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FingazMc
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 Posted - 2010/04/30 : 22:54:12
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Originally posted by FingazMc:
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Wait a sec i thought i was Jesus...?
Nah mate, you're thinking of the Beatles.
Damn, i got excited then.....Mind you i wonder who "Lauren in trackies Sippin Diamond white" would think was bigger ;) ;)
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Probably me as i am the Walrus...
But Sgt pepper said let it be after a hard days night so lets come together because i want to tell you that IM BIGGER THAN JESUS ;) ;)
You win :(
Yey i actually achieved something....Besides chlamydia ;)
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jenks
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Posted - 2010/04/30 : 23:05:56
Is there a ban on balaclavas too? Seems a bit excessive if we're talking about walking around in public, but I can understand shopkeepers being worried about customers who chose to conceal their face, and I would agree with a policy on teachers not being allowed to wear them too, as 90% of communication is non-verbal...
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atomsk
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Posted - 2010/04/30 : 23:31:17
Do you guys understand what a burka was meant for?
Allah like asked for the women to cover them selfs so they wouldnt be looked down as a piece of ass to men, and it was and still is a choice to wear them, most religions from the middle east dont require the women to wear anything, its more of a choice to do it. Some wear an abaya (ones with the face open) but thats only from some country's, but most will wear a khimar/hijab (like a head scarf type thing with the face open)..
So i dont really see why there is a uprise about a ban on them, its just a style that some women want to wear, so basically its so the can cover them selfs and not feel like a guy is starring at their body, and so they dont look like a lot of girls who look like whores in the "bigger and better" country.
Tbh, ive talked to a few girls who wore a burka, and got to know them without ever seeing their faces, and then they actual showed me, and holy ****ing shit! they were really pretty, maybe its the fact i got to know them before i seen their face's or something else...
But i really dont think they should band them, i think its more of a discrimination then anything, cuz they are worried about the suicide bombers then anything, but its just crap.
And not trying to be mean or anything, but some of you guys sound like raciest pricks in here,and dont seem like you are open minded about other religions.... btw im christian....
Ohh and @ fishy's thing about the bible.... It wasnt god who wrote any of it, it was his disciples, and random people who wrote it, people who thought god was talking to, then hundreds of years later they found the books of the "other people" and made the new king james version, only the old testament was made by the disciples..... Well afaik lol
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 Posted - 2010/04/30 : 23:40:40
I know what.... Im mashed out me head... U thonl im racidt?.... Fuvk grliion..... Itd guckrf uo fufe
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Fishy
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Posted - 2010/04/30 : 23:41:15
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Originally posted by atomsk:
Do you guys understand what a burka was meant for?
Allah like asked for the women to cover them selfs so they wouldnt be looked down as a piece of ass to men, and it was and still is a choice to wear them, most religions from the middle east dont require the women to wear anything, its more of a choice to do it. Some wear an abaya (ones with the face open) but thats only from some country's, but most will wear a khimar/hijab (like a head scarf type thing with the face open)..
So i dont really see why there is a uprise about a ban on them, its just a style that some women want to wear, so basically its so the can cover them selfs and not feel like a guy is starring at their body, and so they dont look like a lot of girls who look like whores in the "bigger and better" country.
Tbh, ive talked to a few girls who wore a burka, and got to know them without ever seeing their faces, and then they actual showed me, and holy ****ing shit! they were really pretty, maybe its the fact i got to know them before i seen their face's or something else...
But i really dont think they should band them, i think its more of a discrimination then anything, cuz they are worried about the suicide bombers then anything, but its just crap.
And not trying to be mean or anything, but some of you guys sound like raciest pricks in here,and dont seem like you are open minded about other religions.... btw im christian....
Ohh and @ fishy's thing about the bible.... It wasnt god who wrote any of it, it was his disciples, and random people who wrote it, people who thought god was talking to, then hundreds of years later they found the books of the "other people" and made the new king james version, only the old testament was made by the disciples..... Well afaik lol
Gods diciples? i think u mean jesus diciples and that was the new testament, but ye of course is it all written by humans, but its still ment to be the word of god in the old testament
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Lilley
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Posted - 2010/05/01 : 02:21:52
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Aren't women forced to wear them in some places in the middle east? Oh that's already been mentioned, nevermind.
We're talking about belgium and rest of the world here, not the middle east. At least, I was.
@ Fishy: whole bible is the word of God, written by man. That goes for both NT and OT. The way the thinking goes is if God is omnipotent, he can certainly control what gets written down by a mere human, so that it says what he wants it to. OT was mainly written by prophets and others, NT by apostles (with some exceptions but there was a criteria).
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It wasnt god who wrote any of it, it was his disciples, and random people who wrote it, people who thought god was talking to, then hundreds of years later they found the books of the "other people" and made the new king james version, only the old testament was made by the disciples..... Well afaik lol
how about next time you post on the subject, you get a clue first?
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Lilley
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Posted - 2010/05/01 : 02:26:40
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and it was and still is a choice to wear them, most religions from the middle east dont require the women to wear anything, its more of a choice to do it.
pretty certain this is rubbish. At least, they can wear what they want but they will get stoned to death if they are not wearing appropriate gear (country depending) and cause men to lust. Not much of a choice is it?
