SPOOX Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,644 posts Joined: Jul, 2006
Posted - 2009/09/15 : 20:17:46
Hardcore just ain't uplifting anymore. It's lost it's spark (If that's the right word to use). I'm just very very bored with it all at the moment. One main reason is the constant remixes of crappy chart music. I HATE chart music & have done since 1990 so why would i wanna hear a Hardcore remix of something i already hate. It was different in the 90's because most chart music remixes were of 80's choons. I like most 80's stuff so it's different. Hopefully something will change with either the music or me & i'll get the love for Hardcore back again someday.
whittle1 Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,191 posts Joined: Jan, 2005
25 hardcore releases
Posted - 2009/09/15 : 21:03:20
quote:Originally posted by SPOOX:
Hardcore just ain't uplifting anymore. It's lost it's spark (If that's the right word to use). I'm just very very bored with it all at the moment. One main reason is the constant remixes of crappy chart music. I HATE chart music & have done since 1990 so why would i wanna hear a Hardcore remix of something i already hate. It was different in the 90's because most chart music remixes were of 80's choons. I like most 80's stuff so it's different. Hopefully something will change with either the music or me & i'll get the love for Hardcore back again someday.
You're clearly listening to the wrong type of hardcore mate. Mainstream hardcore will continuely churn out this repetitive balls. It's hard to ignore it, but please do, and you'll soon see that when you look in the right places, you can unearth the occassional gem ;)
SPOOX Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,644 posts Joined: Jul, 2006
Posted - 2009/09/15 : 21:40:20
quote:Originally posted by whittle1:
quote:Originally posted by SPOOX:
Hardcore just ain't uplifting anymore. It's lost it's spark (If that's the right word to use). I'm just very very bored with it all at the moment. One main reason is the constant remixes of crappy chart music. I HATE chart music & have done since 1990 so why would i wanna hear a Hardcore remix of something i already hate. It was different in the 90's because most chart music remixes were of 80's choons. I like most 80's stuff so it's different. Hopefully something will change with either the music or me & i'll get the love for Hardcore back again someday.
You're clearly listening to the wrong type of hardcore mate. Mainstream hardcore will continuely churn out this repetitive balls. It's hard to ignore it, but please do, and you'll soon see that when you look in the right places, you can unearth the occassional gem ;)
Not true. I listen to all types of Hardcore. You're right in saying that there are the odd gems out there though but I'm just bored to death with it at the moment. Maybe after 19 years in the scene i'm getting too old to listen to Hardcore? I still love the old stuff so hopefully not.
kathryn Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,520 posts Joined: Apr, 2005
Posted - 2009/09/16 : 18:34:15
quote:Originally posted by SPOOX:
quote:Originally posted by whittle1:
quote:Originally posted by SPOOX:
Hardcore just ain't uplifting anymore. It's lost it's spark (If that's the right word to use). I'm just very very bored with it all at the moment. One main reason is the constant remixes of crappy chart music. I HATE chart music & have done since 1990 so why would i wanna hear a Hardcore remix of something i already hate. It was different in the 90's because most chart music remixes were of 80's choons. I like most 80's stuff so it's different. Hopefully something will change with either the music or me & i'll get the love for Hardcore back again someday.
You're clearly listening to the wrong type of hardcore mate. Mainstream hardcore will continuely churn out this repetitive balls. It's hard to ignore it, but please do, and you'll soon see that when you look in the right places, you can unearth the occassional gem ;)
Not true. I listen to all types of Hardcore. You're right in saying that there are the odd gems out there though but I'm just bored to death with it at the moment. Maybe after 19 years in the scene i'm getting too old to listen to Hardcore? I still love the old stuff so hopefully not.
Couldnt agree more and Whittle am still waiting for you to send me your Man United Curtains
Starstruck Advanced Member
Australia
1,152 posts Joined: Jul, 2008
Posted - 2009/09/22 : 01:29:32
Look, not ALL hardcore sounds the same. But there has to be quite a broad spectrum in the genre itself , to cater for everything, i think that's how Hardcore keeps going strong.
In saying that, i actually do agree with you Spoox indeed. It's always been on my mind and i've always thought that. Which is why i've started up Australia with Force, trying to move away from the generic bland styles of Hardcore and bring to Hardcore NEW things. Trying to get Aussie Hardcore on the map as a different style of Hardcore, which i beleive i can prove that it is. But more importantly, as mentioned previously, i must try to emphasize fresh Hardcore, nothing that's always boring and generic or bland. Same synth line strucutres, minimalistic boring beats, typical saw/square detuned bassline, etc.
I've had loads of people msg me loving AWF's style, and i'm not doing the label for me so much (it doesnt make much sense to do it for me, and it's not what i'm on about), i'm doing it for Hardcore and for Australia.
I am going to have to say that most of the top compilations are utterly tacky at parts. I mean seriously, there comes a certain line when samish tunes and Hands-Up remixes take their toll. This is not Hardcore, no way it is.
I think the big roll in Hardcore and the ones who can contribute to this are the label owners, and the producers that support the labels. They're the ones pushing the material and spending hours of Hard work (CDJay, Fracus, Thumpa), and i'd even say myself, because as a label owner this is paramount in my eyes.
I've seen people leave Hardcore and i've talked to people lately who actually feel they have to leave Hardcore as it all seems to pessimistic at the moment.
But in the end, the label owners are pushing and organizing the material, and the producers are contributing. Surely more of this is much better than alot more bland material.
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choonland Advanced Member
Colombia
1,100 posts Joined: Dec, 2007
Posted - 2009/10/03 : 06:26:01
quote:Originally posted by The Doc:
I've said it before and I'll say it again! If you think its shite don't buy it, and make something diferent!
I've been doing a lot of thinking lately, and i have came to the conclusion that it is actually NOT posible to make something different, what ever producers do will be either something we've heard before, therefore boring, or it will be so progressive it won't be hardcore anymore, therefore... nobody will like it :(
pretty much a dead end
the way i see it, every style of music has a limited amount of variables and elements, and all musicians do is to play with this variables and create songs. the most memorable songs are created when these variables are being explored and discovered, when everything is new and exiting.
the problem is that every genre reaches a point when all posibilities have been explored, which can be a period of 10-20 years top, and is in this point when is not posible to make new songs without they sound repetive. not because new producers don't have talent, or becuase old producers lost the magic, no, its because everything you hear has already been done. plain and simple. All the BEST possible combinations of elements have been done, and all the new stuff is just attempts to imitate those memorable combinations.
Jester MC Senior Member
Canada
284 posts Joined: May, 2008
Posted - 2009/10/03 : 15:17:02
^^rock and roll, rap, pop, jazz, country, EDM as a whole, not to mention classical music, would tent to disagree as all of these genres are over 20 years old and ever evolving
rosin007 Senior Member
Norway
409 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2009/10/04 : 13:22:48
Well Clubland and Hardcore Nation and HTID, I think, is too main stream, I like the indie hardcore from smaller labels.
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