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google will tell you to use it when cleaning vinyl http://coloredvinylrecords.com/blog/how-to-clean-vinyl-records/

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I came back to revive this meme. Hixxy has been promising Raver Baby digitals for at least as long as I've been in the scene and probably pushing 15 years now. It really is quite incredible how ****ing lazy he is. I mean, I get it, RB digitals aren't going to make enough money to make it worthwhile these days (as opposed to when he first announced them and about 7 years afterwards) but if you make a promise that many times over that many years, I think you should keep it.

The hard drive excuse is just another Pendulum "Ransom" situation: "**** you for liking my old stuff, you're a moron and you're not getting shit, but I'm not about to alienate 50% of my fanbase by being blunt so, uh, my hard drive failed.. That's something that happens, right? And artists totally don't make multiple backups of things that mean a lot to them, right? And also nobody else had the digital promos somehow and I didn't even produce most of the tracks so I shouldn't even have the master copy in the first place, uhhh, right guys?". Yeah, right. I have six.copies of all of my tunes and they're garbo compared to everything Hixxy's ever released (until circa 2012 anyway).

Fortunately, between Hixxy's half-assed effort with that HTID label and a bunch of leaked promos, probably more than >50% of RB digitals are out there somewhere. Unfortunately, the scene has contracted to the point where there's no obvious place for people who have those digitals and promos to share them. In this case, piracy seems totally justified: not only does Hixxy have seemingly no intent to ever make money on those tunes again, but there's a conservationist angle at play too because apparently those tunes are in dire existential straits, at risk of disappearing from the world completely and permanently at the whim of capricious modern tech.

I'm pretty sure I have almost everything on RB that was ever made available digitally (and some promos that weren't) but there's no way for me to take that further here, even if utilitarianism demands it.

Btw, hi, old friends. Hope you're all well. I'm not. Xx


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Samination
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Posted - 2020/12/14 :  15:42:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
Yea, the harddrive fail didnt happen when he first promised the "mp3's were done and waiting to be uploaded" back in 2005.

Hi, and sad you're still feeling unwell :(

But I'd for a proper digital copy of Music Makers


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Edited by - Samination on 2020/12/14 15:44:25
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Posted - 2020/12/14 :  16:06:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Samination:
Yea, the harddrive fail didnt happen when he first promised the "mp3's were done and waiting to be uploaded" back in 2005.

Hi, and sad you're still feeling unwell :(

But I'd for a proper digital copy of Music Makers


Hello mate! Glad to see you're still around. Hope you're good!

Was it you who uploaded a bunch of B-Trax stuff on YT? You really helped me.out there: I bought the whole label on vinyl but just couldn't for the life of me get a setup for ripping that sounded even halfway decent. I still have those vinyls because they're pretty hard to shift. Wouldn't mind an upgrade on YT quality!

So it was 2005 he first started talking about it then? I was on those old HTID forums back in the day and I remember there was plenty of discussion about the digis back in like 2009 or whatever. My hardcore HDD is very poorly indexed and takes forever to search but I'll see if I somehow ended up with digital quality "Music Maker". It's surprising even to me how much RB I managed to get!


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Edited by - Elliott on 2020/12/14 16:14:25
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I just realised that with stuff that old it can be quite hard to tell whether something is a vinyl rip or not. Maybe my ears are just not accustomed to the pre-2005 stuff because it wasn't my favourite but I reckon I could A/B vinyl rips from 2008 with >95% accuracy.

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Edited by - Elliott on 2020/12/14 16:11:03
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Posted - 2020/12/14 :  18:19:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
Yes, I uploaded the whole (released) B-trax backcat on youtube, and a few Cover Up.

Not even UFO have the Music Makers digitally, but then the guy had a harddrive crash too (I heard about this far, far before I ever heard that Hixxy had the same problem)


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Edited by - Samination on 2020/12/14 18:21:24
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Posted - 2020/12/16 :  10:09:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Archefluxx's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Yes, I uploaded the whole (released) B-trax backcat on youtube, and a few Cover Up.

Not even UFO have the Music Makers digitally, but then the guy had a harddrive crash too (I heard about this far, far before I ever heard that Hixxy had the same problem)



UFO has been trying very hard to digitise his music, but it would suck if some was lost to a Hard drive crash.

Mr UFO, if you're reading this, try software called Recuva.

KFA got Saiyan in who has done a great job in modernising the label and pushing it forward. Hixxy needs someone to do it on his behalf too.


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I would love to see this happen as there are so many great tunes. I own a load of the vinyl, but would love to have a full digital copy of this:

https://www.discogs.com/Hixxy-Styles-Hixxy-Styles-EP/release/720067

4 wicked tracks on this EP. I got it new back when it was released from IMO records i think


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Posted - 2020/12/16 :  15:53:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Archefluxx:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Yes, I uploaded the whole (released) B-trax backcat on youtube, and a few Cover Up.

Not even UFO have the Music Makers digitally, but then the guy had a harddrive crash too (I heard about this far, far before I ever heard that Hixxy had the same problem)



UFO has been trying very hard to digitise his music, but it would suck if some was lost to a Hard drive crash.

Mr UFO, if you're reading this, try software called Recuva.

KFA got Saiyan in who has done a great job in modernising the label and pushing it forward. Hixxy needs someone to do it on his behalf too.



Recuva doesn't help much if the harddrive is failing. Recuva is mostly made for accidentally deleted files, and if another file has already started popping up where the old files were, it's a dead end.


