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djchexmixer
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United States
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 Posted - 2014/01/09 : 18:10:22
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Originally posted by DJRTIK:
Too devoted to my hardcore lol
Heeeck yea! 
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ConnerIntenzifi
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 18:16:26
Where are you from?
Start getting out to local hardcore nights or where your willing to travel too & dish out demo's to the promoters, being a promoter I prefer giving out set's to guy's who actually make the effort to attend rather than ones who just fire me a link online.
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maddkid53
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United States
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 18:22:47
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Originally posted by Samination:
But to be honest, as long as you can get another job, keep on doing the music stuff for a hobby. Unless you can start producing chart hits a la Swedish House Mafia, you wont gain much
I'd say theres nothing wrong with having "getting a track signed" as a goal. One of my goals is to get a track signed to Justice, eventually. Im not looking for monetary gain, more just to contribute and be more than just a listener/DJ in the scene.
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Elliott
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 18:24:03
Copyright issues? It's generally held that buying the full version of a track gives you tacit approval to mix that song at parties and to release it in free mixes. That isn't legally the case but everyone understands that you wouldn't buy an unmixed track if you weren't allowed to do these things so it's widely accepted. Unless you're trying to sell your mixes or playing at large events, I highly doubt anyone in hardcore would dream of coming after you for it. I would say go for it.
Anyway, yeah, just pick up some CD packs and you'll hear big name producers trainwrecking on a regular basis. Being a good, popular producer basically guarantees you the frequent opportunity to trainwreck in front of a large audience for amounts of money that are, frankly, exorbitant relative to the skill on display. That's the "easy" way in.
After that, go to clubs or events in real life and observe no-name DJs trainwrecking on a regular basis. These are the guys who are personal friends of the promoters or just good at "networking" (aka the career board game), they've also gotten where they are irrespective of talent.
Finally, go on Mixcloud or Soundcloud and scope out some hardcore DJs with hundreds (or even thousands) of followers and listen to some of them trainwrecking on a regular basis. This group are good at promoting themselves and putting themselves out there.
I'm not saying that getting in via any of these channels and being a good DJ are mutually exclusive, of course they're not. I'm just making a point about how irrelevant skill actually is. It's almost coincidental amongst DJs who have "made it".
I don't envy what you're trying to do. For me personally, the skills of networking and self-promotion utterly elude me and I couldn't begin to imagine trying to make a career out of mixing hardcore without focusing on production to back it up. Fortunately, I already have plans for my future that don't involve music so that's complete hypothetical. :P
Anyway, long story short, it's an incredibly saturated market in every genre and very few people will ever rise to the echelons of their chosen genre purely for DJing at this point. It *is* frustrating to observe that even though there is no shortage of great DJs, they aren't well represented in the set of DJs that can be considered "successful".
Good luck to you, of course, but I think a little bit of expectation management might help you. As you become better at mixing, prepare to feel somewhat miffed when you see DJs you regard as mediocre getting booked to play events or becoming much more popular than you on Soundcloud, Mixcloud etc and don't be surprised if you feel permanently underappreciated. Something I learned a while ago was that if you're doing it (be it mixing or producing) for the right reason, you won't be able to stop even if your existence is never acknowledged. :)
Anyway, now I've said my piece: EVERYONE FOLLOW ME ON SOUNDCLOUD FOR FREE COOKIES!!!*
*browser cookies
EDIT: wow, a lot has changed in this thread since I started writing! sorry!
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maddkid53
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United States
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 18:24:19
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Originally posted by DJRTIK:
hi guys, what's the best possible way to get noticed by people and possibly get signed to a record label or to play at a venue?
1. Spend a lot of time getting good at producing quality stuff.
2. Be friends with people who run labels
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DJRTIK
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United Kingdom
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Joined: Jan, 2014
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 18:37:02
yeah for some reason it wont let me upload my mix's due to copyright, thats why i use mixcloud like i say i have brought the cd's and mp3's but still no joy. people have mentioned to me before about asking the artists permission and how long it that going to take?? ages
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DJRTIK
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 18:38:09
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Originally posted by ConnerIntenzifi:
Where are you from?
Start getting out to local hardcore nights or where your willing to travel too & dish out demo's to the promoters, being a promoter I prefer giving out set's to guy's who actually make the effort to attend rather than ones who just fire me a link online.
west midlands m8
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Darts
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 18:49:43
promoting yourself online is important, but it's more important to start laying down foundations and building relationships with people at local (or even not so local) events. if you know the right people you don't even have to be that good! 
one thing I've learned though is that if people are in a position to give you something, it's very rare that they'll do it for nothing, so make sure you've got something to give them in return - even if it's just turning up to their event with your mates and busying up their dancefloor a bit that's a good start.
good luck!
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 19:02:52
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Originally posted by DJRTIK:
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Originally posted by ConnerIntenzifi:
Where are you from?
Start getting out to local hardcore nights or where your willing to travel too & dish out demo's to the promoters, being a promoter I prefer giving out set's to guy's who actually make the effort to attend rather than ones who just fire me a link online.
west midlands m8
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Thumpa
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 19:48:41
When I started trying to get gigs I went to every rave and gave CDs to people and badgered promoters at their own events, I wouldn't have a ****ing clue how to get bookings now if I was just starting out, every man and his dog is a DJ now with instant access to tracks...its not like the old days where getting gigs was all about having a record collection that would make a grown man weep...its what you can do, who you know, I dunno.
Good luck! I accept demos for my label but unfortunately 85% of the stuff people send me is absolute tripe, but I will always listen to stuff and give my (blunt) feedback.
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Samination
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 21:09:31
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Originally posted by Thumpa:
When I started trying to get gigs I went to every rave and gave CDs to people and badgered promoters at their own events, I wouldn't have a ****ing clue how to get bookings now if I was just starting out, every man and his dog is a DJ now with instant access to tracks...its not like the old days where getting gigs was all about having a record collection that would make a grown man weep...its what you can do, who you know, I dunno.
Good luck! I accept demos for my label but unfortunately 85% of the stuff people send me is absolute tripe, but I will always listen to stuff and give my (blunt) feedback.
I remember claxton doing that to me,. I still got your disc mate, but havent listened :P
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DJRTIK
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Posted - 2014/01/10 : 09:07:30
west midlands m8
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Where about?
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cannock
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2014/01/10 : 10:02:42
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Originally posted by DJRTIK:
west midlands m8
Where about?
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cannock
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Haha that's cool. Down t'road from me.
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Cyrax
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Posted - 2014/01/10 : 11:44:09
make some good tracks
talk to people
support labels
show up at events
put on your own event !
be original (which is very hard to do in electronic/dance/rave music)
i actually dont really know what the best way is but as cheesy as it sounds it's all about the music !
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DJRTIK
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Posted - 2014/01/10 : 13:01:12
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by DJRTIK:
west midlands m8
Where about?
cannock
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Haha that's cool. Down t'road from me.
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no way where abouts you from?
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