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jenks
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Posted - 2010/05/01 : 04:01:39
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Originally posted by atomsk:
and it was and still is a choice to wear them, most religions from the middle east dont require the women to wear anything, its more of a choice to do it.
pretty certain this is rubbish. At least, they can wear what they want but they will get stoned to death if they are not wearing appropriate gear (country depending) and cause men to lust. Not much of a choice is it?
What you're talking about is extreme cases in places like Saudi Arabia, the vast majority of Islamic countries are nothing like that, though women are oppressed in other ways. A woman could drive around in a sports car in Tehran dressed like a typical Essex bint with no trouble, whereas a woman could be thrown in jail in Afghanistan for walking down the street without an escort. You really can't generalise.
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Posted - 2010/05/01 : 04:56:23
well if they dont want to be seen... stay inside your ****** home and dont get out!!
because here we like to wacth!! we demand they respect our culture!!!!
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Posted - 2010/05/01 : 06:17:34
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Originally posted by atomsk:
and it was and still is a choice to wear them, most religions from the middle east dont require the women to wear anything, its more of a choice to do it.
pretty certain this is rubbish. At least, they can wear what they want but they will get stoned to death if they are not wearing appropriate gear (country depending) and cause men to lust. Not much of a choice is it?
That was my point?
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Fishy
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Posted - 2010/05/01 : 12:01:37
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
Aren't women forced to wear them in some places in the middle east? Oh that's already been mentioned, nevermind.
We're talking about belgium and rest of the world here, not the middle east. At least, I was.
@ Fishy: whole bible is the word of God, written by man. That goes for both NT and OT. The way the thinking goes is if God is omnipotent, he can certainly control what gets written down by a mere human, so that it says what he wants it to. OT was mainly written by prophets and others, NT by apostles (with some exceptions but there was a criteria).
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]Originally posted by atomsk:
It wasnt god who wrote any of it, it was his disciples, and random people who wrote it, people who thought god was talking to, then hundreds of years later they found the books of the "other people" and made the new king james version, only the old testament was made by the disciples..... Well afaik lol
how about next time you post on the subject, you get a clue first?
Yea :)
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Posted - 2010/05/01 : 14:01:12
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I'm pretty sure the bible in all cases is meant to be written by disciples, but what does it matter who wrote it, the teachers still come from a god either way regardless of who wrote them (yes jesus isn't got but he's the son of god so that's close enough).
On bible you can just skip stuff and its considered to be more like metaphors then literal rules. On quran, its supposed to be the literal words of god, and should be taken literally. Now if you want to brainwash a teen girl to blow herself up on a market place, which religion gives a better chance in succeeding? If you want to kill your sister because she dated a non-believer, which religion leaves you with a better conscience?
I mean i like to think that most people despite nationality or religions are good folk. some cultures have different ways etc, but islamic countries dont just have that, they conflict with so many things i consider fundamental rights and liberties. They have every right to have whatever type of country they want. But when it comes to my country, i have every right to oppose all things i think will hurt my country.
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Fishy
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Posted - 2010/05/01 : 14:19:25
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I'm pretty sure the bible in all cases is meant to be written by disciples, but what does it matter who wrote it, the teachers still come from a god either way regardless of who wrote them (yes jesus isn't got but he's the son of god so that's close enough).
On bible you can just skip stuff and its considered to be more like metaphors then literal rules. On quran, its supposed to be the literal words of god, and should be taken literally. Now if you want to brainwash a teen girl to blow herself up on a market place, which religion gives a better chance in succeeding? If you want to kill your sister because she dated a non-believer, which religion leaves you with a better conscience?
I mean i like to think that most people despite nationality or religions are good folk. some cultures have different ways etc, but islamic countries dont just have that, they conflict with so many things i consider fundamental rights and liberties. They have every right to have whatever type of country they want. But when it comes to my country, i have every right to oppose all things i think will hurt my country.
Well alot of the verses in the old testament is actual rules that cant be considered metaphors, read the Leviticus
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Posted - 2010/05/01 : 21:01:26
Belgium has an imprinted racism within its society, and Belgians are completely oblivious to it. The only reason I can see it is because I'm English and have been brought up in a very open-minded environment.
My girlfriend, who is Belgian, is dead scared of the area I live in, and tries to get me to go to her place rather than come to mine. Yet nothing has ever happened to me, her or anyone she knows within the town of Schaerbeek. Yet she totally denies it having anything to do with the Moroccan community in my neighborhood.
The reason for her disliking of Schaerbeek, as she tells me, is to do with her parents and other Belgians in her town (Braine-l'Alleud, medium sized bourgeois town on the outskirts of Brussels) having repeated to her how bad Schaerbeek is.
Almost every kid in my school who is not Moroccan hates the muslim community.
The only reason I can find for Belgians wanting to ban the Burka and Niqab is the racism that they all seem to obliviously harbour.
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Posted - 2010/05/02 : 03:33:47
What is the crime rate in your town compared with the rest of brussels? Or a better guide, the unemployment rate?
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