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Bring Me Round To Love
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 Posted - 2017/02/15 : 21:40:26
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Originally posted by DJ Sketchy:
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Originally posted by Samination:
Sketchy, there are some things in your statements that are complete off.
First off. Fracus & Darwin aren't blodoy newcomers, and not Mob either. Klubfiller is debatable since he's also been in the "higher" scene for a bit (and not just some random HU combilation :P)
And what the **** is AATW doing with Hardcore lately? Nothing, or are they hiding something from us? like 3 Clublanc Xtreme albums or something?
Also, are you taking queues from Donald Trump something? Your album will be great? that was his mantra the whole way through his election :D
So you will have to excuse me, But color me sceptical.
No. I've known of Fracus & Darwin for years! They have certainly jumped up a few pegs in recent times though.
AATW are sat there wanting to invest. They seriously want the Hardcore scene to thrive, and are probably a bit frustrated with the present situation. They are doing the Clubland Weekender too.
My comments about my album sounding awesome are in my opinion. It's certainly different. I'm nervous for you guys to hear the finished article, as all the tracks are all directly based off my ideas.
Most original raver hated AATW, Hardcore cashing in and selling out, where did it get hardcore in the end? Hixxy, Styles and AATW and some fat scouse bloke singing other peoples tunes badly and fek loads of cash for them.
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CDJay
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 00:41:48
It's not all bad news; Stormtooper, Cube::Hard, Fracus, JAKAZiD, Darwin et al got a lifeline.. Oh, wait. Heh.
We're still here, but that platform and revenue stream was well defended 
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jordesuvi
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 08:01:24
From the perspective I have:
I've been reading around on the social medias and finding that a lot of artists have been promising "2017 is the year of happy hardcore".
Which is quite interesting. We're all aware of how prevalent Stonebank has become in recent years. Darren Styles and Gammer got their first release on Monstercat yesterday (MC were kind enough to spontaneously send me a promo of the track beforehand to release my YouTube video in conjunction with theirs).
Hardcore Heaven was released with notable success at the end of 2016, with all the preview clips on Soundcloud averaging around 15k plays. Quite impressive.
Not to mention the upcoming HU projects.
S3RL is more successful than ever.
Artists like IYF and the guys at OneSeventy seem to have established their corner of the market
And honestly, I'm getting a lot more promo's from artists lately than I used to.
From what I've gathered, it's almost like we've all finally got ourselves together and covered exactly what we're about and what we want to present.
Hardcore was undergoing somewhat of a lengthy experimental phase.
I do think that sooner or later we are set for another spike, if not at least becoming a more underlying presence in the EDM scene.
Hopefully with all this traction the genre could be on its way to something more.
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Bring Me Round To Love
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 08:43:03
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Originally posted by CDJay:
It's not all bad news; Stormtooper, Cube::Hard, Fracus, JAKAZiD, Darwin et al got a lifeline.. Oh, wait. Heh.
We're still here, but that platform and revenue stream was well defended
CDJay
Don't forget AL Storm, been banging out tunes since the 90's Love his darker hardcore, a 93 twist in the modern era, has his own sound which is rare these days.
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Bring Me Round To Love
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 08:50:15
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Originally posted by jordesuvi:
From the perspective I have:
I've been reading around on the social medias and finding that a lot of artists have been promising "2017 is the year of happy hardcore".
Which is quite interesting. We're all aware of how prevalent Stonebank has become in recent years. Darren Styles and Gammer got their first release on Monstercat yesterday (MC were kind enough to spontaneously send me a promo of the track beforehand to release my YouTube video in conjunction with theirs).
Hardcore Heaven was released with notable success at the end of 2016, with all the preview clips on Soundcloud averaging around 15k plays. Quite impressive.
Not to mention the upcoming HU projects.
S3RL is more successful than ever.
Artists like IYF and the guys at OneSeventy seem to have established their corner of the market
And honestly, I'm getting a lot more promo's from artists lately than I used to.
From what I've gathered, it's almost like we've all finally got ourselves together and covered exactly what we're about and what we want to present.
Hardcore was undergoing somewhat of a lengthy experimental phase.
I do think that sooner or later we are set for another spike, if not at least becoming a more underlying presence in the EDM scene.
Hopefully with all this traction the genre could be on it's way to something more.
Just checked out the Gammer & Styles track on Monstercat, not a fan, just sounds like they are desperately trying to hit the American market with the same old sound, it that really hardcore these days, Is Gammer really even trying, musc by numbers to suit the masses.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 09:47:28
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Originally posted by Bring Me Round To Love:
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Originally posted by jordesuvi:
From the perspective I have:
I've been reading around on the social medias and finding that a lot of artists have been promising "2017 is the year of happy hardcore".
Which is quite interesting. We're all aware of how prevalent Stonebank has become in recent years. Darren Styles and Gammer got their first release on Monstercat yesterday (MC were kind enough to spontaneously send me a promo of the track beforehand to release my YouTube video in conjunction with theirs).
