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Meathead
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 Posted - 2010/01/10 : 23:38:51
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Originally posted by Trimms:
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Maybe FL isn't such a good choice if that's the sort of stuff it comes out with :p. Bad choice of tune to demonstrate a programme's capabilities dude.
That song made almost a billion dollars. It might be the worst song in the world but it could definitely sell the product.
Maybe, but if you lisen to it the production is actually shit. But with Hip Hop/R&B as long as you have a catchy, usually novelty, tune it will sell. People are idiots, simple and will buy whatever crap is put in front of them. Production-wise and musically i don't rate this track at all, in fact it's not even music imo. I stand by what i said - bad choice of tune to demonstrate a programme's capabilities.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/01/11 : 00:48:39
It's so bad it makes me feel ill. Definately *not* what i consider music either.
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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2010/01/11 : 00:59:47
I own Reason myself and highly recommend it but mainly as a VST. You want something you can sync Audio files with when choosing a DAW (syncing a vocal track inside a sampler is just plain insane!). I use Cubase (studio 4) which solves the problem in that respect. propellerheads (the makers of Reason) put out a new piece called RECORD in the last few months as the solution to using audio Files. I haven't used that though so no comments. as far as a I know the newer fruity loops have audio lanes too.
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Trimms
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Posted - 2010/01/11 : 01:12:11
I don't judge a song on its production, but musically it is pretty shitty.
As for production I could give 2 shits, some of the best songs in the world are underproduced and it makes them that much better.
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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2010/01/11 : 09:27:23
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The thing is most professionals use Cubase so if you want to really hit it out, you need to be careful what you use. It's way easier for someone to remix your stuff if they can grip up a Cubase project file rather than fiddle about with lots of MIDI files.
But the other posts are right, it's really about the skill of the producer. For example this song was made with FL Studio's DEMO and it was easily the biggest song of its time when it came out in America:
Your skill will ultimately decide your outcome, not your software.
your full of shit.. demo cant save files so it cant be made with demo :)
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Shades
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Posted - 2010/01/11 : 09:49:34
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your full of shit.. demo cant save files so it cant be made with demo :)
woah....... you can still export wav files in the demo, so yeah it is possible if they never switched the program off till it was finished.... which prob took around half hour lmao
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/01/11 : 15:01:32
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Originally posted by Shades_of_Grey:
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Originally posted by Project-Industrial:
your full of shit.. demo cant save files so it cant be made with demo :)
which prob took around half hour lmao
Sounds about right.
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Citrick
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Posted - 2010/01/11 : 18:21:14
On topic, I tried out FL 9 but its a lot more resource hungry then previous versions so that's something to be careful of.
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CiALiN
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Posted - 2010/01/11 : 18:30:49
wait why would you send a full project for someone to remix??correct me if im wrong but if you are a pro and asked to do a remix you will be given midi files and wav of certain elements of the tune..
i use fl9 and im happy with it atm...maybe a year or two down the line ill consider changing but whats the point now when it does everything i need
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Trimms
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Posted - 2010/01/12 : 13:24:12
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Originally posted by Project-Industrial:
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Originally posted by Trimms:
The thing is most professionals use Cubase so if you want to really hit it out, you need to be careful what you use. It's way easier for someone to remix your stuff if they can grip up a Cubase project file rather than fiddle about with lots of MIDI files.
But the other posts are right, it's really about the skill of the producer. For example this song was made with FL Studio's DEMO and it was easily the biggest song of its time when it came out in America:
Your skill will ultimately decide your outcome, not your software.
your full of shit.. demo cant save files so it cant be made with demo :)
Nah, you just have no idea what you're talking about.
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CiALiN
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Posted - 2010/01/12 : 13:49:50
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Originally posted by Trimms:
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Originally posted by Project-Industrial:
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Originally posted by Trimms:
The thing is most professionals use Cubase so if you want to really hit it out, you need to be careful what you use. It's way easier for someone to remix your stuff if they can grip up a Cubase project file rather than fiddle about with lots of MIDI files.
But the other posts are right, it's really about the skill of the producer. For example this song was made with FL Studio's DEMO and it was easily the biggest song of its time when it came out in America:
Your skill will ultimately decide your outcome, not your software.
your full of shit.. demo cant save files so it cant be made with demo :)
Nah, you just have no idea what you're talking about.
in the demo???dont think so..how was it rendered??and opened was it all made in one day like
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2010/01/12 : 15:34:05
One of my mates used to make dodgy DnB tunes on the FL Demo. :P He would just make them in one session and render. Obviously you can't go back in if you need to...
Can you not render in the Demo anymore or something? That was probably version 4 or 5 at the time so may have been different I guess.
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Shades
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Posted - 2010/01/12 : 16:17:40
you still could in FL7, which is why i said what i did above
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2010/01/13 : 01:17:52
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It's the easiest to use but certainly not the best.
Wrong. In using the specific example of FL Vs. Cubase, i know plenty of people that moved to Cubase BECAUSE they found FL to be counter-intuitive for them. I know plenty on the other side of the argument too. So it isn't necessarily the easiest.
Also, i'd like to know what you're basing your "it certainly isn't the best" argument on.
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Originally posted by Trimms:
The thing is most professionals use Cubase so if you want to really hit it out, you need to be careful what you use. It's way easier for someone to remix your stuff if they can grip up a Cubase project file rather than fiddle about with lots of MIDI files.
That's LARGELY debatable. With the introduction of Logic, a LOT of "Professionals" are moving to Logic because they have Macs. Also, sending a project file for a remix is basically unheard of. I've never heard of it, and i've never heard anyone ever mention it before. Not really how it happens.
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Originally posted by CiALiN:
wait why would you send a full project for someone to remix??correct me if im wrong but if you are a pro and asked to do a remix you will be given midi files and wav of certain elements of the tune..
I don't know of anyone who has sent a project file for a remix. It'd be pointless because essentially you'd just export the midis and wave files you needed... which is what is given to you when you remix a track. Sequencer does NOT hold any restrictions for remixing someone else's work, OR for getting your own work remixes. Nor for engineering or mastering.
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Originally posted by Trimms:
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Originally posted by Project-Industrial:
your full of shit.. demo cant save files so it cant be made with demo :)
Nah, you just have no idea what you're talking about.
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Trimms
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Posted - 2010/01/13 : 03:47:44
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Also, i'd like to know what you're basing your "it certainly isn't the best" argument on.
Personal experience.
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That's LARGELY debatable. With the introduction of Logic, a LOT of "Professionals" are moving to Logic because they have Macs. Also, sending a project file for a remix is basically unheard of. I've never heard of it, and i've never heard anyone ever mention it before. Not really how it happens.
Sorry I meant collaborating.
That being said, you also say you've never heard anyone mention it before, however, I know plenty of producers that do this. And if you don't want to believe me then just watch the Styles & Breeze computer music vid or whatever it is. They transfer project files.
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People in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks.
No, you may disagree with my other statements but that doesn't change the fact that you CAN export .wav's or .mp3's in FL Studio and that the person who quoted me, being rather brash and rude, was wrong.
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