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Posted - 2020/12/16 :  15:55:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alex Threat:
I would love to see this happen as there are so many great tunes. I own a load of the vinyl, but would love to have a full digital copy of this:

https://www.discogs.com/Hixxy-Styles-Hixxy-Styles-EP/release/720067

4 wicked tracks on this EP. I got it new back when it was released from IMO records i think



Tantric already had a digital release


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Posted - 2020/12/16 :  15:59:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Alex Threat's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Alex Threat:
I would love to see this happen as there are so many great tunes. I own a load of the vinyl, but would love to have a full digital copy of this:

https://www.discogs.com/Hixxy-Styles-Hixxy-Styles-EP/release/720067

4 wicked tracks on this EP. I got it new back when it was released from IMO records i think



Tantric already had a digital release



Yeah, I've got it. Shame it was only the last few vinyl releases (which weren't very good quality) that managed to make it out in a digital format


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Posted - 2020/12/16 :  18:50:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit tenfold234's homepage  Reply with quote
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I came back to revive this meme. Hixxy has been promising Raver Baby digitals for at least as long as I've been in the scene and probably pushing 15 years now. It really is quite incredible how ****ing lazy he is. I mean, I get it, RB digitals aren't going to make enough money to make it worthwhile these days (as opposed to when he first announced them and about 7 years afterwards) but if you make a promise that many times over that many years, I think you should keep it.

The hard drive excuse is just another Pendulum "Ransom" situation: "**** you for liking my old stuff, you're a moron and you're not getting shit, but I'm not about to alienate 50% of my fanbase by being blunt so, uh, my hard drive failed.. That's something that happens, right? And artists totally don't make multiple backups of things that mean a lot to them, right? And also nobody else had the digital promos somehow and I didn't even produce most of the tracks so I shouldn't even have the master copy in the first place, uhhh, right guys?". Yeah, right. I have six.copies of all of my tunes and they're garbo compared to everything Hixxy's ever released (until circa 2012 anyway).

Fortunately, between Hixxy's half-assed effort with that HTID label and a bunch of leaked promos, probably more than >50% of RB digitals are out there somewhere. Unfortunately, the scene has contracted to the point where there's no obvious place for people who have those digitals and promos to share them. In this case, piracy seems totally justified: not only does Hixxy have seemingly no intent to ever make money on those tunes again, but there's a conservationist angle at play too because apparently those tunes are in dire existential straits, at risk of disappearing from the world completely and permanently at the whim of capricious modern tech.

I'm pretty sure I have almost everything on RB that was ever made available digitally (and some promos that weren't) but there's no way for me to take that further here, even if utilitarianism demands it.

Btw, hi, old friends. Hope you're all well. I'm not. Xx


Yeah Ive never bought into the "hard drive" crash excuse much. I have a hard time believing that one of the biggest labels of the time did not have multiple copies of masters given out on CD to a multitude of DJ's out there. I mean yes we heard about Hixxy and UFO HD crashes but Raverbaby had Styles, Breeze, Dowster, Uprise, Re-con to name a few. And that doesn't include the list of non-RB artists that more than likely got promos like Scott Brown, Sy, Unknown, Brisk, Ham, Gammer, Dougal and so on and so on. So yeah its up to Hixxy to decide how the music gets officially released, but don't tell me that he had the only copies in existance of these tunes.

Also a crack at remastering Vinyl would not be a bad idea either. If the digital masters are indeed lost to time.

And this could be for any label, not just Raverbaby.


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Some of the times I've seen the hard disk crash referred to has been to do with the parts of the tracks that'd be needed for remixes, e.g. original vocals etc. Entirely believable that those might be missing. I'd have thought that there'd be some promo CD-Rs kicking around with digital versions of most of the tracks on somewhere surely.

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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
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Originally posted by Samination:
Yes, I uploaded the whole (released) B-trax backcat on youtube, and a few Cover Up.

Not even UFO have the Music Makers digitally, but then the guy had a harddrive crash too (I heard about this far, far before I ever heard that Hixxy had the same problem)



UFO has been trying very hard to digitise his music, but it would suck if some was lost to a Hard drive crash.

Mr UFO, if you're reading this, try software called Recuva.

KFA got Saiyan in who has done a great job in modernising the label and pushing it forward. Hixxy needs someone to do it on his behalf too.



Recuva doesn't help much if the harddrive is failing. Recuva is mostly made for accidentally deleted files, and if another file has already started popping up where the old files were, it's a dead end.



It's helped me save files from healthy sections of a drive if other partitions are preventing regular access.



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Posted - 2020/12/17 :  17:27:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Archefluxx:
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Yes, I uploaded the whole (released) B-trax backcat on youtube, and a few Cover Up.

Not even UFO have the Music Makers digitally, but then the guy had a harddrive crash too (I heard about this far, far before I ever heard that Hixxy had the same problem)



UFO has been trying very hard to digitise his music, but it would suck if some was lost to a Hard drive crash.

Mr UFO, if you're reading this, try software called Recuva.

KFA got Saiyan in who has done a great job in modernising the label and pushing it forward. Hixxy needs someone to do it on his behalf too.



Recuva doesn't help much if the harddrive is failing. Recuva is mostly made for accidentally deleted files, and if another file has already started popping up where the old files were, it's a dead end.



It's helped me save files from healthy sections of a drive if other partitions are preventing regular access.





Sadly, I never had that luck :(

Unreadable disks = no way recuva can access them


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