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warped_candykid
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 Posted - 2009/09/06 : 15:16:47
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I find some good tracks here and there, and I am liking the majority of HTID, but I do get what you are saying. I miss the raw drums, the snare drum rolls, the chipmunky vocals, lyrics about stars, the moon, the rainbow, the sun. I miss the funny noises and the ear-splitting grinding sound used as a melody, like in Edit V's "Music Is Moving" and DJ Vibes' "Hardcore Business".
2 fantastic tunes they are
But do you know what I am talking about, that scraping sound used as the melody? I looove that.
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 15:35:29
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Cascada and stuff like that is not Trance.. it's Euro-Dance, Handsup, etc stuff like that.
Maybe people mean trance like DJ Splash ( I never understood why he's called DJ Splash btw, never heard a mix from him ).
mmm well, to be bluntly honest the line between Cheesy Trance and Eurodance is very blurred,
and frankly, debating what style Cascada and DJ Sammy are is on the bottom of my list of things to do, right after pulling my own nuts off with a rusty tongs.
my point is, i knew/know what they mean and were referencing :)
and besides - "hands up"?....
..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro-Trance
euro-trance..subgenre of trance...so i would say they are pretty justified in saying trance..seeing as euro-trance is a subgenre
this still doesnt help me with jumpstyle/hardstyle
Yeah I read that, lol "Stylistic origins : Happy Hardcore".. I didn't know uplifting house/trance has influences from Happy Hardcore :P
Anyway, do you think this here sounds like progressive/uplifting trance ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmGbgT9gUN8
Don't think so. This goes more in the direction of Hardbass/Hardstyle. Most tracks like that are actually on Hardbass compilations.
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 15:38:41
I thought Euro-Dance was pretty much outdated and that it was just poppy-like trance.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 15:51:10
hardbass? this is just getting stupid now lol
like i said earlyer, give it a bouncer kick and slow it down a little, it basically becomes jumpstyle...keep it the same and slap a donk on it and you have bouncey house lol
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 16:00:17
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
hardbass? this is just getting stupid now lol
like i said earlyer, give it a bouncer kick and slow it down a little, it basically becomes jumpstyle...keep it the same and slap a donk on it and you have bouncey house lol
hardbase is just a european name for hardstyle int it?
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 16:02:13
no idea, sounds pretty stupid though, like naming somthing "hands up"
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 16:04:57
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Originally posted by SPOOX:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
Well said jester - WOW! what a post!
Hardcore is goin to sound the same, its hardcore, its a genre thats what makes it different from RnB...
Whoever said hardcore is just trance, them im pretty sure they dont listen to trance
You can't say that Hardcore's going to sound the same because it never used too. I mean the basics are the same but practically every choon sounded different to the other. Not now.
lmao @ Hardcore is just Trance!! OK Hardcore a few years ago was Trancey sounding but it's far from being the same.
Been listening to quite a bit of Trance lately. Mainly stuff on YouTube though as i'm not that clued up on it yet.
rm hello... so happy hardcore of th 90s didnt die coz it was vry vry amey by 1999? all th bonkers before 8 dont sound the same?
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 19:24:53
I think Hardbass is just a compilation featuring Handsup, Hard Trance and some Hardstyle. I don't know I'm not sure, but my cousin own a lot of those.
Oh and btw, "Hardbass" or "Handsup" sounds just as stupid as "Hardcore".
You could aswell say "House" sounds stupid. Why House ?? Why not Flat ? Or Garden ?!
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 19:37:45
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
I think Hardbass is just a compilation featuring Handsup, Hard Trance and some Hardstyle. I don't know I'm not sure, but my cousin own a lot of those.
Oh and btw, "Hardbass" or "Handsup" sounds just as stupid as "Hardcore".
You could aswell say "House" sounds stupid. Why House ?? Why not Flat ? Or Garden ?!
its actually handz up... nice forum on here you might like - check out the radio aswel.. ****in brill
www.technobase.fm
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 20:13:57
dont forget garage!
there is a line, and think calling things "hands up" "arms down" "feet spread" and "cock out" is just pushing it. just because people who are into trance dont want cheesy trance assocaited with trance, try and split it off into a completly brand new genre which has nothing to do with them...when at the end of the day its just cheeeeeeeesy trance
same with jumpstyle and hardstyle, bet there are some headstrong hardstyle-heads out there who will insist that hardstyle has absolutly nothing to do with jumpstyle
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 20:48:18
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there is a line, and think calling things "hands up" "arms down" "feet spread" and "cock out" is just pushing it.
Could not agree more, and LOL. As for Hardstyle and Jumpstyle though there is a very clear difference when it comes to ACTUAL Hardstyle and ACTUAL Jumpstyle; you just need to hear the genres properly. Hearing only the commercial side of any genre is a terrible representation (not that you have, but if you have).
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Posted - 2009/09/06 : 21:52:55
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But FFS why brand ALL hardcore as bad? Any1 who says it is is a ****ing crychild and needs to either get over it, listen to the decent songs and stop moaning about it, or just **** off because you people are a ****ing parasite to the scene.
You wanna try learning to read mate. As i said in an earlier post. THERE ARE SOME GOOD CHOONS OUT THERE but the majority of the new stuff is shit.
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Posted - 2009/09/07 : 10:54:46
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this still doesnt help me with jumpstyle/hardstyle
Isn't hardstyle just hard Hard Trance? I guess Jumpstyle would be a sub-genre of trance too, but I can hardly tell the difference :p
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Posted - 2009/09/07 : 15:41:28
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Originally posted by näkkk:
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
this still doesnt help me with jumpstyle/hardstyle
Isn't hardstyle just hard Hard Trance?
Not really. Usually hardstyle is slower with stronger, gabber-esque kicks. Also unlike hard trance, a majority of hardstyle tunes use the 3/4 time signature. Hard trance usually runs faster with a 4/4 beat, and is, well, dry and heavy in sound. It does have the hard kicks as well, albeit typically with a lot less distortion. Those are the biggest differences if you ask me.
There is some hard trance out there that is borderline hardstyle, though (tracks like Kamui - Arena come to mind).
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Posted - 2009/09/07 : 15:59:39
Bye bye Hardcore, you wont see SPOOX around
and i will surrender, goodbye Hardcore
wont let you drag me down
goodbye Hardcore
Joking aside....i hear yeh
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