Posted - 2009/06/04 :  22:45:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meathead's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by oli356:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by oli356:
why do all of these hardcore CD's have to be mixed allready, why cant they just be tracks :(



Main reason, they want the album and singles to sell



well if your a DJ you want to buy CD's with unmixed tracks so u can use urself




These albums arent marketed at DJs, theyre marketed to listeners. Nobody wants to listen to intros. Simple.


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Posted - 2009/06/04 :  22:50:09  Show profile  Visit Wilky's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by oli356:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by oli356:
why do all of these hardcore CD's have to be mixed allready, why cant they just be tracks :(



Main reason, they want the album and singles to sell



well if your a DJ you want to buy CD's with unmixed tracks so u can use urself




These albums arent marketed at DJs, theyre marketed to listeners. Nobody wants to listen to intros. Simple.




wrong.... sum intro's are worth lisenin tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2009/06/04 :  22:53:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage  Reply with quote
I cant wait to hear the samples! I will most likely wind up buying it, though I am not liking this new mix of "Ride Like The Wind".



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Posted - 2009/06/04 :  23:17:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by oli356:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by oli356:
why do all of these hardcore CD's have to be mixed allready, why cant they just be tracks :(



Main reason, they want the album and singles to sell



well if your a DJ you want to buy CD's with unmixed tracks so u can use urself




These albums arent marketed at DJs, theyre marketed to listeners. Nobody wants to listen to intros. Simple.




they need to be marketed at djs, especially some djs that have sets on the radio show. i've heard quite a few of the mixes on here, and i've heard some of them using tracks from mixed albums. some of the transitions on the mixes are so bad you can tell they come from mixed albums. they don't do a good job at disguising the sound, or pickin a good spot for the start of the transitions.

also, an umixed album is less expensive than buying tracks 1 by 1. juno sells all 3 hardcore adrenaline albums in unmixed version, except i believe the 1st one. it only has a select few that are unmixed. but it is a great money saver for the 2nd and 3rd one if you liked a lot of the songs. each album comes out to be $16 USD

I myself enjoy listening to the intros, but i am also going to try to buy a set so that i can learn mixing. so i welcome more unmixed albums, especially if the tunes are really amazing. damn i wish that HU3 came in unmixed i would love that!


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Posted - 2009/06/04 :  23:19:00  Show profile  Visit Wilky's homepage  Reply with quote
after cinin this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsraE3hUGkg .... im lookin forward too it

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Posted - 2009/06/06 :  15:24:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MAtRiCks's homepage  Reply with quote
F*** Yeah, I was gonna say the same Wilky.

After Hearing that song you posted on the other thread,14. Virtue & Slammer - Don't Go (Gammer Remix) , and after hearing the original for Star Pilots - In The Heat Of The Night, that D&G are remixing, I'm hyped. Sounds like a great summer album.


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Posted - 2009/06/06 :  15:28:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage  Reply with quote
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F*** Yeah, I was gonna say the same Wilky.

After Hearing that song you posted on the other thread,14. Virtue & Slammer - Don't Go (Gammer Remix) , and after hearing the original for Star Pilots - In The Heat Of The Night, that D&G are remixing, I'm hyped. Sounds like a great summer album.



Is that "Heat Of The Night" track new? It sounds so early 90s! I love it! Can't wait to hear what D&G have done to it.


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Posted - 2009/06/06 :  16:05:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MAtRiCks's homepage  Reply with quote
Yeah, I think it's brand new cause I searched but couldn't find an original for it, although it's clearly stealing elements from multiple 80's pop tracks. It's Star Pilot's first single and just came out in May. Check out their other single, Higher, I think it's wicked.<

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Originally posted by oli356:
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by oli356:
why do all of these hardcore CD's have to be mixed allready, why cant they just be tracks :(


Main reason, they want the album and singles to sell


well if your a DJ you want to buy CD's with unmixed tracks so u can use urself



Why, of course you want to have all the songs that come out so you can mix them right away yourself, but it doesn't mean the producers will give them to you anyways :P At least not before they rocked the crowd with it themselves, and the song has been heard enough not to be so exclusive anymore. Then they revive it by releasing the extended version to all the other dj's.


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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
Yeah, I think it's brand new cause I searched but couldn't find an original for it, although it's clearly stealing elements from multiple 80's pop tracks. It's Star Pilot's first single and just came out in May. Check out their other single, Higher, I think it's wicked.



You and I are just suckers for Euro cheese :P


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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
Yeah, I think it's brand new cause I searched but couldn't find an original for it, although it's clearly stealing elements from multiple 80's pop tracks. It's Star Pilot's first single and just came out in May. Check out their other single, Higher, I think it's wicked.



You and I are just suckers for Euro cheese :P



damn right! XD


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Posted - 2009/06/06 :  16:14:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MAtRiCks's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by oli356:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by oli356:
why do all of these hardcore CD's have to be mixed allready, why cant they just be tracks :(



Main reason, they want the album and singles to sell



well if your a DJ you want to buy CD's with unmixed tracks so u can use urself




These albums arent marketed at DJs, theyre marketed to listeners. Nobody wants to listen to intros. Simple.




they need to be marketed at djs, especially some djs that have sets on the radio show. i've heard quite a few of the mixes on here, and i've heard some of them using tracks from mixed albums. some of the transitions on the mixes are so bad you can tell they come from mixed albums. they don't do a good job at disguising the sound, or pickin a good spot for the start of the transitions.

also, an umixed album is less expensive than buying tracks 1 by 1. juno sells all 3 hardcore adrenaline albums in unmixed version, except i believe the 1st one. it only has a select few that are unmixed. but it is a great money saver for the 2nd and 3rd one if you liked a lot of the songs. each album comes out to be $16 USD

I myself enjoy listening to the intros, but i am also going to try to buy a set so that i can learn mixing. so i welcome more unmixed albums, especially if the tunes are really amazing. damn i wish that HU3 came in unmixed i would love that!



Of course the dj's would all love for albums to be released both Extended and Mixed like Hardcore Nation 2009, but as we've all seen this raised the anger of many many producers who had tracks on the album. They did NOT want their tracks distributed to all the amateur dj's and overplayed **cough**Building Shaker**cough** before THEY could showcase the tracks in their live mixes themselves!


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