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trippnface
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Posted - 2017/03/09 :  18:25:20  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by trippnface:
I doubt this appeals to og freeform heads; but this is kill kill. i said it before and will say it again. psytrance is getting massive. most popular genre right now in the USA; not kidding. people are starting to crave high energy beats with trippy lyrics; psychedically inclined music. everyone wants to be " spiritual" . the festie scene rules supreme. this is the age of psytrance. cyrax and transend nailed it.

https://soundcloud.com/dj-cyrax/substanced-afterlife-penance-transcend-cyrax-remix-fc-finrg

watch 1: 45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bk8T4J6zc4

unheard of. never ever happened before. insomniac is dropping ther mainstream bs for wicked underground.


hope someone is listening. they could easily accomplish what Gammer failed miserably to do; and appeal to a much wider base of fans; and actually be successfull.



https://soundcloud.com/dj-cyrax/substanced-afterlife-penance-transcend-cyrax-remix-fc-finrg


EDC added a full 3 day trance/psy stage . first time a new stage in YEARS?. they are not dumb. trap is already failing; people are bored of it. even seen common trance producers hopping board with psy tracks.

https://soundcloud.com/jordansuckley/john-oo-fleming-dawn-over-the-amazon-jordan-suckley-remix



But Psy-trance already had pretty firm roots as far as popularity goes, artists like Juno Reactor, Astrix, Ace Ventura, and Liquid Soul have been playing to huge festivals such as Boom, Freedom, Burning Mountain and even Tomorowland for over the last decade.

All i'm saying is I don't think comparing Psy trance to Hardcore is fair given its initial popularity. Perhaps a better comparison is something like Drum and Bass, Garage or Bassline.

Edit: Also Trance artists like Jordan Suckley aren't just hopping on the bandwagon. He's been playing Psy-Trance since i first saw him back in 2011. Guys like Aly & Fila also play the odd track here and there and have done so for a while. Trance is one of those great genres where the Dj's actually experiment a little between playing out some of the tracks from the many sub-genres within the scene, unlike hardcore.





psytrance is just now getting big in the USA; no joke. it has literally never been featured at a mainstream american event ever period; before this last year. just comparing sounds and what people are getting into; i easily see the bridge gapped between that cyrax style track and the psytrance scene. seriously so similiar.

I think it makes 100% more sense than trying to make hardcore sound like mainstram EDM; the intuitive capabilities of some of the djs in the hardcore scene is downright pathetic imo. they should have been seeing psy coming if anything; and taking it a darker harder direction; than mixing it with trap and big room. that was probably the dumbest thing the hardcore scene ever did. certainly while I have been into it.

and true; suckely and some of those dudes have been messing around for awhile; but now they are all out to play; they would never have dreamed of dropping psy style tracks before this new revolution occurred; atleast not in USA


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Samination
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Posted - 2017/03/10 :  06:23:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
I wish Cyrax would be more like Psykovsky. More raw energy instead of trancy psytrance :P

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Posted - 2017/03/10 :  09:29:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Cyrax's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Samination:
I wish Cyrax would be more like Psykovsky. More raw energy instead of trancy psytrance :P



Post a raw energy reference track for me x



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Samination
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Posted - 2017/03/10 :  12:19:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
does my fart count? :P

Technically, it's my brother who listens to artist like psykovsky or Astrix, and since I dont have any speakers near me (high db workplace so i cant even use my phone), so i will just throw a link up and hope it plays what i described.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqXPV6LFIyk


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Posted - 2017/03/10 :  14:55:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Cyrax's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Samination:
does my fart count? :P

Technically, it's my brother who listens to artist like psykovsky or Astrix, and since I dont have any speakers near me (high db workplace so i cant even use my phone), so i will just throw a link up and hope it plays what i described.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqXPV6LFIyk



will listen when I'm home :)



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Samination
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Posted - 2017/03/10 :  15:11:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
from what I remember of Psykovsky, if you like finrg by artists like Epyx & Cyrez, but just more progressive(?) and faster, then it should bu up that alley

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Rodz90
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Posted - 2017/03/10 :  19:21:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Rodz90's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by trippnface:

psytrance is just now getting big in the USA; no joke. it has literally never been featured at a mainstream american event ever period; before this last year.




I don't think that's right, Astrix has been booked at EDC Las Vegas for the last two years running. I guess it's never been given it's own stage though, which is pretty great. But again, Psy trance has been able to stand on it's own two legs for a long time. Even if there was zero interest from America, it would still be a much bigger music genre then Hardcore ever has been.

I feel like you've just discovered Psy-trance, and as such are completely over hyping certain things in your own mind. Suckley, Aly & Fila, Ben Nicky, Bryan Kearney to name a few would all have dropped Psy Trance before this "Revolution", and here is proof - https://soundcloud.com/alyandfila/aly-fila-b2b-john-ocallaghan-2?in=alyandfila/sets/sets at 4 mins in, Coming Soon - Become One.



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Edited by - Rodz90 on 2017/03/10 19:23:16
Advather
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Posted - 2017/03/10 :  19:39:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Advather's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by DjZelous:
@32:20 he dropped some gammer


Im too lazy to find the krewella one


After hearing that set, I'm glad I've never bothered to go to any of these big events. Maybe other sets are better?


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Posted - 2017/03/11 :  06:35:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DjZelous's homepage  Reply with quote
I'm Dying to go to ultra! but still live at home so parents dont let me.
The carnage set was pretty meh, lots of hype and mic yelling but lots of shit tunes. The Jack U, Hardwell, Armin van Buuren and Dash Berlin Sets were great in my opinion.


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Cyrax
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Posted - 2017/03/13 :  09:37:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Cyrax's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Samination:
from what I remember of Psykovsky, if you like finrg by artists like Epyx & Cyrez, but just more progressive(?) and faster, then it should bu up that alley



Remixing some Lost Soul in that style over the next few weeks.



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