Elliott Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,137 posts Joined: May, 2012
Posted - 2012/12/07 : 22:55:03
quote:Originally posted by ponder:
As an artist, I've always taken the view that if you're willing to take the praise, you have to be prepared to accept criticism. It's part of being a writer, musician, actor, producer, singer - whatever. You're never going to appeal to everybody, so why waste time and energy on addressing those you clearly don't like, and never will like, what you do?
I've never understood this 'flame the haters' approach deployed by the so called 'top-tier' DJs in Hardcore. As someone pointed out earlier, it's as if they all have this deep seated aversion to criticism. Is it that damaging to one's ego that they feel the need to address it at every opportunity.
I can only speak from personal experience, but when I started making a name for myself back in 2000, it was an era of the discussion forum. It was before the Facebooks and Twitters of this world had taken over, and people would express their feelings and opinions on forums like this one, only back then, the likes of HHC and USH were massive, with thousands and thousands of registered users. What I learnt from that was to adopt a 'water off a ducks back' approach. Simply that you will always have your critics or 'haters' as idiots like to say. However, taking their comments personally will only ever be counter productive. Concentrate on what you do and what you enjoy, and appreciate the fans you do have and the support they give you.
Addressing a slightly wider point; discussion is essential. I get this worrying notion that many of the 'top-tier' would be happier if sites like this didn't exist - I mean, you saw that when USH went - they were loving it! Sites like this are crucial to the growth of any style of music, if we ever get to a situation where we're left with Twitter and Facebook fan-pages full of sycophants, then the music will never develop and move on, and will continue to shrink in to a ball as it has been for the past few years.
Blam! This is exactly the opinion I was trying to express, only much less eloquently.
Btw, I'm even later than the rest of you on the 34m thing -- by a few hours/days. :P
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MaidenV Senior Member
United States
288 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2012/12/08 : 00:34:40
quote:Originally posted by Elliott:
quote:Originally posted by Lilley:
quote:Originally posted by MaidenV:
"Bitch, I'm Kanye West #YOLO #SWAG" persona really.
What the **** does this mean?
I appreciated his post tbh, despite not being able to express why. Anyway, if you haven't heard Gammer's most recent studio mix, listen to the intro.
What it means is that Kanye is one of the largest figures in popularizing the idea that if you're the best in the game, you should act like it. These ideas that "you're only successful if you piss people off" and "lol haterz" all stem from 2010's hip-hop culture. "Swag" has sort of replaced "bling" as the stereotypical thing that rappers brag about having as of 2012. YOLO (You Only Live Once) is a kind of rallying cry for young teenagers who have adopted a "f*ck what you say, I'll do what I want, when I want" mentality.
Gammer is clearly a big fan of Kanye (which is fine; I myself am giving MBDTF another listen upon posting this). However, ever since mid-2011, Gammer's whole persona has changed from a lovable, slightly dorky guy who asks the crowd to make some more noise (please) to a guy who is (in popular opinion) the best of the best and is thusly "above" average people.
I also think that now more than ever, Gammer is really really really fed up with being singled out as the sole reason why "all hardcore is all shitty and dubsteppy now" when 1)he's still producing a good amount of riff-y hardcore (hell, he remixed P&M - Missing and made it not suck) and 2) I don't think he has ever said that dub/electrocore is the "future of hardcore" or "what NEEDS to be produced for hardcore to survive" or any similar garbage. He may very well just like experimenting with new sounds.
All in all, its a terrible shame that he's lashing out now because I really like a lot of his music and he still seems so much more like a normal human being who happens to make hardcore when compared to other big names who only seem to be capable of shilling themselves. I think he's a victim of pop culture where being humble is seen as being weak, in this day and age more than ever.
Lilley Advanced Member
Australia
3,740 posts Joined: Jul, 2006
Posted - 2012/12/08 : 04:00:57
quote:Originally posted by MaidenV:
"Swag" has sort of replaced "bling" as the stereotypical thing that rappers brag about having as of 2012. YOLO (You Only Live Once) is a kind of rallying cry for young teenagers who have adopted a "f*ck what you say, I'll do what I want, when I want" mentality.
Ahh, seems suitably mentally retarded.
quote:MBDTF
wtf?
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