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raindancerob
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 Posted - 2010/12/05 : 01:28:17
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
dont think anyone said it was hardcore defining feature, but it is certainly a good place to start
course its a feature. If hardcore was any slower it'd be hard dance or something.
why would it ? iv got some hardcore tunes that are 120 BPM & some that are 200+ BPM (& no they aint house or gabber tunes). im not saying that most hardcore isint around the same BPM, im just saying that things dont always confirm to the same formula & that you cant define a style of music just from its BPM.
I think your wrong, but I cant be assed to explain myself.
Wouldnt mind knowing about what hardcore tracks are 120 tho
their some old breakbeat hardcore tunes mate.
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 01:29:18
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i dont think pitch has much influence :P
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 01:30:57
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Considering my definition of hardcore (which is wrong according to most people): Any song with 4/4 beat and 170+ BPM. I believe it's hardcore.
If it isn't 4/4 beat, then it's either DnB or Breakbeat Hardcore.
If it's heavily based on another style, or pretty much just that genre sped up to hardcore speeds, then just add -core to the genre name (trancecore, Housecore, hardstylecore, etc.).
That's how I've simplified it. And it's probably wrong.
And if Hardstylescapecore becomes a genre I want to be credited as the person who came up with the name.
again 4/4 beat doesnt mean its hardcore all of The Prodigy's early tunes were hardcore but werent 4/4 things evolve & change.
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 06:46:29
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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Originally posted by z121231211:
Considering my definition of hardcore (which is wrong according to most people): Any song with 4/4 beat and 170+ BPM. I believe it's hardcore.
If it isn't 4/4 beat, then it's either DnB or Breakbeat Hardcore.
If it's heavily based on another style, or pretty much just that genre sped up to hardcore speeds, then just add -core to the genre name (trancecore, Housecore, hardstylecore, etc.).
That's how I've simplified it. And it's probably wrong.
And if Hardstylescapecore becomes a genre I want to be credited as the person who came up with the name.
again 4/4 beat doesnt mean its hardcore all of The Prodigy's early tunes were hardcore but werent 4/4 things evolve & change.
Were they Breakbeat Hardcore? 
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 09:44:23
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Originally posted by z121231211:
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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Originally posted by z121231211:
Considering my definition of hardcore (which is wrong according to most people): Any song with 4/4 beat and 170+ BPM. I believe it's hardcore.
If it isn't 4/4 beat, then it's either DnB or Breakbeat Hardcore.
If it's heavily based on another style, or pretty much just that genre sped up to hardcore speeds, then just add -core to the genre name (trancecore, Housecore, hardstylecore, etc.).
That's how I've simplified it. And it's probably wrong.
And if Hardstylescapecore becomes a genre I want to be credited as the person who came up with the name.
again 4/4 beat doesnt mean its hardcore all of The Prodigy's early tunes were hardcore but werent 4/4 things evolve & change.
Were they Breakbeat Hardcore?
z12, its pointless, even though you already explained what you meant, he missed it (absolutely no offence rob! you do seem to skip over what people say though! ;))
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 10:36:00
generally speaking, if i heard something 4/4 and 170+bpm, I'd assume its hardcore
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raindancerob
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 12:07:21
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
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Originally posted by z121231211:
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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Originally posted by z121231211:
Considering my definition of hardcore (which is wrong according to most people): Any song with 4/4 beat and 170+ BPM. I believe it's hardcore.
If it isn't 4/4 beat, then it's either DnB or Breakbeat Hardcore.
If it's heavily based on another style, or pretty much just that genre sped up to hardcore speeds, then just add -core to the genre name (trancecore, Housecore, hardstylecore, etc.).
That's how I've simplified it. And it's probably wrong.
And if Hardstylescapecore becomes a genre I want to be credited as the person who came up with the name.
again 4/4 beat doesnt mean its hardcore all of The Prodigy's early tunes were hardcore but werent 4/4 things evolve & change.
Were they Breakbeat Hardcore?
z12, its pointless, even though you already explained what you meant, he missed it (absolutely no offence rob! you do seem to skip over what people say though! ;))
not at all mate i was just pointing out that hardcore was originally breakbeat not 4/4 which came later.
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 14:55:55
just because they call it hardcore doesnt mean its hardcore :P
historically speaking hardcore came from jungle, but f*ck history :P
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 15:09:50
actually it didnt it came from acid & chicago house, when the jungle scene came along it split from hardcore as many hardcore heads found it too dark.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 16:31:45
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z12, its pointless, even though you already explained what you meant, he missed it (absolutely no offence rob! you do seem to skip over what people say though! ;))
not at all mate i was just pointing out that hardcore was originally breakbeat not 4/4 which came later.
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you missed what he was saying completely then lol.
also technically 4/4 is a time signature most breakbeat is also written in 4/4 if you want to be perdantic, most dance music is to be honest :P
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 16:37:58
Yeah i always find it amusing when people say that as if all breakbeat isn't 4x4 :P Only genre that isn't (that's popular) is Dubstep.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 16:38:02
my mate wants me to do a hardcore track in triads. is that possible?
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 18:09:45
do you mean triplets? lol
also - the hard bit there would be for you to come up with a hardcore track olly ;)
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 18:47:01
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do you mean triplets? lol
also - the hard bit there would be for you to come up with a hardcore track olly ;)
triplets k
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Posted - 2010/12/05 : 18:52:10
It's been done lots already. Sounds absolutely shocking.
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