Hardcore Heaven was released with notable success at the end of 2016, with all the preview clips on Soundcloud averaging around 15k plays. Quite impressive.
Not to mention the upcoming HU projects.
S3RL is more successful than ever.
Artists like IYF and the guys at OneSeventy seem to have established their corner of the market
And honestly, I'm getting a lot more promo's from artists lately than I used to.
From what I've gathered, it's almost like we've all finally got ourselves together and covered exactly what we're about and what we want to present.
Hardcore was undergoing somewhat of a lengthy experimental phase.
I do think that sooner or later we are set for another spike, if not at least becoming a more underlying presence in the EDM scene.
Hopefully with all this traction the genre could be on it's way to something more.
Just checked out the Gammer & Styles track on Monstercat, not a fan, just sounds like they are desperately trying to hit the American market with the same old sound, it that really hardcore these days, Is Gammer really even trying, musc by numbers to suit the masses.
I don't think the nature of the track has much relevance. The fact they're using Monstercat to reach out to new audiences could breath new life into Hardcore. I, personally, hope it does. I wish more leading Hardcore brands were as willing to network with the music community and sow some seeds.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 10:03:39
2015 will be Hardcore's year.....
2016 will be Hardcore's year.....
2017 will be Hardcore's year....
Repeat to fade......
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 10:15:39
"The fact they're using Monstercat to reach out to new audiences could breath new life into Hardcore"
Monstercat have had hardcore before, though, right? It's not like this is something new.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 10:39:12
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Originally posted by Triquatra:
"The fact they're using Monstercat to reach out to new audiences could breath new life into Hardcore"
Monstercat have had hardcore before, though, right? It's not like this is something new.
You're right, but never with artists that listeners can research and discover so much past music for.
Where there was previously Stonebank, there were hardly any other Stonebank tracks to hear. When you have Darren Styles and Gammer, you have 20 years worth of Hardcore tracks, all the Bonkers', all the Clubland, all the history available at the end of a Google search. It is important
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Elipton
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 10:55:50
I want to point out - and I've been saying this for SO long - that DJ-friendly 7-minute tracks with mixable intro's and outro's aren't what people want to hear. Sell them, for sure, but when it comes to releasing on Soundcloud, Spotify, Youtube and other stream services, MAKE THEM RADIO MIXES.
It's a trick Hardcore has been missing for 8 or 9 years, and it's a massive contributor. I feel as though it's a big contributor to Hardcore's inward-looking trend. It's been too oriented to events and labels simply haven't been selling their music FOR the casual listener.
The Monstercat release has got it right. It's a track for the listeners. It should be a benchmark for how Hardcore is released.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 11:09:34
well, I'm convinced, 2017 is hardcores' year for sure.
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 12:16:41
Everyone already forgot how well it went they tried to make drumstep hardcore the new it in Hardcore?
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 12:26:32
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Originally posted by Elipton:
I want to point out - and I've been saying this for SO long - that DJ-friendly 7-minute tracks with mixable intro's and outro's aren't what people want to hear. Sell them, for sure, but when it comes to releasing on Soundcloud, Spotify, Youtube and other stream services, MAKE THEM RADIO MIXES.
Yeah, using Spotify and trying to get my old work colleagues to see that hardcore isn't necessarily what they thought was a bit of a nightmare when there was a minute and a half intro of just drums. There were some seriously good tracks I knew they would appreciate as they were kinda similar to the stuff they played, just, well, faster.
That said - if I'm buying tracks for my own use - I WANT a full intro and outro. Not 16 bars of empty drums then the breakdown - a proper intro.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 12:39:34
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by Elipton:
I want to point out - and I've been saying this for SO long - that DJ-friendly 7-minute tracks with mixable intro's and outro's aren't what people want to hear. Sell them, for sure, but when it comes to releasing on Soundcloud, Spotify, Youtube and other stream services, MAKE THEM RADIO MIXES.
Yeah, using Spotify and trying to get my old work colleagues to see that hardcore isn't necessarily what they thought was a bit of a nightmare when there was a minute and a half intro of just drums. There were some seriously good tracks I knew they would appreciate as they were kinda similar to the stuff they played, just, well, faster.
That said - if I'm buying tracks for my own use - I WANT a full intro and outro. Not 16 bars of empty drums then the breakdown - a proper intro.
This 100%
There have been EP's released with both, and that's how it should be. We have to appreciate that Hardcore is one of those genres where there is a massive purist following wanting full-lenth mixable tracks, but there needs to be more casuals who can add tracks to playlists or their phone and enjoy the part of the track that counts.
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Vladel
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Posted - 2017/02/16 : 21:29:12
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Originally posted by Triquatra:
well, I'm convinced, 2017 is hardcores' year for sure.
Not the way it's going. I've been through trackitdown & Juno, it's just a total pile of shit this year so far.
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