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warped_candykid
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 Posted - 2009/09/06 : 01:04:53
I find some good tracks here and there, and I am liking the majority of HTID, but I do get what you are saying. I miss the raw drums, the snare drum rolls, the chipmunky vocals, lyrics about stars, the moon, the rainbow, the sun. I miss the funny noises and the ear-splitting grinding sound used as a melody, like in Edit V's "Music Is Moving" and DJ Vibes' "Hardcore Business".
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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 01:29:48
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Originally posted by SPOOX:
Well the new stuff anyway. I've put up with it long enough & after buying the new HTID album i can't believe how bad it's got. I can't remember the last time i heard a Hardcore track & thought WOW what a choon. I'll just stick to the earlier stuff now. What i call proper Hardcore.
Anybody else feel this way?
No. Htid2 and hu3 are riddled with tunes that i think'wow' at. The entire 4th cd os hu4 is 'wow'. It annoys me how many hardcore haters there are at the moment, the scenes at its most popular and its most diverse so why do people complain?
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 01:46:20
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Originally posted by tru bass:
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Originally posted by SPOOX:
Well the new stuff anyway. I've put up with it long enough & after buying the new HTID album i can't believe how bad it's got. I can't remember the last time i heard a Hardcore track & thought WOW what a choon. I'll just stick to the earlier stuff now. What i call proper Hardcore.
Anybody else feel this way?
No. Htid2 and hu3 are riddled with tunes that i think'wow' at. The entire 4th cd os hu4 is 'wow'. It annoys me how many hardcore haters there are at the moment, the scenes at its most popular and its most diverse so why do people complain?
I don't think its very diverse at all.. all the big names seem to stick the same style that got them fame, and those styles are all very similar. htid2 contains very little diversity. hardcore in the early 2000's was diverse, with new artists trying out new stuff with a new revitalised genre in its infancy.
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 02:33:47
It's most definately the worst that it's ever been in terms of the Hardcore that people got into before 2002; it's a completely different genre these days.
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Jester MC
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 02:55:44
really tired of these arguments that go in circles.
i agree with tru bass. i still say WOW at tracks all the time. WHY THE HELL does what the big names play have ANYTHING to do with how diverse the scene is. Last count people complaining about the big names dont listen to them, and have less known names as favorites. the scene has more people at parties, more contries listening to it, more producers than ever shit or talented. just because its different than what came first and you dont like it, it doesnt mean hardcore's bland.
THE PAST IS GONE GET OVER IT HARDCORE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME JUST LIKE EVERYTHING IN LIFE! ive always been sooooooooo confused as to why in hardcore in particular we always look to the past, while every other genre seems to see the light and concentrates o the future.
i also dont expect an ALBUM to be diverse. its an album meaning this is one way to look at hardcore, one sound, the one that the people making the albums are interested in showing. Unless the album is made and marketed speciffically to be full of diversity, its not expected to be.
WHY is it blasphemy for say hixxy to have a bunch of tracks on an album, but if an up and comming, bedroom producer, makes an hour long mix of his/her tracks and releases it as an album its OK.
i think people get ALBUMS and Mixed CD's confused
you cant say best or worst because it music and that means personal opinion reigns supreem.
now, if someone doesnt like whats comming out lately, that is a seperate issue and they are perfectly within their rights to stop listening, but id still pay attention if i were you because guess what a couple years from now it wont be the same AGAIN! and again a few years after that!
be happy that hardcore has lasted almost 20 years or 15 at least. many mainstream genre's or fad's i should say, should be so lucky
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SPOOX
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 07:42:51
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Originally posted by Jester MC:
Now, if someone doesnt like whats comming out lately, that is a seperate issue and they are perfectly within their rights to stop listening, but id still pay attention if i were you because guess what a couple years from now it wont be the same AGAIN! and again a few years after that!
Fingers crossed it won't be the same. It needs to change & fast. Everyone has different opinions but to me Hardcore now is dull, boring & pretty much all sounds the same.
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 08:47:34
Well said jester - WOW! what a post!
Hardcore is goin to sound the same, its hardcore, its a genre thats what makes it different from RnB...
Whoever said hardcore is just trance, them im pretty sure they dont listen to trance
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kathryn
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 10:48:17
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I find some good tracks here and there, and I am liking the majority of HTID, but I do get what you are saying. I miss the raw drums, the snare drum rolls, the chipmunky vocals, lyrics about stars, the moon, the rainbow, the sun. I miss the funny noises and the ear-splitting grinding sound used as a melody, like in Edit V's "Music Is Moving" and DJ Vibes' "Hardcore Business".
2 fantastic tunes they are
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 10:49:17
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I find some good tracks here and there, and I am liking the majority of HTID, but I do get what you are saying. I miss the raw drums, the snare drum rolls, the chipmunky vocals, lyrics about stars, the moon, the rainbow, the sun. I miss the funny noises and the ear-splitting grinding sound used as a melody, like in Edit V's "Music Is Moving" and DJ Vibes' "Hardcore Business".
2 fantastic tunes they are
oh and please get rid of the mc's killing the tunes.
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SPOOX
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 11:28:42
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Originally posted by Wilky:
Well said jester - WOW! what a post!
Hardcore is goin to sound the same, its hardcore, its a genre thats what makes it different from RnB...
Whoever said hardcore is just trance, them im pretty sure they dont listen to trance
You can't say that Hardcore's going to sound the same because it never used too. I mean the basics are the same but practically every choon sounded different to the other. Not now.
lmao @ Hardcore is just Trance!! OK Hardcore a few years ago was Trancey sounding but it's far from being the same.
Been listening to quite a bit of Trance lately. Mainly stuff on YouTube though as i'm not that clued up on it yet.
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 12:40:06
I don't know what people have with saying Hardcore sounds like Trance, it doesn't at all ! Not even some years ago !
Yeah, Trancecore/Freeform has some influences from trance/progressive house, but then you could aswell say Drum & Bass sounds like rock.
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 12:51:52
i think you'll find they/we mean trance at the cheesy end of the spectrum
Alice Deejay, DJ Sammy, Cascada...all on 45
after all, trance is a massive genre, with a few varying sub-genres under it!
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 13:27:52
Cascada and stuff like that is not Trance.. it's Euro-Dance, Handsup, etc stuff like that.
Maybe people mean trance like DJ Splash ( I never understood why he's called DJ Splash btw, never heard a mix from him ).
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Physx
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 13:39:11
09. COH 2 CD2 - Himbo, Statik and Enemy - Haters
cough, have a good listen.
Yes, some artists are producing utter shit, remixes of old tunes, or makng full CD's with nothing new on them, and comercialising themselves (no names mentioned but u know who i mean, its justified to moan about these muppets).
But FFS why brand ALL hardcore as bad? Any1 who says it is is a ****ing crychild and needs to either get over it, listen to the decent songs and stop moaning about it, or just **** off because you people are a ****ing parasite to the scene.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 14:24:17
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Cascada and stuff like that is not Trance.. it's Euro-Dance, Handsup, etc stuff like that.
Maybe people mean trance like DJ Splash ( I never understood why he's called DJ Splash btw, never heard a mix from him ).
mmm well, to be bluntly honest the line between Cheesy Trance and Eurodance is very blurred,
and frankly, debating what style Cascada and DJ Sammy are is on the bottom of my list of things to do, right after pulling my own nuts off with a rusty tongs.
my point is, i knew/know what they mean and were referencing :)
and besides - "hands up"?....
..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro-Trance
euro-trance..subgenre of trance...so i would say they are pretty justified in saying trance..seeing as euro-trance is a subgenre
this still doesnt help me with jumpstyle/hardstyle
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