Cyrax Senior Member
United Kingdom
434 posts Joined: May, 2012
Posted - 2017/02/20 : 09:58:08
I have no idea what's going on with Freeform this year, what I do know is that Transcend is releasing another artist album, hopefully Spring 2017 and Substanced is also finalizing one.
Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,088 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2017/02/20 : 15:30:30
I keep meaning to "start up" a free sister label to "The world of cuttlefish/bee-trax" and start farting out old-skool freeform.
Thumpa Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,351 posts Joined: Feb, 2009
Posted - 2017/03/07 : 12:56:11
The problem with freeform is there aren't enough strong personalities to push it, apart from a few good mates its a load of geeks that don't go to a lot of raves so they don't know any promoters or are too terrified to speak to anyone at raves. I knew everyone, promoters, ravers, producers, MCs etc and I put all my effort into making everyone aware of what's going on in freeform. There isn't that extrovert people-person to be at the forefront shouting about it every 5 mins. There's some skilled producers in freeform but you can't just sit and make tunes, you need to be out there talking about it.
Fortunately for my sanity I've removed myself from it, it's a thankless task.
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
659 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2017/03/07 : 16:24:05
I doubt this appeals to og freeform heads; but this is kill kill. i said it before and will say it again. psytrance is getting massive. most popular genre right now in the USA; not kidding. people are starting to crave high energy beats with trippy lyrics; psychedically inclined music. everyone wants to be " spiritual" . the festie scene rules supreme. this is the age of psytrance. cyrax and transend nailed it.
unheard of. never ever happened before. insomniac is dropping ther mainstream bs for wicked underground.
hope someone is listening. they could easily accomplish what Gammer failed miserably to do; and appeal to a much wider base of fans; and actually be successfull.
EDC added a full 3 day trance/psy stage . first time a new stage in YEARS?. they are not dumb. trap is already failing; people are bored of it. even seen common trance producers hopping board with psy tracks.
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Rodz90 Average Member
United Kingdom
150 posts Joined: Sep, 2012
Posted - 2017/03/07 : 20:24:08
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
I doubt this appeals to og freeform heads; but this is kill kill. i said it before and will say it again. psytrance is getting massive. most popular genre right now in the USA; not kidding. people are starting to crave high energy beats with trippy lyrics; psychedically inclined music. everyone wants to be " spiritual" . the festie scene rules supreme. this is the age of psytrance. cyrax and transend nailed it.
unheard of. never ever happened before. insomniac is dropping ther mainstream bs for wicked underground.
hope someone is listening. they could easily accomplish what Gammer failed miserably to do; and appeal to a much wider base of fans; and actually be successfull.
EDC added a full 3 day trance/psy stage . first time a new stage in YEARS?. they are not dumb. trap is already failing; people are bored of it. even seen common trance producers hopping board with psy tracks.
But Psy-trance already had pretty firm roots as far as popularity goes, artists like Juno Reactor, Astrix, Ace Ventura, and Liquid Soul have been playing to huge festivals such as Boom, Freedom, Burning Mountain and even Tomorowland for over the last decade.
All i'm saying is I don't think comparing Psy trance to Hardcore is fair given its initial popularity. Perhaps a better comparison is something like Drum and Bass, Garage or Bassline.
Edit: Also Trance artists like Jordan Suckley aren't just hopping on the bandwagon. He's been playing Psy-Trance since i first saw him back in 2011. Guys like Aly & Fila also play the odd track here and there and have done so for a while. Trance is one of those great genres where the Dj's actually experiment a little between playing out some of the tracks from the many sub-genres within the scene, unlike hardcore.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
10,215 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2017/03/08 : 05:22:31
quote:Originally posted by Rodz90:Trance is one of those great genres where the Dj's actually experiment a little between playing out some of the tracks from the many sub-genres within the scene, unlike hardcore.
Unlike Hardcore? I'm pretty sure there are as many dj's (procentage) that 'experiments' by playing similar styles/genres in they sets in both genres. I'm pretty sure even Darren Styles or Gammer have done it. Scott Brown does it all the time.
Other genre's? I'd say they are less inclined (to do?) to mix other genres into their set (or other peoples tracsk for that matter :P)
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Rodz90 Average Member
United Kingdom
150 posts Joined: Sep, 2012
Posted - 2017/03/08 : 22:33:14
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by Rodz90:Trance is one of those great genres where the Dj's actually experiment a little between playing out some of the tracks from the many sub-genres within the scene, unlike hardcore.
Unlike Hardcore? I'm pretty sure there are as many dj's (procentage) that 'experiments' by playing similar styles/genres in they sets in both genres. I'm pretty sure even Darren Styles or Gammer have done it. Scott Brown does it all the time.
Other genre's? I'd say they are less inclined (to do?) to mix other genres into their set (or other peoples tracsk for that matter :P)
What i mean more is that the Dj's play a wider spectrum of music from there music scene, as opposed to just stuff of the record label they are part of. Listen to a Darren Styles set, then listen to a Breeze set, then listen to a Hixxy set. Proceed to count the number of the same songs that were played in all three sets and it shouldn't be too dissimilar. A good example is the Ravers Reunited Black Party sets that were recorded, the top tier just played the same "big" tunes as opposed to any tracks from HU, or pretty much any other record label then TWR.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
10,215 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2017/03/09 : 05:58:03
Well that's the top tier. Even tho they are idolized, they aren't the only ones around.
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DjZelous Senior Member
United States
369 posts Joined: Oct, 2012
Posted - 2017/03/09 : 06:18:00
Well, it must be getting heard by some of the big guys in EDM, last year, Carnage dropped a gammer tune here in miami @ Ultra, and the year before that Krewella played some Breeze! i nearly shat my self :)
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
10,215 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2017/03/09 : 06:53:27
quote:Originally posted by DjZelous:
Well, it must be getting heard by some of the big guys in EDM, last year, Carnage dropped a gammer tune here in miami @ Ultra, and the year before that Krewella played some Breeze! i nearly shat my self :)
at original speed or watered down versions of the watered down hardcore tracks? :P
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arpz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
614 posts Joined: Aug, 2012
Posted - 2017/03/09 : 09:05:02
I'm not really into this whole 'EDM DJ plays hardcore tune to massive crowd' hype that seems to happen. To me it's like 'check out how zany/edgy I am by playing this at the end of a set'
I can't really see why it's a good thing (not that it's inherently bad either)
djDMS Advanced Member
United Kingdom
9,325 posts Joined: Feb, 2003
572 hardcore releases
Posted - 2017/03/09 : 12:01:35
quote:Originally posted by DjZelous:
Well, it must be getting heard by some of the big guys in EDM, last year, Carnage dropped a gammer tune here in miami @ Ultra, and the year before that Krewella played some Breeze! i nearly shat my self :)
Unless that made thousands of people think 'wow, I must find more stuff like this', it makes no difference at all.
I've heard (and played) all kinds of random tunes in sets but not once has it made anyone ask about or look for more of the same.
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